Peyton, Romo Trust Issues

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Not very good idea to compare a hall of fame QB to a guy who still has a lot to prove.
 

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Daudr;3254711 said:
Are you trying to suggest that Roy Williams makes plays "when covered?" Because if you are, then perhaps you should check your facts again. Roy Williams either drops balls, or deflects them for an interception when he is covered.

This is exactly why Romo shouldn't force the ball into RW. He perpetuates the turnover Tony crowd knocking him.
 

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JBond;3254804 said:
So his 43% catch rate has little to do with it? Worst on the team by far and almost worst in the league. But keep chucking it his way I guess. At least 2 of Romo's int's were the direct result of poor play by RW. I don't blame Romo for looking other directions when it matters most.

So what's your suggestion?
 

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Arch Stanton;3254885 said:
This is exactly why Romo shouldn't force the ball into RW. He perpetuates the turnover Tony crowd knocking him.
It's like Romo's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

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Arch Stanton;3254885 said:
This is exactly why Romo shouldn't force the ball into RW. He perpetuates the turnover Tony crowd knocking him.

We've already tried to win throwing it to 2 recievers (T.O. and Witten in 07 and 08 and Austin and Witten in 09) and we haven't been successful. Look at the 2 SB teams they have multiple recievers to throw to which makes them very hard to defend. Indy Wayne Collie Garcon Clark and NO Shockey Henderson Closton Meachum. Dallas Austin Witten. We need more production out of our out recieving positions.
 

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birdwells1;3254946 said:
We've already tried to win throwing it to 2 recievers (T.O. and Witten in 07 and 08 and Austin and Witten in 09) and we haven't been successful. Look at the 2 SB teams they have multiple recievers to throw to which makes them very hard to defend. Indy Wayne Collie Garcon Clark and NO Shockey Henderson Closton Meachum. Dallas Austin Witten. We need more production out of our out recieving positions.

I guess if you cannot get production out of RW then you try another unknown, Ogletree. VR shouldn't be married to RW no matter how much he costs.
 

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DallasEast;3254937 said:
It's like Romo's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

;)

For sure....you have the usual suspects waiting in the wings for a mistake.
 

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birdwells1;3254777 said:
Yeah but what's the solution because as of now he's going to be here next year.

I guess what Romo has been doing in the second half of the year ..... throw to the other receivers and look his way as a last resort unless he is wide open. LOL Personally, I would make him earn his roster spot, and not just hand it to him.
 

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Arch Stanton;3254995 said:
For sure....you have the usual suspects waiting in the wings for a mistake.

This is not a bash Tony thread, it's more like a "what do we have to do to fix our passing game thread".
 

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birdwells1;3254946 said:
We've already tried to win throwing it to 2 recievers (T.O. and Witten in 07 and 08 and Austin and Witten in 09) and we haven't been successful. Look at the 2 SB teams they have multiple recievers to throw to which makes them very hard to defend. Indy Wayne Collie Garcon Clark and NO Shockey Henderson Closton Meachum. Dallas Austin Witten. We need more production out of our out recieving positions.

We have also tried the throwing it to T.O. even when he's covered, and even when he drops it and that didn't get us to the "Promised Land" either. He will either have to improve, or we will replace him. He has had a year and a half to get on the same page as Romo, and its not like he is a rookie.
 

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birdwells1;3254932 said:
So what's your suggestion?

Bench him. I defended him all season. He is indefensible at this point. He has a lot of work to do this off-season. Hopefully someone will explain to him how to run a proper route and how to catch the ball when it hits him in the hands. If not, bury him on the roster and let the young kids play. I was one of the few that didn't think we needed him from the beginning. I tried to like the guy and give him a chance because he is now a Cowboy. But the fact is he is a piss poor receiver. I don't care how much we pay him or Barber for that matter. Actions speak louder than words and both of those players held us back this year. I don't want to waste a bunch of plays on them next season if this is all they are capable of.
 

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RESIN8;3254880 said:
Not very good idea to compare a hall of fame QB to a guy who still has a lot to prove.

Romo doesn't have anything else to prove to anybody.

All he has left to do is accomplish things and keep building on his already impressive resume.
 

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Maikeru-sama;3254531 said:
When Tony Romo throws the ball to Jason Witten, good things seem to always happen.

When Tony Romo throws the ball to Miles Austin, good things seem to always happen.

You can make somewhat an argument for Patrick Crayton.

However, when he throws the ball to Roy Williams, it is a totally toss up as to what will happen.

So instinctively and by Human Nature, what would expect Tony Romo to do?

Not to mention the other aspect which is Roy Williams making excuses as to why he doesn't perform. It's the lights got in his eyes, he didn't have Tony Romo's Cellphone number last year, he was injured, only gets 2 looks a game so he has to make the most of it, he now has to get 300 yards in a game to match Miles Austin, he has the best hands in the NFC etc etc etc.

It is up to Roy Williams to make Tony Romo comfortable and trust him, not the other way around.

This is deserving a "duh"..........
 

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Peyton could have High schoolers out there looking like all pros. He is light years ahead of every other QB. Its nots the system,its him. He is the best QB to ever play the game. He is the smartest as well. Yes better then Brady,Montana,Bradshaw,Staubach,Aik,Marino,all of them.
 

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juck;3255191 said:
Peyton could have High schoolers out there looking like all pros. He is light years ahead of every other QB. Its nots the system,its him. He is the best QB to ever play the game. He is the smartest as well. Yes better then Brady,Montana,Bradshaw,Staubach,Aik,Marino,all of them.

No smiley necessary.
 

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JBond;3255066 said:
Bench him. I defended him all season. He is indefensible at this point. He has a lot of work to do this off-season. Hopefully someone will explain to him how to run a proper route and how to catch the ball when it hits him in the hands. If not, bury him on the roster and let the young kids play. I was one of the few that didn't think we needed him from the beginning. I tried to like the guy and give him a chance because he is now a Cowboy. But the fact is he is a piss poor receiver. I don't care how much we pay him or Barber for that matter. Actions speak louder than words and both of those players held us back this year. I don't want to waste a bunch of plays on them next season if this is all they are capable of.

Exactly. Either produce or move aside. This window can close at any minute. Even if you just bench a player for one game, the sting will fix his wagon shore 'nuff....
 

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I think it either comes down to route running or RW just isn't quick off the line.

He reminds me of a poor mans Keyshawn Johnson except that he's more expensive....so that would make him a more expensive Keyshawn Johnson....except that it seemed that KJ would just catch whatever was thrown his way.

I just hope that SOME trust is garnered by RW. At least RW isn't causing any problems and recognizes when those around him are losing confidence in him.

I was never high on getting him and he hasn't helped that feeling, but he IS on the team and COULD become more integral than what he is....so I'm holding out hope!
 
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