Peyton, Romo Trust Issues

[birdwells1]

First, I'll start by saying that I'm no RW fan and have been thoroughly dissapointed with his performance but if he's going to be out there Romo has got to utilize him. If Peyton can trust a rookie (Collie) and a 2nd year guy (Garcon) then I think Romo and Garrett can trust RW. Garcon and Collie had combined for 4 receptions before this year where as RW had numerous NFL receptions. I've said before that RW just didn't forget how to catch the football when he came to Dallas, it more of a confidence issue.

If Peyton would have went into this season saying "I've got two guys I can trust (Wayne and Clark) and that's who I'm going to throw to" they would've been much easier to defend. Peyton started off the year throwing to the two new guys early and often to let defense know that they were going to have to defend the whole field. He also needed to build a rappore with them and build up their confidence. Because he did this during the season it paid dividend in the post season.

It's the QB and OC job to get the ball to all recievers on the field and it's the recievers job to make plays. You can not just blatantly go away from your number 2 wr and expect to be successful in the playoffs. RW needs to regain his confidence but he can't do that without the ball being thrown his way. Romo needs to regain confidence in him but he can't do that without throwing to him.

If RW is every going to resemble the player he was in Detroit, like it or not, it begins with Romo.

 

[THUMPER]

If RW is every going to resemble the player he was in Detroit, like it or not, it begins with Romo.

Um no, it begins with Roy. If Roy wants the ball then he has to do a much better job of getting open and catching it when it comes his way. The reason Romo wasn't looking for Roy much is because he is unreliable.

 

[birdwells1]

Um no, it begins with Roy. If Roy wants the ball then he has to do a much better job of getting open and catching it when it comes his way. The reason Romo wasn't looking for Roy much is because he is unreliable.

I hear you so what you're saying is I'm not going to throw to that side of the field. That's kinda like cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'd love to be the DC in the film room getting ready to play that offense. RW play fairly good in the playoff game against Philly and I thought he warranted a few more looks in the Minnesota game but he didn't get not a 1.

 

[MONT17]

RW is not Romo friendly! There goes another one... love me some we quit!

 

[TNCowboy]

If Romo doesn't trust RW, it's warranted. He completed 60 and 70% of his passes to other receivers, but only 40something to RW.

He really needs to target him less. This is all on RW. Romo has no trouble throwing to anyone else. He doesn't have a big RW-blind spot.

RW was probably the least effective player getting significant playing time by season's end. It wouldn't even be an issue if they hadn't given up all those picks and all that $$. Were it not for that, he'd be just some jag fighting for a job next TC.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I hear you so what you're saying is I'm not going to throw to that side of the field. That's kinda like cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'd love to be the DC in the film room getting ready to play that offense. RW play fairly good in the playoff game against Philly and I thought he warranted a few more looks in the Minnesota game but he didn't get not a 1.

Dude, none of the recievers were getting looks in Minny because Romo was being hit 1.5 seconds after the snap!!!


Roy Willams was also among the league leaders in dropped passes. Maybe if he would catch the dam ball, Romo would look for him some more.

 

[birdwells1]

RW is not Romo friendly! There goes another one... love me some we quit!

huh? What?

 

[birdwells1]

Dude, none of the recievers were getting looks in Minny because Romo was being hit 1.5 seconds after the snap!!!


Roy Willams was also among the league leaders in dropped passes. Maybe if he would catch the dam ball, Romo would look for him some more.

So you subscribe to the cut off your nose to spite your face theory.

 

[quaigs]

How could you watch yesterdays game and compare Roy to those two? They were amazing, they caught everything thrown to them and were running outstanding routes , not to mention the right ones. Three things Roy does poorly.

 

[CATCH17]

Roy would be better off with someone like Favre because Romo isn't going to throw you the ball unless you are open.


You think Sidney Rice would've had the same year here in Dallas? No way.

I don't think a Plaxico Burress in his prime would do well here in Dallas either.

Its just not Romos style to put some air under a pass and let his guy make a play.

So that tells me Roy doesn't really fit in with what our QB likes.

 

[visionary]

So you subscribe to the cut off your nose to spite your face theory.

no, we subscribe to common sense

if romo throws to RW, he is not where he is expected to be, who will you blame?
you will blame romo

trust has to be earned
RW has to learn the routes, work hard to get open, earn romo's trust
this is ALL on RW as far as I am concerned

end of story

 

[birdwells1]

How could you watch yesterdays game and compare Roy to those two? They were amazing, they caught everything thrown to them and were running outstanding routes , not to mention the right ones. Three things Roy does poorly.

All I'm saying is that RW is better than 3 no catch games and 3 1 catch game that he had this year. Those stats are not indicative of the type of reciever he is. He's not an 80 catch 1300 yrd guy either but to have 6 games with 1 or less receptions is not totally on RW.

 

[birdwells1]

no, we subscribe to common sense

if romo throws to RW, he is not where he is expected to be, who will you blame?
you will blame romo

trust has to be earned
RW has to learn the routes, work hard to get open, earn romo's trust
this is ALL on RW as far as I am concerned

end of story

That's my friend is part of the reason why we'll watch the SB instead of playing in it.

What you guys don't understand is that RW will be here next year and will be starting, his contract and the trade dictates that. So what are we going to do next year when he's on he field.

 

[thechosen1n2]

Um no, it begins with Roy. If Roy wants the ball then he has to do a much better job of getting open and catching it when it comes his way. The reason Romo wasn't looking for Roy much is because he is unreliable.

Thumper I disagree. This is how Roy always got open. He has never been a huge space. Hes like Keyshawn. Keyshawn wouldnt get the ball either from romo. The two arent a good match b/c romo is no a pin point accuracy guy, and in a season where Romo was looking to cut down his mistakes, he didnt want to take the chance of making errors. There are other qbs that could get roy the ball (qbs that are absolutely not better than romo). This is not just williams problem. Its really our problem because Romo and Williams are what the are.

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[thechosen1n2]

Roy would be better off with someone like Favre because Romo isn't going to throw you the ball unless you are open.


You think Sidney Rice would've had the same year here in Dallas? No way.

I don't think a Plaxico Burress in his prime would do well here in Dallas either.

Its just not Romos style to put some air under a pass and let his guy make a play.

So that tells me Roy doesn't really fit in with what our QB likes.

You sir have hit it dead on the head.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I agree somewhat that a better effort should be made to get Roy Williams the ball.

However, if your Quarterback flatout doesn't trust a receiver, the Quarterback is going to win out each and every time.

Personally, I believe the "lack" of trust Tony Romo seems to have in Roy Williams runs deeper then just dropping passes, I believe it has a lot more to do with Tony Romo frequently expecting Roy Williams to be in a spot and Roy Williams not being there.

As far as your thoughts on Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning is arguably the best Quarterback in NFL History. He can make very average receivers look very good.

 

[thechosen1n2]

I agree somewhat that a better effort should be made to get Roy Williams the ball.

However, if your Quarterback flatout doesn't trust a receiver, the Quarterback is going to win out each and every time.

Personally, I believe the "lack" of trust Tony Romo seems to have in Roy Williams runs deeper then just dropping passes, I believe it has a lot more to do with Tony Romo frequently expecting Roy Williams to be in a spot and Roy Williams not being there.

As far as your thoughts on Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning is arguably the best Quarterback in NFL History. He can make very average receivers look very good.

Yeah but at the same time there has been times that Williams was open and was ignored....maybe not intentionally but ignored none the less.

 

[birdwells1]

Roy would be better off with someone like Favre because Romo isn't going to throw you the ball unless you are open.


You think Sidney Rice would've had the same year here in Dallas? No way.

I don't think a Plaxico Burress in his prime would do well here in Dallas either.

Its just not Romos style to put some air under a pass and let his guy make a play.

So that tells me Roy doesn't really fit in with what our QB likes.

Never thought about it that way but since he'll be here next year what do we do?

 

[birdwells1]

I agree somewhat that a better effort should be made to get Roy Williams the ball.

However, if your Quarterback flatout doesn't trust a receiver, the Quarterback is going to win out each and every time.

Personally, I believe the "lack" of trust Tony Romo seems to have in Roy Williams runs deeper then just dropping passes, I believe it has a lot more to do with Tony Romo frequently expecting Roy Williams to be in a spot and Roy Williams not being there.

As far as your thoughts on Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning is arguably the best Quarterback in NFL History. He can make very average receivers look very good.

Yeah but he didn't do it last year and the team suffered. I think he came out and said that he was going to throw the ball to everyone and it's their job to catch it. I remember so off games for Collie and Garcon where they had drops but he kept throwing them the ball.

 

[Doomsay]

Roy would be better off with someone like Favre because Romo isn't going to throw you the ball unless you are open.


You think Sidney Rice would've had the same year here in Dallas? No way.

I don't think a Plaxico Burress in his prime would do well here in Dallas either.

Its just not Romos style to put some air under a pass and let his guy make a play.

So that tells me Roy doesn't really fit in with what our QB likes.

Tony throws a lot of jump balls to Austin. I don't think that it's an issue of Roy's style, I think that it's an issue of Roy's lack of proximity to his assigned route.