Peyton & Brees

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zrinkill;3575879 said:
Stupid thread ....

I agree that it is stupid but at the same time i'd just like to say Tony Romo has set a higher standard of play than he has shown this season and he needs to get back to that.

But at the same time he has had a lot of chaos surrounding him and no running game too.
 

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This thread is pretty lame and like Gruden said on MNF 'you're asking a lot when you ask a QB to be perfect every game in order to win.'
Romo shouldn't have to pull a rabbit out of his -every week for the Cowboys to win a game.
 

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Teren_Kanan;3575782 said:
Before I start, Brees is Better than Romo. Not a great deal, but better. It sounds weird, but I think Brees would do better than Romo on the Saints though not by much, but I think Brees would do significantly worse than Romo if he were on the Cowboys.


Romo has had many comeback drives in his career that won games. Romo has had even MORE comeback drives that have been STOPPED by our own team. As recently as Washington last week. So many times I've seen Romo drive down the field, only to have a WR stop a route short, the offense get some asinine penalty, or the defense/special team just ruin it. The Baltimore game comes to mind, TWICE Romo drove us down the field to put us in position to win and TWICE the defense allowed 60+ yard runs for TD (Back to back mind you, each after Romo drove us for a TD).

I feel Romo is BETTER than his stats show, and his stats are stellar. Our offensive line is terrible, and has been since Bledsoe. It magically went from crap to Probowl worthy and the only thing that really changed was Romo.

It's not Romo who needs to take it to the next level, it's this entire team.

this....'nuff said
 

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jr40usa;3575502 said:
Watching these guys the last 2 nights shows what great QBs do to keep there team in every game.

Romo has a ways to go. He is good not great.

Another one of these?

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Get back to us when breese's number 1 WR is dropping passes for INTs, his line is making him run all over, there are constant penalties, his WR fumbles and his defense sucks...IN ONE GAME. :rolleyes:
 

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SDCowboy85;3576008 said:
Get back to us when breese's number 1 WR is dropping passes for INTs, his line is making him run all over, there are constant penalties, his WR fumbles and his defense sucks...IN ONE GAME. :rolleyes:

A lot of truth in this post....
 

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CATCH17;3576012 said:
A lot of truth in this post....

There's a lot of folks here that can't differentiate between a great QB on a great team and a great QB on a bad team. I guess they think QBs can somehow overturn penalties and play defense.
 

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Shhhh.......your going to wake up SDCowboys85 and hes going to be mad that your not saying Romo is a god. OOPS......too late.

Manning is head and shoulders above the rest of the league. He IS the leader if his team. He calls his own plays and knows which plays to call in each situation. Anyone who says different just hasn't watched Manning play.
Nobody can say that the Colts have more offensive talent then the Cowboys. Manning has made Garson, Collie and Gonzales what they are today when on most teams they would be nobody.

Brees and Romo are on the same level except Brees has an excellent coach in Sean Payton who is an excellent play caller unlike Garrett. He uses his players to their strengths rather then just calling plays.

We should have NEVER let Payton go.
 

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Cas2800;3576051 said:
Shhhh.......your going to wake up SDCowboys85 and hes going to be mad that your not saying Romo is a god. OOPS......too late.

Manning is head and shoulders above the rest of the league. He IS the leader if his team. He calls his own plays and knows which plays to call in each situation. Anyone who says different just hasn't watched Manning play.
Nobody can say that the Colts have more offensive talent then the Cowboys. Manning has made Garson, Collie and Gonzales what they are today when on most teams they would be nobody.

Brees and Romo are on the same level except Brees has an excellent coach in Sean Payton who is an excellent play caller unlike Garrett. He uses his players to their strengths rather then just calling plays.

We should have NEVER let Payton go.
I'm not saying Romo is god at all but at least have fair team comparisons.
 

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SDCowboy85;3576057 said:
I'm not saying Romo is god at all but at least have fair team comparisons.

So your saying the Colts and Saints offenses have more talent then the Cowboys? Please explain i want to hear this.....:rolleyes:
 

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Cas2800;3576063 said:
So your saying the Colts and Saints offenses have more talent then the Cowboys? Please explain i want to hear this.....:rolleyes:
I'm saying their teams are better and they are. I'm saying they aren't making debilitating mistakes, and they aren't. I'm saying they aren't constantly penalized...they aren't.
 

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CATCH17;3575877 said:
No doubt... But he needs to do that more through the ball game again.

He is playing good and taking what the defense gives him but i'd like to see him go back to making more plays with his feet.

Used to it seemed like every 3rd and long we had a chance because of Romo ability to buy time and find someone. I'd like to see him get back to that.

I'd also like to see more bootlegs when we get in the redzone.
He also turned the ball over alot more then because of that, and caught a ton of heat for it.
 

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The title of this thread is Peyton & Brees.

Forget the Romo/Brees discussion, I'll take either one, I'm happy with Romo, ... but it sickens me that we let Peyton go.

I can't believe we had Sean Peyton on our coaching staff and nobody noticed that he was a good coach, and would make a really good Head Coach.

Now look what we have to work with instead. :rolleyes:
 

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Teren_Kanan;3575782 said:
Before I start, Brees is Better than Romo. Not a great deal, but better. It sounds weird, but I think Brees would do better than Romo on the Saints though not by much, but I think Brees would do significantly worse than Romo if he were on the Cowboys.


Romo has had many comeback drives in his career that won games. Romo has had even MORE comeback drives that have been STOPPED by our own team. As recently as Washington last week. So many times I've seen Romo drive down the field, only to have a WR stop a route short, the offense get some asinine penalty, or the defense/special team just ruin it. The Baltimore game comes to mind, TWICE Romo drove us down the field to put us in position to win and TWICE the defense allowed 60+ yard runs for TD (Back to back mind you, each after Romo drove us for a TD).

I feel Romo is BETTER than his stats show, and his stats are stellar. Our offensive line is terrible, and has been since Bledsoe. It magically went from crap to Probowl worthy and the only thing that really changed was Romo.

It's not Romo who needs to take it to the next level, it's this entire team.
Beautiful.
 

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WV Cowboy;3576113 said:
The title of this thread is Peyton & Brees.

Forget the Romo/Brees discussion, I'll take either one, I'm happy with Romo, ... but it sickens me that we let Peyton go.

I can't believe we had Sean Peyton on our coaching staff and nobody noticed that he was a good coach, and would make a really good Head Coach.

Now look what we have to work with instead. :rolleyes:
Didn't we give Payton a raise to stay one year? We just couldn't hold him back any longer. Parcells didn't step down until after Payton had left. There was nothing Jerry could do to keep Sean Payton.
 
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JBell523;3575610 said:
Romo needs to take more shots down the field.

I like that he's made protecting the football a priority, but this offense cannot string long drives together.

We need big plays and we have the personnel to do it. Right now the formula for beating us is "bend, don't break" because we'll eventually shoot ourselves in the foot. Either via penalty or bad playcall.

This....
 

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Boyzmamacita;3576144 said:
Didn't we give Payton a raise to stay one year? We just couldn't hold him back any longer. Parcells didn't step down until after Payton had left. There was nothing Jerry could do to keep Sean Payton.

He has kept Garrett from leaving, .. either Jerry just didn't recognize Peyton's talent or didn't want him to be the head coach.
 
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WV Cowboy;3576464 said:
He has kept Garrett from leaving, .. either Jerry just didn't recognize Peyton's talent or didn't want him to be the head coach.

Dumb move regardless...
 
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