PFT: Brett Favre: Don’t blame Tony Romo for lack of playoff wins

[Super_Kazuya]

Hard to say, Troy situation in Dallas was different than that of Favre or Steve Young. Heck Dallas had Emmitt a 3 time rushing leader and eventual all time leading rusher. A HOF WR in Irvin, a great TE in Novacheck, FB Johnston and a heck of an OL. Not to mention a play making defense.

When Troy was forced into passing wars with the likes of Favre, he did it but over all as you mention Troy gave up personal stats for overall team success, he did not have to put the ball up near as often as Brett did.

I know it's speculation but even if you compare things that aren't based on totals, Favre comes out on top pretty easily. Heck, Aikman's hallmark was supposed to be his accuracy, but Favre actually has a higher career completion percentage (it's close though and both have fine marks). But throw all that out, just going by what you know... do you REALLY think Aikman was better than Favre? In the mid-nineties Favre was like the Jordan of the NFL, he was running around doing all of this magic that Romo does except he had a bazooka for an arm that could make throws Romo could only dream about. And he took care of the ball very well, too. From 95-97, Aikman had a 47 TD to 32 INT ratio, while Favre had a whopping 112 TD to 42 INT ratio, which is really phenomenal considering the risks he took and the amount he threw. Would you trade 75 TDs for 10 INTs? The correct answer is yes.

I just don't think Troy has the talent to match Favre, even if you turned him loose in a passing offense. But I admit, it's just an idea that can't ever be proven.

 

[Doomsday101]

I know it's speculation but even if you compare things that aren't based on totals, Favre comes out on top pretty easily. Heck, Aikman's hallmark was supposed to be his accuracy, but Favre actually has a higher career completion percentage (it's close though and both have fine marks). But throw all that out, just going by what you know... do you REALLY think Aikman was better than Favre? In the mid-nineties Favre was like the Jordan of the NFL, he was running around doing all of this magic that Romo does except he had a bazooka for an arm that could make throws Romo could only dream about. And he took care of the ball very well, too. From 95-97, Aikman had a 47 TD to 32 INT ratio, while Favre had a whopping 112 TD to 42 INT ratio, which is really phenomenal considering the risks he took and the amount he threw. Would you trade 75 TDs for 10 INTs? The correct answer is yes.

I just don't think Troy has the talent to match Favre, even if you turned him loose in a passing offense. But I admit, it's just an idea that can't ever be proven.

Again hard to say. I watched Troy and Brett get into the passing wars in the NFC Championship game and Troy matched him, however Troy situation overall was different due to the talent on the team. Troy did not have to put the ball up like Brett or Young or Kelly hell he had the best RB in the NFL and when teams tried to stop him by loading up the box then Troy took to the air very effectivly. Had Troy been in a WCO who is to say what he would have done or not. To me that is why it is not as easy as just looking at stats because those stats never take all things into account. I think Both are HOF QB

 

[5Stars]

I grew up a Dallas Cowboys fan. I loved Roger Staubach,” he said. “That was back when teams kept the same players on the roster for a long time. Drew Pearson, Randy White, Charlie Waters, Danny White, Robert Newhouse, Tony Dorsett, Billy Joe DuPree, I could go just on and on. I always dreamed of playing for the Cowboys, playing in the Super Bowl.”

Favre is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, no doubt about it. But it’s unlikely that the Cowboys would’ve had more success in the 1990s with Favre than they did with Troy Aikman.

Now, how Favre could’ve helped the Cowboys from 2001 and beyond is a different story.

 

[cowboyvic]

Romo 2011
31 Tds
10 ints
102.5 QB rating

but a much worse team


You need to just stop.

All those stats mean zip! he missed Miles Austin wide-open in that Giants game that would have put the division away. Austin was wide open and the choker missed him. that's who he is. i don't care about his stats. i care about his choking and losing big ball games.

 

[DFWJC]

All those stats mean zip! he missed Miles Austin wide-open in that Giants game that would have put the division away. Austin was wide open and the choker missed him. that's who he is. i don't care about his stats. i care about his choking and losing big ball games.

You're garbage is getting old.

You pick a game where Romo played nearly flawlessly, threw 4 TDs and 0 picks (and a play where Austin says he lost the ball in the lights and Romo and the sideline where clearly puzzled and asking him what happened) and somehow use that play and that game to blame Romo.

Preposterous

There's plenty of ammo to to give Romo (and any other QB to ever play) a lot of grief, but your choice of game (and play) it's pretty silly this time around.

 

[5Stars]

All those stats mean zip! he missed Miles Austin wide-open in that Giants game that would have put the division away. Austin was wide open and the choker missed him. that's who he is. i don't care about his stats. i care about his choking and losing big ball games.

:bang2:

And the beat goes on....

Why you get away with this is beyond me.

And, if you remember (which I doubt), there was a game where Romo hit Austin in stride for a TD, but Austin said he lost the ball in the lights! And that was Romo's fault.

Troll on kid...

 

[DFWJC]

You're unbelievable. Truly. It's like Romo has do everything in your book and his teammates and coaches are not required to help him at all. Get out of here with that garbage and take yourself with.

Very ignore-list worthy poster.

Rarely, if ever, brings anything of substance to the topic. But tries hard to drain the life out the forum as a whole.

Oh well

10 days to the draft!

 

[WhizKid]

Yea anyone who does not suck up to Romo and think he is the greatest , bring nothing to the forum. or anyone who does not believe in you sunshine pumping. 1 playoff win in all most 17 years speak for itself.Jerry Jones and Romo have failed.

no. just you.

 

[perrykemp]

He was a gun slinger...just tossing it out and hoping for great results...sometimes he got them...most of the time he did not.

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You don't the MVP award once not to mention three times in a row "just tossing it out and hoping for great results".

He surely had some flaws, but from a pure talent perspective he was one of the absolute best ever.

 

[Kristen82]

Yea anyone who does not suck up to Romo and think he is the greatest , bring nothing to the forum. or anyone who does not believe in you sunshine pumping. 1 playoff win in all most 17 years speak for itself.Jerry Jones and Romo have failed.

Calm down little boy.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

In a world full of fragile QBs like RGIII, how on earth can you be tough enough to start 320 games in a row, amass 500 TDs and 70,000 yards, win THREE MVPs in a row... and be considered overrated? Maybe by someone who tries to say he's the greatest of all time, but I never hear anyone say that.

You've never heard anyone say he's up there with the greatest QB's of all time?

I hear it all the time.. and its why I agree completely that he's overrated.

500 TD's.. 450 TO's.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

You've never heard anyone say he's up there with the greatest QB's of all time?

I hear it all the time.. and its why I agree completely that he's overrated.

500 TD's.. 450 TO's.

I said I've never heard anyone try to say he is THE greatest of all time, which is the only way one can maybe say is overrating him. He's been "up there" with the greatest QBs of all time since he was 28 years old, when he collected his 3rd MVP to go along with his Super Bowl ring. He could have retired right there and gone into the Hall of Fame with a bullet. But oh wait, he didn't retire... he played 320 games in a row without missing a start and holds pretty much every passing record there is.

 

[landryscorner]

Brett favre is delusional or he didn't watch some of these games like the one where he muffed the field goal attempt..what an idiot

 

[Frozen700]

Yea anyone who does not suck up to Romo and think he is the greatest , bring nothing to the forum. or anyone who does not believe in you sunshine pumping. 1 playoff win in all most 17 years speak for itself.Jerry Jones and Romo have failed.

*Yawn*

It's ok, you're just angry

Drink some milk, and sleep it off.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboyvic

Yea anyone who does not suck up to Romo and think he is the greatest , bring nothing to the forum. or anyone who does not believe in you sunshine pumping. 1 playoff win in all most 17 years speak for itself.Jerry Jones and Romo have failed.

*Yawn*

It's ok, you're just angry

Drink some milk, and sleep it off.

Vic reminds me of another poster on this board who always ripped Romo and was convinced Brady Quinn was the answer (really). I bet some of you remember him. He got wore down so bad and embarrassed himself to the point that he disappeared forever. I'd like to know who Vic's choice is to replace Tony - then we'll see if he can defend that choice. I hope he does because vigorous debate is what this place is all about--

Uneducated cheap shots and personal vendettas towards the QB only cheapen it and eventually he will wear out and disappear too.

 

[justbob]

Enough of the personal jabs.... Stay on thread gentlemen without the attacks and insults.

 

[coogrfan]

. I'd like to know who Vic's choice is to replace Tony - then we'll see if he can defend that choice. I hope he does because vigorous debate is what this place is all about--

Wonder no more:

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/dallascowboys.php?t=254173&highlight=barkley

 

[Primetime42]

One of his best years.

Better hope it doesn't take Romo to take that long to get it.

Um...he "got it" long ago.