PFT: Dak has Jerry Jones in checkmate

Captain-Crash

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I mean its on loop here so I'm sure they have seen it, it hits 90% of the Dak threads... some on this forum are not known for thier "Originality" of course Dak's agent can just show Jerry the loop of Dak beating Herbert who just got Brink truck paid and that video is actually recent..
how did dak beat herbert? is this not a team sport? :) I had too, too easy.
 

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I wonder if Packer fans thought Rodgers had their owner in checkmate?

If the owner wants you gone you'll be gone.
Anyone should use caution with using this particular analogy. Green Bay has a board of directors, not an owner. Packer fans had watched their board never drafted a skill position player in the first round, from the 2005, when Green Bay drafted Aaron Rodgers , to 2020. Green Bay fans were thinking and shared a fairly understandable consensus their board would draft a wide receiver like Justine Jefferson, Henry Ruggs, Jerry Jeudy, Jalen Reagor, even CeeDee Lamb, etc., to upgrade their offense, team and quarterback weapons after reaching the NFC Championship game a few months earlier.

Instead, their fans saw a #30 and #136 pick trade package to move UP four slots to 26th overall and select Jordan Love. And afterwards they heard their general manager Brian Gutekunst say:

"We've got the best quarterback in the National Football League, and we plan to have him for a while competing for championships. I can understand the fan base and people thinking, 'Why would you do this at this time?' But I just think the value of our board and the way it sat, it was the best for the Green Bay Packers, and we're really excited to get Jordan here and get him in the door and learning our system." (link)​

--they likely understood Love would not be replacing Rodgers anytime soon.

Contrastly, Jerry Jones, the owner with general manager powers, signed Dak Prescott to a $160 million dollar contract in March 2021. There is very little reason to believe he did not know how every consequence for making that deal would impact the team's salary cap down the road.

Yet, a month later, he traded DOWN two spots for Micah Parsons, which is doubtful ANY fan of any team would have been permanently disappointed in then or now. Well. Maybe Charlie Brown would have supported mortgaging the house for Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson or Trey Lance. Or blocking the Bears from grabbing Justin Fields one slot down. Or trading down five slots further while collecting more picks for Mac Jones before Bill Belichick got him. None of that happened.

2022? Jones stood pat at number 24. Kenny Pickett had a first-round draft grade. They could have hypothetically contacted Pittsburgh with the 20th pick for Pickett? None of that happened. The Steelers got Pickett. Dallas got Tyler Smith.

This year's draft? Again, the team stayed put at number 26 and drafted Mazi Smith. Will Levis had a first round draft grade but slipped to second round. Levis was both available at #26 and could have been serious sought after with a trade down pick package. None of that happened.

This team's owner did not want Prescott gone. He does not use a sledgehammer in the fashion of other owners, or even a board of directors. Making a post draft trade for a former first-round pick, subsequently demoted to third string, who Jones could have gone hog wild and gotten already years before but choose to use a fourth round pick recently, is a weak example of 'wanting Prescott gone'.

Perhaps Jones will make another move in the future fitting that assumption much better but that remains a big if until it actually happens.
 

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There will be enough money/cap space for any player the Dallas Cowboys want to retain. The “talk” we hear about cap space is almost exclusively coming from SJ and JJ as part of their public (and ineffective) contract negotiations with the guys they’re going to sign anyway for probably more than they say they can afford.

I stopped worrying about the cap after watching the rams, bucs and the e-girls see us talk about the cap and its restrictions and then say “hold my beer” while they signed whoever they wanted to keep. Salary cap talk is always coming from someone named Jones in a way that wants fans to think we can’t afford what we can.

Salary cap? Meh.
 

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I mean its on loop here so I'm sure they have seen it, it hits 90% of the Dak threads... some on this forum are not known for thier "Originality" of course Dak's agent can just show Jerry the loop of Dak beating Herbert who just got Brink truck paid and that video is actually recent..
Ewwww…send me to the burn unit.
 

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Contract leverage may be a by-product of this trade but it's only leverage if Trey Lance actually plays early and impresses. That's a gamble. If Trey looks bad then it's contract leverage in the opposite direction.

Trey Lance is an attempt to address the future with a player that has great potential but needs development. His time in San Fran proved that. They threw him out there way too early.

Jerry might try to use his name for leverage but it's a bluff. Again, this trade was entirely an investment in the future.
 

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Title of article should have been “ Dak was about to have Jerry in checkmate and, Jerry KNEW it.
 

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This is exactly why I'm not on Team Dak. It's never been about his play (which hasn't been at at elite level if we're being honest), but mostly about getting paid what he hasn't earned. If you want top dollar you need to go out and start producing more than regular season stats. Stop leading the league in INT's. Stop crapping the bed in the post season.

Burrow is 5-2 in the post season and has a super bowl on his resume. What has Dak accomplished in the post season? Oh yeah, he was able to finally get past a poor team that had a 46 year old QB and shouldn't have even made the playoffs. Bravo for Dak.
no one ever claims Dak is elite. so what I hear is complaints about Dak is not elite....
right now, 11 QBs make 40M more. 17 make 30M or more. I don't imagine over the next 6 years 17 QBs are going to win the superbowl. nor 11 who are making 40M or more. this is not about Dak, its about 11 QBs who are making 11M or more.
its the QB market. it keeps going up. it will go up even more, with 60M per year average on the horizon for somebody.

and Dak led in interceptions last year. not prior 6. was it an anamoly? or is this the new trend. lets wait and see.

Burrow swas the first pick of the draft. consensus can't miss prospect. complaining why Dak or any other QB are not Burrows is meaningless. there is at most 3 Elite QBs in the league right now.
 

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There will be enough money/cap space for any player the Dallas Cowboys want to retain. The “talk” we hear about cap space is almost exclusively coming from SJ and JJ as part of their public (and ineffective) contract negotiations with the guys they’re going to sign anyway for probably more than they say they can afford.

I stopped worrying about the cap after watching the rams, bucs and the e-girls see us talk about the cap and its restrictions and then say “hold my beer” while they signed whoever they wanted to keep. Salary cap talk is always coming from someone named Jones in a way that wants fans to think we can’t afford what we can.

Salary cap? Meh.
so far we signed Steele, gave more money to Martin and signed Diggs. and all I heard it would be impossible to sign anyone. still have about 9M left on the cap.

we are talking to Lamb in preparation for talking to Parsons.
 

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The media talking about Dak having all the leverage is just the kind of thing to spur Jerry to prove them wrong.
Leverage between Dak and Jerry belongs to the one who is most comfortable with staying with the current contract as is.
 

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Not saying I want this but if he were to be cut or not resigned, what is the dead weight of his contract moving forward? I’m starting to get worried about keeping Micah. With the Bosa signing and the Burrow signing I don’t know if we can keep Parsons, and CD and Dak. I think you keep a generational player in Parsons over an above average player in Dak. So my question is, is it either or at that point?
If the powers that be decide Dak won't progress the team...then either way is a wash.

Best thing to do then, is start working the problem as soon as possible.
 

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Dak does not have Jerry in checkmate. The injured OL that Jerry has failed to properly reinforce (perhaps by design), will get Dak hurt and Wally Pipp'd... Enter the New Kid in Town. :omg:
 

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I'm not even sure how it would be check mate as Jerry is the one making the plans, NOW if Jerry didnt see how this contract would need to be worked when he wrote it then thats not checkmate thats just not smart.
 

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If Dak kicks a?? out there this year or rather in January then get him whatever he wants. If not send him packing.

So easy.

Now let them play some football. :flagwave:
 

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"The problem traces to the Cowboys failing and refusing to reward the 2016 fourth-round draft pick after he became eligible for a second contract, following his third season. They retained him in 2019 at a bargain-basement price, before using the franchise tag in 2020"

Absolutely false.

How does this myth just keep going and going and going.
Absolutely True How do you not see something that happened ?

Here it is in Black and white
 
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Absolutely True How do you not see something that happened ?
Vtwin said:
"The problem traces to the Cowboys failing and refusing to reward the 2016 fourth-round draft pick after he became eligible for a second contract, following his third season. They retained him in 2019 at a bargain-basement price, before using the franchise tag in 2020"

Absolutely false.

How does this myth just keep going and going and going.

2016
Player Cash Earnings
$450,000$383,393----$343,544$1,176,937
2017
Player Cash Earnings
$540,000-----$401,006$941,006
2018
Player Cash Earnings
$630,000------$630,000
2019
Player Cash Earnings
$2,025,000-----$130,229$2,155,229
2020
Player Cash Earnings
$31,409,000-----$5,653$31,414,653
2021
Player Cash Earnings
$2,750,000$66,000,000--$6,250,000--$75,000,000
2022
Player Cash Earnings
$1,600,000---$18,400,000--$20,000,000
2023
Player Cash Earnings
$1,700,000---$29,300,000--$31,000,000
8 seasons$41,104,000$66,383,393--$53,950,000-$880,432$162,317,825
 

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After the Borrow's contract we are in deep doo doo.
Dak is going to want at least 50m a year.
We got Parson's and Lamb's contracts coming up.
Better hope Cap boy brings his A game.
Dak is supposed to have 40mil aav. Hes at around 25mil aav in what they've paid him. Which will again be around 30-35 mil in 2024 when they restructure and extend him. Taking probably around 25 of that 29mil base salary and turn it into a sb on the next deal. They did this with Romo his whole career. Some of you make too much of a deal about daks deals, never once have his deals affected the team, just like romos never did.
 

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Vtwin said:
"The problem traces to the Cowboys failing and refusing to reward the 2016 fourth-round draft pick after he became eligible for a second contract, following his third season. They retained him in 2019 at a bargain-basement price, before using the franchise tag in 2020"

Absolutely false.

How does this myth just keep going and going and going.

2016
Player Cash Earnings
$450,000$383,393----$343,544$1,176,937
2017
Player Cash Earnings
$540,000-----$401,006$941,006
2018
Player Cash Earnings
$630,000------$630,000
2019
Player Cash Earnings
$2,025,000-----$130,229$2,155,229
2020
Player Cash Earnings
$31,409,000-----$5,653$31,414,653
2021
Player Cash Earnings
$2,750,000$66,000,000--$6,250,000--$75,000,000
2022
Player Cash Earnings
$1,600,000---$18,400,000--$20,000,000
2023
Player Cash Earnings
$1,700,000---$29,300,000--$31,000,000
8 seasons$41,104,000$66,383,393--$53,950,000-$880,432$162,317,825
They did deal with him and it's been reported many times that they had a deal in place 3 times and his agent after agreeing with the team upped the price.
 
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