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PFF Gives Dak Bad Grade

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by PJTHEDOORS, Oct 17, 2016.

  1. deadrody

    deadrody Member

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    This is so funny. You guys act like it was a 1 point game. It wasn't. The offense put up THIRTY in a game you claim Dak was "iffy". And won by 2 TDs and it wasn't even that close. Winning by a FG is "escaping with a win" which is the kind of language you guys are basically using.
     
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  2. deadrody

    deadrody Member

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    That's easily one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.

    Furthermore, Rodgers was just bad. Does the defense get credit for him overthrowing Cobb in the endzone when he was WIDE open ? Does Church and the defense really get credit for simply catching a ball Rodgers threw right to him ?

    The idea that this was a close game that Dak's ineffectiveness almost cost them is laughable.
     
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  3. mattjames2010

    mattjames2010 Well-Known Member

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    2 fumbles, one recovered by the defense. One INT at the what our 15 yard line? Not sure he "almost lost it", but he put our defense in a lot of bad spots yesterday.
     
  4. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Moderator

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    Not hardly.

    It's a team game and the win was the result of many parts that came together that created the 14 point win.

    Did all of those parts perform at the same level? Of course not.

    Some did better than others.
     
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  5. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Moderator

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    You're comparing apples and oranges. There is nothing wrong with your use of the stats and overall picture. I do the same with my overall analysis of the team and each player. But PFF and other sites like it delve into it deeper and that colors a different picture at times. For me it enhances my view of the game and I just plug that into the computer for the overall results.

    There is no right or wrong way to use them although there are valid reasons to look at each snap in depth IMO. It depends on how deep you want to go into the rabbit hole.

    You can't turn the ball over twice and expect people to ooh and aah over your performance. And the other fumble recovered I believe killed a drive. The INT may have been on Dak or Witten or both. The fumble recovered is on Dak. The other fumble is on him and the OL.

    The fact we won does not impede or make unimportant the results of an in depth analysis of the game. There are many variables which made up the win including a subpar performance by Rodgers.

    Don't conflate the two issues or set of values.
     
  6. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Moderator

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    If I could give you more likes than Risen Star I would. :)
     
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  7. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Moderator

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    All you need is love.....***my best Beatles voice***
     
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  8. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    Like I said, the data is worthwhile. The grades are garbage.
     
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  9. lockster

    lockster Well-Known Member

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    Listen, I love what Dak has done, but you can't be blind to his mistakes. That wasn't a good game for him grade wise and shouldn't have received a high grade, but yes he did enough to win. I personally want Romo back sooner than later, but very very glad we have Dak. Elliot and other guys added has made this team a better team than last year, at least on offense.
    You guys say these things about Romo while failing to realize this is a team game and there's so many other factors. If we wouldn't have had Romo all these years we'd found ourselves occupying the basement every year for years because that's how bad our team was.
     
  10. Clove

    Clove Shrinkage

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    what's the difference between a 1 + 15 team and a 15 + 1 team who doesn't make the Super Bowl? Nothing.
     
  11. ConceptCoop

    ConceptCoop Well-Known Member

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    I am going to have to disagree with you here. I think we have a different take on what PFF is trying to do. None of your suggested improvements really fix anything. They just change what you're trying to capture. You're asking them to add box score metrics into their grade, which is the exact opposite of what they're doing. There are some advanced box score metrics you might like more than the PFF grade, but I very much appreciate that that's not what PFF is doing.
     
  12. Tabascocat

    Tabascocat Dexternjack Zone Supporter

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    An enjoyable holiday season? :cool:
     
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  13. Chuck 54

    Chuck 54 Well-Known Member

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    Who cares about grades and rankings?

    Who cares about the occasional int or fumble?

    Dak had some perfectly clean games with no TDs; yesterday he had a lost fumble and an INT, but he also threw 3 TDs and took some shots.

    We won going away. I'll take that any day. To be honest, if we keep winning, I'm fine without Dak getting top billing. I'm fine keeping his contract and future contracts under control. Just win the game in any way possible. I could care less about stars. To be honest, despite all we've seen from Dak and Elliott, this is a team game, and right now we have team chemistry playing just as big a role as those rookies.
     
  14. Chuck 54

    Chuck 54 Well-Known Member

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    Wow...I see the point you're making, but it's still ridiculous.
    I lived through every game of Jimmy's first year at 1-15, and believe me, 5-11, 8-8, even missing the playoffs, are all different. The SB isn't the only thing.
     
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  15. PJTHEDOORS

    PJTHEDOORS Well-Known Member

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    Again, 1 fumble lost.
     
  16. Clove

    Clove Shrinkage

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    Tell me what's more important than the Super Bowl?
     
  17. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    My grades so far for him per game....

    Giants: D
    Redskins D+
    Bears C-
    49ers D+
    Bengals: D
    Packers D-

    I'm grading him on a rookie curve. Drop it down a letter grade for a veteran.
     
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  18. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Moderator

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    That's a patently absurd statement.
     
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  19. Clove

    Clove Shrinkage

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    I said it, I meant it.
     
  20. Section446

    Section446 Well-Known Member

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    He had a rough game, still a ridiculous rookie.
     

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