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PFF Gives Dak Bad Grade

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by PJTHEDOORS, Oct 17, 2016.

  1. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Moderator

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    Were the grades for Wentz lower? :p
     
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  2. punchnjudy

    punchnjudy Well-Known Member

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    You must be really annoyed at Reality for refusing to add Sanchez to his poll.
     
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  3. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    Box score metrics? What are you even talking about? And if you think none of the things I suggested would improve their grading system, then you're delusional.
     
  4. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Moderator

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    Yes, I gathered that. It remains an incredibly ridiculous statement to make. But you can quadruple down if you wish.
     
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  5. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Moderator

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    The problem is the fallacy of your reasoning. The odds are against him winning games when he turns it over twice. Now if the other team turns it over four times then he probably skates. That won't always happen. So the statement who cares as long as he keeps winning is functionally flawed. He faces greater odds winning closer games away from home if he has to fight a -2 or greater TO Diff.

    You must protect the ball and this is my greatest critique of one Tony Romo as well. As it should be for any QB.
     
  6. Clove

    Clove Shrinkage

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    Carolina went 15 - 1 last year, went to the bowl, lost. We went 4-12 last year did not go to the bowl. We got Zeke. Now we're 5-1 they are 1-5.

    I'll say it again, 1-15 plus 15-1 = nada if you don't win the Bowl.
     
  7. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    What PFF or anyone else can't quantify is the reaction the team has to Dak and his leadership.

    While it would be crazy to expect a rookie QB to not have fumbles and INT's, you can call it bad and downgrade his performance if you wish. But the entire team plays hard for, and responds to Dak like very few QB's ever achieve. The run game, the OL, the defense... they all play better and with more confidence when Prescott is in the game.

    They did it at his HS... they did it it MS State... and they're doing it in Dallas. You can't put a number on that and frankly, that is a big reason why the team can have mistakes and still cruise to an easy victory at Lambeau field.

    It is the chemistry. The belief. The trust. The togetherness that Prescott fosters when he's leading a team.

    Laugh at this if you wish... but I'm telling you, it is real and PFF can't do anything to grade that.
     
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  8. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Moderator

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    Some might argue winning shows that but I agree.

    Momentum and winning are hard to regain if lost.
     
  9. ConceptCoop

    ConceptCoop Well-Known Member

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    Yeah - either I'm delusional or you're not quite as smart as you think you are. You're call is as good as mine. But zero of your suggestions improve their metric. In fact, they go against the very aim of it.

    You suggested they introduce raw data (or metrics that rely on raw data) into the equation. The whole point of their service is to add context that outside of that. Adding more variation only adds to the subjectivity of the practice. Adding situational value only adds more subjectivity to the practice. There are stats that do that - box score stats - and that's not what PFF is trying to do.
     
  10. fortdick

    fortdick Well-Known Member

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    Or cured cancer, flew to the moon and made lasagna. As good as Dak is playing, does anyone really believe we would be losing with Romo playing while Zeke puts up 150 a game?
     
  11. fortdick

    fortdick Well-Known Member

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    Okay Troy.
     
  12. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Moderator

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    It's true and the only reason to keep Dak at QB when Romo is healthy.

    I was thinking they'd start Romo for Philly but I'm wondering if they let the kid play and see how it goes.
     
  13. endersdragon

    endersdragon Well-Known Member

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    *puts on flameproof vest* I am not surprised. He hit wide open receivers all game long because the Packers were playing a player they had just activated from the practice squad and another guy fail down like 3 times, Daks poor throw cost us a TD from the 3, he threw a really bad pass on the pick, he literally just dropped the ball which should have cost us more points if not for the ball going right underneath a Packers player. Statistically that was a great game... When you look at the film... Not so much.
     
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  14. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Moderator

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    +1 for the "lasagna" reference.
     
  15. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    You've got an interesting point of view, and I'm capable of accepting it without agreeing and without resulting to insults. Amazing, I know.
     
  16. percyhoward

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    Prescott had the 3rd-highest passer rating for a visiting QB in Rodgers' 70 career games at Lambeau.

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