News: PFT: Chiefs set to sign TE Gavin Escobar

[Knotamus]

C'mon people. Some folks are crying over spilled milk. Go ahead and Call Escobar a bad pick, you prob wouldn't be wrong as it turned out. His only problem is he can't even block a high five. When he was drafted, the idea was to run the 12 personnel that just never got off the ground due to the evolution of our #1 OL and emphasis on the run game that has produced the 1st, 4th, and 1st leading rushers the last three years...I'll take that all day. That was the idea with Bennett too, but his ego was too big, so they move onto Escobar. Garrett wanted to mimic the Pats offense (which wouldn't have been a bad idea), but as it turns out, teams are now trying to memic ours.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

How does this explain the other tight ends that were drafted high and went to other teams? If you have a great center don't use a high draft pick on anothe one, if you have a great qb don't use a high draft pick on another one. If you have a great tight end...... well you get the picture, just doesn't make sense.

Agreed. Any way which way look it reflects poorly on the front office and/or scouting department. The team never tried implement the "12" personnel package they kept talking about. Is that because of the players' failing? Okay. Then that's a direct reflection on the scouting department that they apparently can't scout TE talent.

 

[DandyDon52]

He could have been better than he was if not for Witten. Not complaining because I love Jason, but 82 has held back a handful of guys who went to other teams and succeeded. I hope escobar does some good things in KC

yeah I wish him well, he didnt really have a chance here.
be interesting to see how he does there on a team that likes to pass a lot.

 

[DandyDon52]

I will add when they drafted him, they said it was for a red zone threat, which means he was supposed to catch balls, not block.
Then they never used him for that , although he did catch a few td passes.
Scouts should have known if he was good blocker or not lol.

 

[LocimusPrime]

He will do ok with the Chiefs.

 

[DeaconBlues]

Here's to hoping he becomes an All Pro next year.

 

[gimmesix]

Receiving tight end Gavin Escobar never truly caught on during four seasons in Dallas. He found a fresh start on Friday. The former Cowboys second-round pick will sign a one-year deal with the Chiefs, Adam Caplan of ESPN reported. Escobar caught fewer than 10 passes in each of his years with Dallas, the initial thought he…http://youwillnotrackme2.net/b.gif?host=profootballtalk.nbcsports.com&blog=&post=2449839&subd=nbcprofootballtalk&ref=&feed=1

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For cheap, this is a good move for the Chiefs to find out if Escobar is more than he had a chance to be here. The mistake Dallas made was bringing in a receiving tight end when it needed a blocking tight end. Escobar couldn't block well enough to get on the field to prove if he could succeed in more of a receiving role. I won't be surprised if he goes on the similar success as Martellus Bennett if the Chiefs limit his blocking responsibilities.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The mistake Dallas made was bringing in a receiving tight end when it needed a blocking tight end.

The mistake Dallas made was drafting Escobar to fit one system and never implementing that system.

 

[AbeBeta]

For cheap, this is a good move for the Chiefs to find out if Escobar is more than he had a chance to be here. The mistake Dallas made was bringing in a receiving tight end when it needed a blocking tight end. Escobar couldn't block well enough to get on the field to prove if he could succeed in more of a receiving role. I won't be surprised if he goes on the similar success as Martellus Bennett if the Chiefs limit his blocking responsibilities.

Bennett played well here. He didn't get much chance to catch the ball but he did make himself into one of the best blocking TEs in the league. Not many TEs can handle defensive ends like he can.

Escobar was a system pick for a system that we never put in place.

Bennett showed that he'd be able to keep himself in the league during his time here. Escobar hasn't done that yet

 

[AbeBeta]

The mistake Dallas made was drafting Escobar to fit one system and never implementing that system.

That's a big part of it but I question why he never got a few snaps to give Witten a breather or even in a 2TE, 2WR set on a passing down (particularly with Dez out instead of bringing out a weak #3 WR).

 

[gimmesix]

The mistake Dallas made was drafting Escobar to fit one system and never implementing that system.

Not sure what you mean. He was drafted to be the second tight end in a two-tight end base, but the second tight end in that scheme needs to be more of a blocker since Jason is the primary receiving tight end. Escobar was never a blocking tight end so he couldn't even get the playing time reserved for that role, with it instead going to Hanna because he had developed into a better blocker.

It was a projection by the Cowboys that Escobar would be able to block well enough to handle that second tight end role, and it was a bust.

 

[Rockdoc]

The idea that we were ever going to emulate the Patriots 2 TE system is silly.
they had two very unique players.
Gronk and Hernandez
Gronk we dont need to discuss.
Hernandez had the athletic ability to lineup in the back field. this allowed them to move a RB to WR position. hard to match up
we have never had that kind of player.
hanna maybe had speed but thats it.
NE uses 2 TEs now but not the same scheme (more run, play action).

 

[gimmesix]

Bennett played well here. He didn't get much chance to catch the ball but he did make himself into one of the best blocking TEs in the league. Not many TEs can handle defensive ends like he can.

Escobar was a system pick for a system that we never put in place.

Bennett showed that he'd be able to keep himself in the league during his time here. Escobar hasn't done that yet

The same scheme for using the tight ends that we used with Bennett is the one Escobar was drafted to play in. Bennett got on the field because he could block while Escobar lost playing time to Hanna and Swaim because he could not.

 

[AbeBeta]

The same scheme for using the tight ends that we used with Bennett is the one Escobar was drafted to play in. Bennett got on the field because he could block while Escobar lost playing time to Hanna and Swaim because he could not.

Have you been living under a rock? We clearly expressed an intention to move to a style like NE played where the 2nd TE is more of a WR. It was all that was talked about regarding the pick.

 

[jobberone]

We assumed he was going to be a hybrid TE more of a receiver than inline blocker. Never happened. I hope he slims down some and works on his speed and they use him properly.

 

[gimmesix]

Have you been living under a rock? We clearly expressed an intention to move to a style like NE played where the 2nd TE is more of a WR. It was all that was talked about regarding the pick.

There was never any plan to use Escobar primarily as a split-out receiver. He was going to be coming out of the backfield and moving up to the line just as Bennett did and would have to be able to block well enough for Dallas not to need a fullback-type.

I think fans read into Dallas' plans for him what they wanted to see. We were already using a two-tight end set. Escobar was only supposed to be a bigger receiving threat out of it. However, he couldn't do that if he couldn't block, which he couldn't.

Now, I will agree that the plans changed to an extent when we decided to be more balanced on offense because the amount of blocking needed from the second tight end increased. The need for more blocking changed, but the responsibilities of the second tight end didn't.

 

[gimmesix]

We assumed he was going to be a hybrid TE more of a receiver than inline blocker. Never happened. I hope he slims down some and works on his speed and they use him properly.

That's what was assumed. Dallas didn't really use him that way from the get-go. They didn't change the scheme to accommodate that.

 

[DandyDon52]

Escobar was a system pick for a system that we never put in place.

and the same people who did that will be drafting this month lol.

 

[iceberg]

Some will have to find another to vilify. What an opportunity!

I am a bit disappointed.

if it takes more than 2 minutes for them to redirect their hate, i'll be disappointed.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Bennett was a good player for us. He was actually very good for a tight end 2. Everyone knew he would succeed better if he was the main guy. He was pretty average for the Patriots when Gronl was healthy.

Fasano had an average but lengthy career.

I just find this silly.

Dallas doesn't feature two tight ends....they would prefer to get the ball in the hands of their receivers or running backs. Just because we don't feature two right ends does not make any of our coaches lesser coaches. Statistically? I would guess our offense has been on par with the Patriots.

Just because we are doing stuff different and having the same success does not make our offense lesser than anyone. Our defense is the problem.

If we do feature RBs in the passing game, why did Zeke only get one pass in the playoffs? We get it to WRs and Witten, bout it.

I wish we did get it to Zeke more in the passing game cause we need more of a more diverse and creative offense.