PFT: Dak has Jerry Jones in checkmate

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You have to look at the cap over time not year by year because the team can always restructure contracts to move money back. If we want to cut Dak next year, the cap won’t be a reason not to and in fact we save $34M over the next two years If we cut him.

If we let him play out his contract his cap hits are:
2024 $59.5M; 2025 $36.5M

If we cut him next year his cap hits are:
2024 $25.5M; 2025 $36.5M or $34M less

now if we extend him the savings next year isn’t what people are thinking because almost half of next years cap hit is bonuses already paid out in prior years and that can’t be touched from a cap perspective and there is also a $5M roster bonus that will likely be earned before we are able to extend him. So that means next years cap hit is $30.5M plus 1/5 of his signing bonus on the new deal. So even if the bonus is only $20m and split over 5 years that makes next years cap hit $34.5M or $9M more than if we cut him and the $36.5M still left (25 and 26) doesn’t go away either although the $11M in 2026 stays there instead of accelerating into 2025. Now add to that the SB and at least a $1M salary and that makes 2025 cap hit at least $30M. The biggest problem is if you do this on a 4 year $200M extension and through the first two years have only allocated a total of $9M that means in the next two years (plus a 3rd for cap purposes after he is gone) you still need to allocate $191M and don’t forget the $11M still left in 2026.

so the worst thing we can do for our cap is extend Dak. If we extend him it’s because the team thinks we have a better chance to win with him because giving him another huge deal will absolutely crush our cap a few years from now. Don’t believe Dak has us over a barrel at all. Lastly don’t forget we can easily clear a lot of room next year by restructuring different players if we have to. Don’t worry about the 2024 cap worry about the 2026/7 cap when all of our young players are in the middle of their new deals and beyond the first couple of low cap hit years if we are still paying Dak a huge salary
 
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Dak Prescott has Jerry Jones in contract checkmate — and Jerry knows it​

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...ones-in-contract-checkmate-and-jerry-knows-it



There’s a beautiful irony to the situation in which Cowboys owner and G.M. Jerry Jones finds himself, when it comes to quarterback Dak Prescott’s contract.

Prescott currently has PRECISELY the kind of leverage that Jerry would relish and maximize if he were in Dak’s shoes.

The problem traces to the Cowboys failing and refusing to reward the 2016 fourth-round draft pick after he became eligible for a second contract, following his third season. They retained him in 2019 at a bargain-basement price, before using the franchise tag in 2020.
Checkmate for what? This notion that every "franchise QB" is the same, so the next one gets paid more than the last one is nonsense.

Jerry has to give Dak $50 million a year because of Burrow? $50 million a year for what? Burrow has played in two conference championship games. Burrow has played in a Super Bowl. Dak has only watched those things on TV, despite being in the NFL longer than Burrow. Why should Dak's compensation have anything to do with Burrow?

Burrow has already led his team to places Dak has never gone. Paying Dak "market price" based on Burrow is just dumb. Dak needs to earn that price. So far, he hasn't.
 

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It's a fools errand to worry about the salary cap as yall do. As long as it keeps going up, contracts will too. To my memory, Cowboys haven't lost someone they wanted.
 

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You have to look at the cap over time not year by year because the team can always restructure contracts to move money back. If we want to cut Dak next year, the cap won’t be a reason not to and in fact we save $34M over the next two years If we cut him.

If we let him play out his contract his cap hits are:
2024 $59.5M; 2025 $36.5M

If we cut him next year his cap hits are:
2024 $25.5M; 2025 $36.5M or $34M less

now if we extend him the savings next year isn’t what people are thinking because almost half of next years cap hit is bonuses already paid out in prior years and that can’t be touched from a cap perspective and there is also a $5M roster bonus that will likely be earned before we are able to extend him. So that means next years cap hit is $30.5M plus 1/5 of his signing bonus on the new deal. So even if the bonus is only $20m and split over 5 years that makes next years cap hit $34.5M or $9M more than if we cut him and the $36.5M still left (25 and 26) doesn’t go away either although the $11M in 2026 stays there instead of accelerating into 2025. Now add to that the SB and at least a $1M salary and that makes 2025 cap hit at least $30M. The biggest problem is if you do this on a 4 year $200M extension and through the first two years have only allocated a total of $9M that means in the next two years (plus a 3rd for cap purposes after he is gone) you still need to allocate $191M and don’t forget the $11M still left in 2026.

so the worst thing we can do for our cap is extend Dak. If we extend him it’s because the team thinks we have a better chance to win with him because giving him another huge deal will absolutely crush our cap a few years from now. Don’t believe Dak has us over a barrel at all. Lastly don’t forget we can easily clear a lot of room next year by restructuring different players if we have to. Don’t worry about the 2024 cap worry about the 2026/7 cap when all of our young players are in the middle of their new deals and beyond the first couple of low cap hit years if we are still paying Dak a huge salary
Thanks for the breakdown. Good job. I appreciate it.
 

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You have to look at the cap over time not year by year because the team can always restructure contracts to move money back. If we want to cut Dak next year, the cap won’t be a reason not to and in fact we save $34M over the next two years If we cut him.

If we let him play out his contract his cap hits are:
2024 $59.5M; 2025 $36.5M

If we cut him next year his cap hits are:
2024 $25.5M; 2025 $36.5M or $34M less

now if we extend him the savings next year isn’t what people are thinking because almost half of next years cap hit is bonuses already paid out in prior years and that can’t be touched from a cap perspective and there is also a $5M roster bonus that will likely be earned before we are able to extend him. So that means next years cap hit is $30.5M plus 1/5 of his signing bonus on the new deal. So even if the bonus is only $20m and split over 5 years that makes next years cap hit $34.5M or $9M more than if we cut him and the $36.5M still left (25 and 26) doesn’t go away either although the $11M in 2026 stays there instead of accelerating into 2025. Now add to that the SB and at least a $1M salary and that makes 2025 cap hit at least $30M. The biggest problem is if you do this on a 4 year $200M extension and through the first two years have only allocated a total of $9M that means in the next two years (plus a 3rd for cap purposes after he is gone) you still need to allocate $191M and don’t forget the $11M still left in 2026.

so the worst thing we can do for our cap is extend Dak. If we extend him it’s because the team thinks we have a better chance to win with him because giving him another huge deal will absolutely crush our cap a few years from now. Don’t believe Dak has us over a barrel at all. Lastly don’t forget we can easily clear a lot of room next year by restructuring different players if we have to. Don’t worry about the 2024 cap worry about the 2026/7 cap when all of our young players are in the middle of their new deals and beyond the first couple of low cap hit years if we are still paying Dak a huge salary
Excellent post. Dak only has us over a barrel if you've got the preconceived idea that Dak (and only Dak) can get us a SB. Now if he shows that he can overcome adversity in this seasons play-offs (and he doesnt fail again when chasing that lead), then yes, he's the man and Jerry needs to get in the barrel and take it, but until Dak does that there is no MUST EXTEND.
 

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Checkmate for what? This notion that every "franchise QB" is the same, so the next one gets paid more than the last one is nonsense.

Jerry has to give Dak $50 million a year because of Burrow? $50 million a year for what? Burrow has played in two conference championship games. Burrow has played in a Super Bowl. Dak has only watched those things on TV, despite being in the NFL longer than Burrow. Why should Dak's compensation have anything to do with Burrow?

Burrow has already led his team to places Dak has never gone. Paying Dak "market price" based on Burrow is just dumb. Dak needs to earn that price. So far, he hasn't.
This is exactly why I'm not on Team Dak. It's never been about his play (which hasn't been at at elite level if we're being honest), but mostly about getting paid what he hasn't earned. If you want top dollar you need to go out and start producing more than regular season stats. Stop leading the league in INT's. Stop crapping the bed in the post season.

Burrow is 5-2 in the post season and has a super bowl on his resume. What has Dak accomplished in the post season? Oh yeah, he was able to finally get past a poor team that had a 46 year old QB and shouldn't have even made the playoffs. Bravo for Dak.
 
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Jerry has his Ace in the Hole - Trey Lance. No seriously, until the Lance trade Jerry was really stuck with Dak. But if Lance can develop into a decent QB at least Jerry can let him walk after his contract is up. Of course this is a long shot, but it is still an outside chance.

Jerry lost leverage when he allowed Dak to fleece him on his last deal. The no trade, no franchise tag clauses tied Jerry to the fence post with his little Bic pen hanging out and ready to sign the next deal. As soon as Jerry signed that deal he should have known he would be in this position today. His next move should have been to start drafting QBs hoping to find a Dak replacement no matter how low the probability was.
very true . That was a terrible deal and has not worked so far . Unless Jerry just wants to make Dak prove his worth with a SB win during these years . dak has not proven anything but that he is a decent to average QB. The excuses are running out for Dak .
 

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Jerry has already overpaid Dak. If he gives him a newer, better contract, that would be absurd. Dak hasn't earned more money. He hasn't even earned the money he's already paid. I'm sure, in the negotiations, Jerry wasn't like, "We're paying you this so that you can have some regular season success and then get to the divisional round and tank."
 

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Dak Prescott has Jerry Jones in contract checkmate — and Jerry knows it​

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...ones-in-contract-checkmate-and-jerry-knows-it



There’s a beautiful irony to the situation in which Cowboys owner and G.M. Jerry Jones finds himself, when it comes to quarterback Dak Prescott’s contract.
nothing beautiful or ironic about a FO that leaves itself no options at the most important position on out team

If Dak has a monster year, which we all hope, this situation will take care of itself because it means that he has delivered in the playoffs and is worthy of his salary cap burden.

But if he stays the same or regresses, the FO has to bow down and kiss the ring anyway.

This is exactly why some of us have been begging them to draft or acquire depth at this position. 25 plus years of drafting malpractice at the Qb position just continues to bite them
 

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NOPE...............

Name the last NFL starting a team released/cut after June?????? Sure it's an option but it's not the way NFL teams operate, it just isn't. The only I see it may happen is if a team gets stuck with an old injured QB a year or two from retirement who has ZERO value. Dak is in his prime.......there's zero chance of him getting cut/released, maybe traded but no release. ( see Rogers )
 

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If not Dak, then who? Dak is an Eagle killer. He ain't going anywhere...
 

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We have a match-up between Jerry and Dak so let's take a closer look at the competitors.

Jerry Jones: 81 years old burning for 1 more SB before he meets the man in the sky.
BILLIONAIRE in fact the team alone has been estimated to be worth over 9 billion.
Traded a 4th round pick for Trey Lance......he's a QB correct????


And in the other corner, we have Dak Tattoo Prescott:

Has only 2 playoff wins and 4 losses to his resume in 7 years.
Known for his choking in big games.
Has been paid over 200 million for the above results.
Made his career with 4th Q garbage stats(while the Cowboys lost) and beat up the weak NFC East with a total W-L record of 27-7.
Spent 11 hours under to have his leg tattooed......LOL :muttley: ...come again he did what???
His own teammates are starting to show very little respect for him (Mr. Diggs you called him a what?) yet his fans say he's a great leader.

I'll take the Billionaire to win this one walking away come the Spring of 2024.:omg:
 

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We have a match-up between Jerry and Dak so let's take a closer look at the competitors.

Jerry Jones: 81 years old burning for 1 more SB before he meets the man in the sky.
BILLIONAIRE in fact the team alone has been estimated to be worth over 9 billion.
Traded a 4th round pick for Trey Lance......he's a QB correct????


And in the other corner, we have Dak Tattoo Prescott:

Has only 2 playoff wins and 4 losses to his resume in 7 years.
Known for his choking in big games.
Has been paid over 200 million for the above results.
Made his career with 4th Q garbage stats(while the Cowboys lost) and beat up the weak NFC East with a total W-L record of 27-7.
Spent 11 hours under to have his leg tattooed......LOL :muttley: ...come again he did what???
His own teammates are starting to show very little respect for him (Mr. Diggs you called him a what?) yet his fans say he's a great leader.

I'll take the Billionaire to win this one walking away come the Spring of 2024.:omg:
Jerry will have it on PPV, order yours today to see the fight.
 

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That shows the dead money hit for 2024 only I believe. There would also a huge dead money hit in 2025.

Multiple sources report the total dead money after this season as $61,915,000 (for 2024 and 2025). Making Dak a post June 1 cut affects only the timing of the dead money hit, not the amount of it. Any way you slice it, that's about $62 million of cap space wasted on a player that's not on the team.

Dak's contract has been restructured over and over, but only delaying the inevitable.
this is correct, dont care if you love/hate Dak the number for no Dak in 2024 is 61 mill... those are facts and you will be losing more than just Dak if you take that hit.
 

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this is correct, dont care if you love/hate Dak the number for no Dak in 2024 is 61 mill... those are facts and you will be losing more than just Dak if you take that hit.
Real questions:

1. So the cap is fake as some say on here

2. The cap hit can not be manipulated?
 

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Dak Prescott has Jerry Jones in contract checkmate — and Jerry knows it​

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...ones-in-contract-checkmate-and-jerry-knows-it



There’s a beautiful irony to the situation in which Cowboys owner and G.M. Jerry Jones finds himself, when it comes to quarterback Dak Prescott’s contract.

Prescott currently has PRECISELY the kind of leverage that Jerry would relish and maximize if he were in Dak’s shoes.

The problem traces to the Cowboys failing and refusing to reward the 2016 fourth-round draft pick after he became eligible for a second contract, following his third season. They retained him in 2019 at a bargain-basement price, before using the franchise tag in 2020.
Dak has the same leverage that any other top 10 QB has over their owner that doesnt have another top 10 QB on the bench. This is nothing new.
 

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Real questions:

1. So the cap is fake as some say on here

2. The cap hit can not be manipulated?
if by "Manipulated" you mean restructure or extended then yes but everyone saying "Jerry can do nothing and the hit is 30 mill" are wrong... both sides can decide to do nothing and Dak's cap hit will be HIGH. Im not sure who says the cap is fake but thats also not true.. NOW what we dont know is what exactly will be the amount the cap goes up..but if they do nothing it better go up ALOT or we will lose some good players from the cap hit.
 

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Booger just needs to play this on a loop for Dak and agent.


I mean its on loop here so I'm sure they have seen it, it hits 90% of the Dak threads... some on this forum are not known for thier "Originality" of course Dak's agent can just show Jerry the loop of Dak beating Herbert who just got Brink truck paid and that video is actually recent..
 
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