News: PFT: Ezekiel Elliott’s Texas lawsuit “not over” yet

[diefree666]

The NFLPA is using this kid. The NFLPA should have made this fight before they ever signed the last agreement. They agreed to give up the power in exchange for the money. The NFLPA can shut up and take it as far as I am concerned. The time to do the right thing was before they signed the CBA and took the money. This is a Day late and a dollar short IMO. They sold the players out on this deal and that's on them. Elliott is just the latest vic, to me. They should have taken care of the players before this but they didn't. They took the money.

Using this kid. How about the fact that the NFL has labled him a woman beater without any ACTUAL LEGAL EVIDENCE. If you cannot see that for Zeke this goes far beyond the NFL then maybe you need to think about WHY you want this over.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I agree with this.

Justice takes precedence over arbitrary legal proceedings and being sold out by people who were supposed to have had your back initially, none of which Zeke had any say in the matter. He was in his teens when it happened. It is his reputation and ability to make money on the line. This is a "might makes right" enforcement by the NFL, not a case of something wrong ever actually happening, and it cross cuts legal boundaries while ignoring legalities just "because" of the former. It's insincere BS.

I will tell you, I agree with a lot of this. He wasn't around when the deal got signed but he did sign up for the deal. He did that when he signed his NFL contract so I really don't have a great deal of pity for him there. Yeah, he wasn't in the league but he did agree to live by the terms that existed when he joined. Teamsters, Iron Workers, Auto Workers, they all have to do the same thing. You get a job, you join a Union and you live by the Ts and Cs that exist when you join. Once you are in, you can vote on whatever you want, once your turn comes.

Justice hardly ever takes precedence IMO. Legal takes precedence and that's not Justice, a lot of the time.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Using this kid. How about the fact that the NFL has labled him a woman beater without any ACTUAL LEGAL EVIDENCE. If you cannot see that for Zeke this goes far beyond the NFL then maybe you need to think about WHY you want this over.

How about it? The one that can't see are you guys, who continue to push this. Nobody said it was right or whatever. What we said was this is how it is. This is what the NFLPA signed you guys up for. Don't cry about it now. Your time to cry was before this deal got signed.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

He has to fight. He will fight and in the end he's going to lose. That's just the way it is.

 

[TheDude]

It's over. If you want to "nut up" then you go do that. But you posting on a message board is not nutting up. That's talking about somebody else's life. It's the opposite of nutting up actually.

This is not about what who did or didn't do. This is about what is and the sooner Elliott comes to terms with that, the better off he will be IMO. Fight the system, that's what you should so right?

Whatever... this thing is done IMO and all the emojis in the world aren't going to change that IMO.

Was it over when the Germans bombed pearl harbor?

Lets GO!!!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Was it over when the Germans bombed pearl hatbor?

Lets GO!!!

Haha!!! My man...... I didn't know there were any other John Belushi 1941 fans still out there. Nice Bro!

 

[SultanOfSix]

I will tell you, I agree with a lot of this. He wasn't around when the deal got signed but he did sign up for the deal. He did that when he signed his NFL contract so I really don't have a great deal of pity for him there. Yeah, he wasn't in the league but he did agree to live by the terms that existed when he joined.

The problem is, most of the NFL players don't know about all of this legal mumbo jumbo. Even intelligent people who don't have careers in the law and can somewhat follow the issue still don't know enough about all of the legal wrangling that happens. It's not even remotely fair to expect a professional athlete who has been living on his athletic ability for most of his life to know even ten percent of this stuff. It's just the way it is. There is simply no way anyone can prevent themselves from falsely being accused for DV. Yeah, he can make better judgments about the women he's around, but that's just effectively blaming the victim, assuming Zeke is the victim here. He shouldn't be held accountable for that, just like women shouldn't be held accountable for walking in a dark alley and being raped. He's being made an example of because of past NFL poor judgement on DV issues, and that isn't just to him.

 

[Risen Star]

Plus the fact that if he is "accused" again, right or wrong, he will be banned for life.

You're right but that doesn't matter. He can't win here. He will serve the suspension eventually. That's the thing. So do what's best for the Cowboys and make sure this doesn't bleed into next season.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

He has to fight. He will fight and in the end he's going to lose. That's just the way it is.

This is probably the truest statement that has been said about this, in any thread. At least it's honest.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The problem is, most of the NFL players don't know about all of this legal mumbo jumbo. Even intelligent people who don't have careers in the law and can somewhat follow the issue still don't know enough about all of the legal wrangling that happens. It's not even remotely fair to expect a professional athlete who has been living on his athletic ability for most of his life to know even ten percent of this stuff. It's just the way it is. There is simply no way anyone can prevent themselves from falsely being accused for DV. Yeah, he can make better judgments about the women he's around, but that's just effectively blaming the victim, assuming Zeke is the victim here. He shouldn't be held accountable for that, just like women shouldn't be held accountable for walking in a dark alley and being raped. He's being made an example of because of past NFL poor judgement on DV issues, and that isn't just to him.

There is a difference between being innocent and not being able to prove, according to the standards of the law. Nobody involved is completely innocent here. Everybody is complicit, to a certain extent.

That's how I see it.

 

[Floatyworm]

It's over. If you want to "nut up" then you go do that. But you posting on a message board is not nutting up. That's talking about somebody else's life. It's the opposite of nutting up actually.

This is not about what who did or didn't do. This is about what is and the sooner Elliott comes to terms with that, the better off he will be IMO. Fight the system, that's what you should so right?

Whatever... this thing is done IMO and all the emojis in the world aren't going to change that IMO.

When the system is wrong..hell yes you fight. And that is what is wrong..we have a team full of heartless people. When It's time to put up or shut up...we got a culture of babies.

 

[pugilist]

as long as this ends somehow with Goodell and Friel testifying under oath, I couldn't care less when / if Zeke serves his suspension

i want both of those scumbags gone

 

[Gameover]

Get McFadden on the field regardless

We need a change of pace and that receiving threat out the backfield

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

When the system is wrong..hell yes you fight. And that is what is wrong..we have a team full of heartless people. When It's time to put up or shut up...we got a culture of babies.

Cry yourself to sleep. It is what it is and they voted for it. Lots of stuff are wrong with life and most of it is out of my control but you know what, I gotta man up and deal with it. Lots of it aint right but I have a family, I have responsibilities and those are more important, to me. Lots of stuff, every day, happens that isn't right. People deal with it and move on and that's how it is. You can like it or not. Go try and change it, that's fine, but don't rail on everybody else who isn't wasting time, protesting about things that don't pay the bills. Things that aren't going to change and will likely fail. Things that, if you really look close, aren't as black and white as they are made out to be.

He can do the right thing, the thing that is best for his personal situation and move on or he can rail at the system. Either way, it's going to come down to the same thing. He's going to serve a suspension and it can be sooner or it can be later, but it's going to happen and that's just how it's going to work. Tell me I'm wrong again. Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong........

 

[RJ_MacReady]

When it's all said and done (suspension/no suspension), if he truly didn't do what she professed that he did.....he should sue the ever living crap out of that Woman.

 

[black label]

 

[SultanOfSix]

There is a difference between being innocent and not being able to prove, according to the standards of the law. Nobody involved is completely innocent here. Everybody is complicit, to a certain extent.

That's how I see it.

It depends upon what they are complicit in. That's the issue here. Is a women who walks down a dark alley at night that is raped therein complicit in her rape? Absolutely not. She's only complicit in not understanding her environment in order to make a better choice of not walking down that dark alley.

Presuming Zeke is innocent, the same analogy applies here to Zeke. Is he complicit in being falsely accused of DV? Absolutely not. He's only complicit in making a choice of being with a gold-digging woman who could allege such when he decided to break up with her.

If the latter is what the NFL is basing it on, then fine. He can be suspended for that. But we all know the NFL isn't basing it on that, because they would find themselves in the problematic area of handling personal relationship morality. They are basing it on alleged DV that could never hold up in a court of law (cross cutting legality here) but ignoring such, dismissing evidence by people who they hired to assess whether the alleged victim was credible or not, and they are choosing to believe the latter at the player's own detriment because public perception with respect DV issues is affecting the bottom line.

 

[cowboy_ron]

Take the suspension and get it over with.....he's only a shell of the player he was last year, as is the OL......take the suspension, get your head clear from that mess, get in playing shape, and prove to your teamates and fanbase that you want more than one year in this league.
Man up Zeke and act like you appreciate this once in a lifetime opportunity as an NFL player.

 

[mahoneybill]

Indeed, there are still legal avenues to pursue should Zeke choose to do it. But it still feels like he's going to be suspended regardless, and it's just a question of when it happens. Fair or not, the NFL has a lot of leeway when it comes to the disciplinary process.

And therein lies the problem. When i discuss this with non football fans there first reaction is

how can the local court system not press charges, but the league can find him guilty ?

how can the person who was hired to investigate the charges by the league take a position that theres no basis and the league ignores that ?

how can he regain his " character" when he is now branded, due to the unilateral power of the commission, as an abuser....?

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I for one agree with all of these, but have to say it's a poor agreement between the players and the league to appoint someone judge, jury, and executioner........

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That said I also think theres some payback to Jerry Jones for putting the league into a " crawdad position" on the national anthem..

( crawdads scurry backwards for cover once the rock they have been hiding under is exposed )

 

[mahoneybill]

I agree with this.

Justice takes precedence over arbitrary legal proceedings and being sold out by people who were supposed to initially have your back, which Zeke obviously never had a say in. He was in his teens when it happened. It is his reputation and ability to make money on the line. The possibility of a lifetime ban based on something that never was charged? What kind of BS is that? This is a "might makes right" enforcement by the NFL, not a case of something wrong ever actually happening, and it cross cuts legal boundaries while ignoring legalities just "because" of the former. It's insincere BS.

Well stated