PFT: Brett Favre: Don’t blame Tony Romo for lack of playoff wins

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"Does that get you in trouble sometimes when you try to do too much? Sure it does. But I think I’d rather have a guy who’s willing to take those chances.”

I agree with Brett. I would rather see the plays being executed as designed but all too often we have break downs alone the line and Romo has to make something out of nothing. Often times with success but it can also lead to costly mistakes as well.

As Brett said and many others have Football is the ultimate team game and individual success relies on others around him doing their jobs.
 

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Favre is not the end all be all.

To me, he is one of the most overrated players in NFL history at the QB position.
 

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HoustonFrog;5048423 said:
Great talent!Great QB at times. Makes plays. Also messes up in critical times.

Wow, so you mean like every other quarterback who has ever played in the NFL. How profound. Look, was that Peyton Manning throwing away the Broncos season with an awful interception in overtime in a playoff game? Was that Tom Brady with two critical 4th quarter interceptions in their playoff loss? You keep trying to make Romo a unique case but all you've got is Week 1 out of conference games and flubbed snaps. Yes, quarterbacks are going to make mistakes at critical times. That means you are probably pretty damn good to be in that spot in the first place, looking at the company.
 

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SkinsandTerps;5048428 said:
Favre is not the end all be all.

To me, he is one of the most overrated players in NFL history at the QB position.

In a world full of fragile QBs like RGIII, how on earth can you be tough enough to start 320 games in a row, amass 500 TDs and 70,000 yards, win THREE MVPs in a row... and be considered overrated? Maybe by someone who tries to say he's the greatest of all time, but I never hear anyone say that.
 

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What kills me is how so many focus on 1 person as the reason instead of overall team. Including QB but not just QB. The QB plays 1 position out of 11 on offense, he has no control over defense and special teams 2 areas that can make or break any team.

Yes the QB is important but the reason lesser talented QB have won SB over those who are now in the HOF without a ring has everything to do with TEAM, it is not an individual sport like tennis or golf.
 

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Super_Kazuya;5048567 said:
In a world full of fragile QBs like RGIII, how on earth can you be tough enough to start 320 games in a row, amass 500 TDs and 70,000 yards, win THREE MVPs in a row... and be considered overrated? Maybe by someone who tries to say he's the greatest of all time, but I never hear anyone say that.
It is a head-scratcher, isn't it.
 

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So because Favre was loaded up on meds and tough makes him elite ?

He played nearly 90 years and in an offense without a running game for most of that time..duh...tons of passing yards.

He was a gun slinger...just tossing it out and hoping for great results...sometimes he got them...most of the time he did not.

Give Marino a running game and Favre is only mentioned with the likes of Bledsoe as far as yards or anything else.
 

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SkinsandTerps;5048613 said:
So because Favre was loaded up on meds and tough makes him elite ?

He played nearly 90 years and in an offense without a running game for most of that time..duh...tons of passing yards.

He was a gun slinger...just tossing it out and hoping for great results...sometimes he got them...most of the time he did not.

Give Marino a running game and Favre is only mentioned with the likes of Bledsoe as far as yards or anything else.

Dead on
At age 40...he had 33 TD passes and 7 ints and 107 QB rating.

Oh wait......:lmao:
 

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DFWJC;5048623 said:
Dead on
At age 40...he had 33 TD passes and 7 ints and 107 QB rating.

Oh wait......:lmao:

One of his best years.

Better hope it doesn't take Romo to take that long to get it.
 

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SkinsandTerps;5048613 said:
So because Favre was loaded up on meds and tough makes him elite ?

He played nearly 90 years and in an offense without a running game for most of that time..duh...tons of passing yards.

He was a gun slinger...just tossing it out and hoping for great results...sometimes he got them...most of the time he did not.

Give Marino a running game and Favre is only mentioned with the likes of Bledsoe as far as yards or anything else.

Did you miss the three MVPs in a row somewhere? You are seriously showing your youth here. I'll say it again since you missed it. THREE MVPS IN A ROW.

Until you truly grasp the gravity of that, you just won't get it... so stare it at a good long while. For reference, only 7 other players have ever even won more than one. As one poster said earlier, Favre was basically the best player in the league for half a decade. Do you know how hard that is to do?

Yes, Favre had some lean years when the Packers talent fell off... but at that point you are just penalizing him for having a long career. As soon as McCarthy came on board Favre turned in an MVP caliber season with the Pack in 2007 and then 2 years later he did the same with the Vikings. But that was all gravy. Favre sealed his HOF induction long ago in the 90s with the 3rd MVP and Super Bowl.
 

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Super_Kazuya;5048639 said:
Did you miss the three MVPs in a row somewhere? You are seriously showing your youth here. I'll say it again since you missed it. THREE MVPS IN A ROW.

Until you truly grasp the gravity of that, you just won't get it... so stare it at a good long while. For reference, only 7 other players have ever even won more than one. As one poster said earlier, Favre was basically the best player in the league for half a decade. Do you know how hard that is to do?

Yes, Favre had some lean years when the Packers talent fell off... but at they point you are just penalizing him for having a long career. As soon as McCarthy came on board Favre turned in an MVP caliber season with the Pack in 2007 and then 2 years later he did the same with the Vikings. But that was all gravy. Favre sealed his HOF induction long ago in the 90s with the 3rd MVP and Super Bowl.

My youth...I wish.

Perhaps it's simply my acceptance that this guy was annointed as the best and many thought he really was...NFL MVP = Among the best...but our favorite among them. Same as the lame Pro Bowl voting.

Watch the games, watch the players, learn the game.

Favre is overrated. I know he will be in the HOF...so what ? Drew Bledsoe won't make it because of one game, it changed his career right ?

Hmm...
 

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SkinsandTerps;5048428 said:
Favre is not the end all be all.

To me, he is one of the most overrated players in NFL history at the QB position.
which is why he won 3 consecutive NFL mvps's. The only man in history to do that. Oh well continue you on with your ridiculous rant,
 

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SkinsandTerps;5048655 said:
I would take Aikman every time over Favre.

Perhaps that will shine some light.

And I would take those Cowboy teams over GB.

No knock on Troy what so ever, he was the man for the Cowboys but having Mike and Emmitt along with a host of others is what put Dallas at the top of the heap vs GB and SF during the 90's
 

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SkinsandTerps;5048655 said:
I would take Aikman every time over Favre.

Perhaps that will shine some light.

And no one would fault you for that. Troy was a fantastic QB who sacrificed personal stats to play his role on the team. He could have done a lot more if needed, especially when he was still healthy and pre-concussions.

But you would have an EXTREMELY difficult time arguing Aikman was better. In their respective primes, I think Favre did literally everything better.
 

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Super_Kazuya;5048660 said:
And no one would fault you for that. Troy was a fantastic QB who sacrificed personal stats to play his role on the team. He could have done a lot more if needed, especially when he was still healthy and pre-concussions.

But you would have an EXTREMELY difficult time arguing Aikman was better. In their respective primes, I think Favre did literally everything better.

Hard to say, Troy situation in Dallas was different than that of Favre or Steve Young. Heck Dallas had Emmitt a 3 time rushing leader and eventual all time leading rusher. A HOF WR in Irvin, a great TE in Novacheck, FB Johnston and a heck of an OL. Not to mention a play making defense.

When Troy was forced into passing wars with the likes of Favre, he did it but over all as you mention Troy gave up personal stats for overall team success, he did not have to put the ball up near as often as Brett did.
 

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SkinsandTerps;5048633 said:
One of his best years.

Better hope it doesn't take Romo to take that long to get it.
Romo 2011
31 Tds
10 ints
102.5 QB rating

but a much worse team


You need to just stop.
 

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Aikman has 3 rings, Favre has one. Isn't that the end of the discussion?
 

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Lodeus;5048680 said:
Aikman has 3 rings, Favre has one. Isn't that the end of the discussion?

Not really, again QB and ring center around a team. Emmitt Smith got 3 just as well so did Irvin and a host of others. The 90's Cowboys were a great team you have the best RB in all of the NFL he could block, catch and run he was a big part of it, take him out of the lineup and Dallas record suffered same when Irvin was missing time. Dallas won because that was a hell of a team. Yes Troy played a big role in that but you don't win those rings if you take away the other parts. Troy has said that himself, as has Smith and Irvin.
 
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