PFF grades vs Cincy

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* I am only including players who played at least half the snaps. So, there were role players who did score very well including Dante Fowler (92.8) and Israel Mukuamu(76.5) but they only played 21 snaps. ...as compared to Diggs and Brown who played all 69 snaps.

* I am again disappointed at how PFF continues to score the CB position. Diggs (58.2) and Brown (60.5) gave up next to nothing and held Jamar Chase to 1 catch for 5 yards. The grades still don't line up with what we see on the field. I mean Awuzie scored a 65.7. Does anyone think he had a better game than Diggs?

Top 5 Defense

1. Micah Parsons 92.6
2. LVE 75
3. Hooker 71.9
4. DLAW 64.1
5. Barr 63.4

Top 5 Offense

1. Terrence Steele 84.1 ( great bounce back game for him)
2. Noah Brown 79.1
3. CD Lamb 78.7
4. Zach Martin 74.0
5. Tyler Smith 73.2


Other Notables

Pollard 68.6
Zeke 52.7
Cooper Rush 53.6 (kinda unfair imo)
Farniok 33.0 ( worst player on the field for second week in a row.)
Trysten Hill 37.3 but only 10 snaps?? He played really well last week. Not sure what happened yesterday.
 
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* I am only including players who played at least half the snaps. So, there were role players who did score very well including Dante Fowler (92.8) and Israel Mukuamu(76.5) but they only played 21 snaps. ...as compared to Diggs and Brown who played all 69 snaps.

* I am again disappointed at how PFF continues to score the CB position. Diggs (58.2) and Brown (60.5) gave up next to nothing and held Jamar Chase to 1 catch for 5 yards. The grades still don't line up with what we see on the field. I mean Awuzie scored a 65.7. Does anyone think he had a better game than Diggs?

Top 5 Defense

1. Micah Parsons 92.6
2. LVE 75
3. Hooker 71.9
4. DLAW 64.1
5. Barr 63.4

Top 5 Offense

1. Terrence Steele 84.1 ( great bounce back game for him)
2. Noah Brown 79.1
3. CD Lamb 78.7
4. Zach Martin 74.0
5. Tyler Smith 73.2


Other Notables

Pollard 68.6
Zeke 52.7
Cooper Rush 53.6 (kinda unfair imo)
Farniok 33.0 ( worst player on the field for second week in a row.)
Trysten Hill 37.3 but only 10 snaps?? He played really well last week. Not sure what happened yesterday.
70 is still a passing grade to me. Everybody under 70 didn't have a good game, IMO.

Sounds crazy to say DLaw and Barr failed against Cinncy, but hey that's life in the NFL.
 
Just for fun. La El was his old self to extremes. He scored a 95.1 in run blocking but a 27.3 (!!) in pass blocking. IMO, he should be moved to G.

Cincy's MVP was DJ Reader (88.0) who benefitted greatly from lining up across from Farniok.
 
I’m curious about Biadasz’s score. He looked a bit shaky.
 
Fowler played very well, for the snaps he was in. That guy has some serious juice in the pass rush. He is a better pass rusher than I thought. He can really help as long as he’s not the main pass rusher for the defense. Paired with DLaw, Parsons, Armstrong, etc., he will have a lot of opportunities.

Quinn will continue to figure out combinations of DL for different situations. The pass rush will continue to improve as the season goes on.
 
* I am only including players who played at least half the snaps. So, there were role players who did score very well including Dante Fowler (92.8) and Israel Mukuamu(76.5) but they only played 21 snaps. ...as compared to Diggs and Brown who played all 69 snaps.

* I am again disappointed at how PFF continues to score the CB position. Diggs (58.2) and Brown (60.5) gave up next to nothing and held Jamar Chase to 1 catch for 5 yards. The grades still don't line up with what we see on the field. I mean Awuzie scored a 65.7. Does anyone think he had a better game than Diggs?

Top 5 Defense

1. Micah Parsons 92.6
2. LVE 75
3. Hooker 71.9
4. DLAW 64.1
5. Barr 63.4

Top 5 Offense

1. Terrence Steele 84.1 ( great bounce back game for him)
2. Noah Brown 79.1
3. CD Lamb 78.7
4. Zach Martin 74.0
5. Tyler Smith 73.2


Other Notables

Pollard 68.6
Zeke 52.7
Cooper Rush 53.6 (kinda unfair imo)
Farniok 33.0 ( worst player on the field for second week in a row.)
Trysten Hill 37.3 but only 10 snaps?? He played really well last week. Not sure what happened yesterday.
I was rooting for LVE....bad injury, but looks like he's playing well.
 
Fowler played very well, for the snaps he was in. That guy has some serious juice in the pass rush. He is a better pass rusher than I thought. He can really help as long as he’s not the main pass rusher for the defense. Paired with DLaw, Parsons, Armstrong, etc., he will have a lot of opportunities.

Quinn will continue to figure out combinations of DL for different situations. The pass rush will continue to improve as the season goes on.
Yeah, that spin move by Fowler where he immediately jumps up with two hands and blocked a pass was nice.
He didn’t see the ball or QB, just jumped
 
* I am only including players who played at least half the snaps. So, there were role players who did score very well including Dante Fowler (92.8) and Israel Mukuamu(76.5) but they only played 21 snaps. ...as compared to Diggs and Brown who played all 69 snaps.

* I am again disappointed at how PFF continues to score the CB position. Diggs (58.2) and Brown (60.5) gave up next to nothing and held Jamar Chase to 1 catch for 5 yards. The grades still don't line up with what we see on the field. I mean Awuzie scored a 65.7. Does anyone think he had a better game than Diggs?

Top 5 Defense

1. Micah Parsons 92.6
2. LVE 75
3. Hooker 71.9
4. DLAW 64.1
5. Barr 63.4

Top 5 Offense

1. Terrence Steele 84.1 ( great bounce back game for him)
2. Noah Brown 79.1
3. CD Lamb 78.7
4. Zach Martin 74.0
5. Tyler Smith 73.2


Other Notables

Pollard 68.6
Zeke 52.7
Cooper Rush 53.6 (kinda unfair imo)
Farniok 33.0 ( worst player on the field for second week in a row.)
Trysten Hill 37.3 but only 10 snaps?? He played really well last week. Not sure what happened yesterday.
I think the Trysten Hill experiment is over. Conner McGovern needs to come back ASAP! Or put Peter's there and see what happens.
 
Just for fun. La El was his old self to extremes. He scored a 95.1 in run blocking but a 27.3 (!!) in pass blocking. IMO, he should be moved to G.

Cincy's MVP was DJ Reader (88.0) who benefitted greatly from lining up across from Farniok.
Lael is still a beast and I agree he should be moved inside but the pass rush grade kinda unfair considering it was Micah. I wish we kicked him inside last year, I think our offense wouldve been dominate if that happened but these coaches never try anything a little different.
 
Lael is still a beast and I agree he should be moved inside but the pass rush grade kinda unfair considering it was Micah. I wish we kicked him inside last year, I think our offense wouldve been dominate if that happened but these coaches never try anything a little different.

The knock on him has always been pass protection. He is the most polarizing RT in the league b/c of the huge disparity in his pass blocking and run blocking grades. I think he was not open to move inside b/c tackles get paid more.
 
Lol pff doesn't determine who had a good game and I love their content.
LOL.... Do teachers grade pop quizzes? A good grade means a good performance right? A bad grade means a bad performance right? When PFF puts a grade on how a player played they are in fact saying who performed well and who performed badly. So they are determining who had a good game by giving them a good grade.

They have a grading system but they don't determine who played good and who played bad. Their grading system does that for them. And who determines the grades? Well PFF determines the grades. Then PFF determines who's had a good game and who hasn't.
 
Anything over 65 is usually above league average play.
Yes, and I want the best for this team. So if a player can't average a 70 or above for the season... There's no way that player is getting a big contract from me. A less than 70 equals less than 10 million in my book. So I'd be looking at Zeke and Tank crossed-eyed right now if I were the GM.

Just Saying.
 
LOL.... Do teachers grade pop quizzes? A good grade means a good performance right? A bad grade means a bad performance right? When PFF puts a grade on how a player played they are in fact saying who performed well and who performed badly. So they are determining who had a good game by giving them a good grade.

They have a grading system but they don't determine who played good and who played bad. Their grading system does that for them. And who determines the grades? Well PFF determines the grades. Then PFF determines who's had a good game and who hasn't.
Pff determines it to who? You? Damn sure not me
 

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