News: PFT: Ezekiel Elliott’s Texas lawsuit “not over” yet

[ABQCOWBOY]

Haha! Another one.

"Remember Danforth? He wore this black headband and I took one of those magic markers and I said to Feron, "Hey mail us to Las Vegas" cause we were always talking about Vegas, and this ******* car. This uh red '58 Chevy convertible, he was talking about this car, he said we were gonna cruise till the tires fall off ..."

 

[mahoneybill]

I don't disagree with your assertion that the NFL will ultimately win their case. If we think from Zeke's pov, though, he cares more about clearing his name than if the suspension is served this or next season. I don't see him looking at the team and coordinating his suspension based upon his chances of having a better team next year.

If I were Zeke and had NFLPA leading the charge, I take this as far as I can legally before I give up.

Agree. Your reputation is like virginity.... you only lose it once, and can't get it back......

 

[gmoney112]

Only a self defeating shell of a man would just accept this and move on. Push it in court, if for no other reason than to bring all the lack of evidence back up to the light. Isn't Goodells contract thinking of being resigned? Thats worth it by itself.

There are two types of men in this world, those who try and do the right thing even when it's not convenient, and those who make excuses.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It depends upon what they are complicit in. That's the issue here. Is a women who walks down a dark alley at night that is raped therein complicit in her rape? Absolutely not. She's only complicit in not understanding her environment in order to make a better choice of not walking down that dark alley.

Presuming Zeke is innocent, the same analogy applies here to Zeke. Is he complicit in being falsely accused of DV? Absolutely not. He's only complicit in making a choice of being with a gold-digging woman who could allege such when he decided to break up with her.

If the latter is what the NFL is basing it on, then fine. He can be suspended for that. But we all know the NFL isn't basing it on that, because they would find themselves in the problematic area of handling personal relationship morality. They are basing it on alleged DV that could never hold up in a court of law (cross cutting legality here) but ignoring such, dismissing evidence by people who they hired to assess whether the alleged victim was credible or not, and they are choosing to believe the latter at the player's own detriment because public perception with respect DV issues is affecting the bottom line.

Yeah, lets don't try to paint Elliott as a women walking down a dark ally and getting rapped. I mean, that's just insulting peoples intelligence right?

They are all complicit. The NFL because they are not consistent in there punishments and process for these kinds of things. The Union because they are supposed to be doing something for the stupid amounts of money they are making off the players and by "something", I don't mean allowing them to sign a deal that pretty much forces them to give up some important rights, in exchange for money, and by money, I mean money that is going to them and not just the players. The players are complicit because everybody tried to tell them that this was a mistake. There own reps tried to tell them. The press tried to tell them. The fans tried to tell them and they didn't listen so they are not innocent in this either. They went for the money. Elliott isn't innocent because we all saw the stupid crap he was doing the whole way. He didn't listen and instead, he believed (I can only assume) as you do. He believed that this whole PC thing would protect him and it didn't. He acted like an idiot and now, he's going to have to serve a suspension. All are guilty to a certain extent and Zeke is not an exception. He wouldn't be here if he were not at fault, to some extent.

 

[Clarkson]

I don't agree. This should have been all about the team from the get go but, it wasn't. Now, the team will have to pay for it.

That's how I see it.

ok if you're accused of DV and deemed guilty then i hope you just accept it and move on, despite reputation.

this is so dumb. he has every right to fight to clear his name of something so bad.

 

[JoeKing]

Those saying it's over are speaking what they wish and not the reality of the situation. It's not over until it's over.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

ok if you're accused of DV and deemed guilty then i hope you just accept it and move on, despite reputation.

this is so dumb. he has every right to fight to clear his name of something so bad.

Well, if I'm pulling womens tops down in public, if I'm hanging out with professionals, if I'm going to bars and getting accused of punching people out, if I have a reputation of DV, going back to High School, if I'm doing all of this and more, then yeah, maybe I will.

Pretty easy for all of you message board hero's to say this but you aren't paying the bills on the lawyers. You aren't the ones who have to deal with the after effects of it all. You aren't the ones who are basically putting your career on the line to put up this fight. Yeah, you guys are brave.

 

[Nightman]

So wait a week and file the appeal with the CA5 for an en banc hearing or whatever it is called....it was 2-1 on the appeal and it only speaks to ripeness and not the merits

That should buy another couple weeks

If that fails then re-file in Texas and get new TRO
If that fails then ask for TRO in NY
If that fails then emergency appeal to NY Fed District Court
If that fails then appeal to CA2 for injunction
If that fails then appeal for en banc hearing with full CA2

If that fails get drunk at St Pattys Day parade
Then draft Saquon Barkley

Then throw Hail Mary and appeal to SCOTUS
If that fails take suspension in 2018

 

[Clarkson]

Well, if I'm pulling womens tops down in public, if I'm hanging out with professionals, if I'm going to bars and getting accused of punching people out, if I have a reputation of DV, going back to High School, if I'm doing all of this and more, then yeah, maybe I will.

Pretty easy for all of you message board hero's to say this but you aren't paying the bills on the lawyers. You aren't the ones who have to deal with the after effects of it all. You aren't the ones who are basically putting your career on the line to put up this fight. Yeah, you guys are brave.

This is such BS. He was proven to have absolutely no part in the bar fight thing. But you'll bring it up to throw more stuff at the wall.
Could you cite the DV going back to HS thing? I'm actually asking, I hadn't heard that.
If i were innocent of DV and deemed guilty, I'd fight it. I don't know that Zeke is innocent, but if he is, he should absolutely fight it. But yeah, you'd just take the punishment for a heinous thing that you didn't do. Right. Brave of YOU to say that when not in that situation.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Yeah, lets don't try to paint Elliott as a women walking down a dark ally and getting rapped. I mean, that's just insulting peoples intelligence right?

They are all complicit. The NFL because they are not consistent in there punishments and process for these kinds of things. The Union because they are supposed to be doing something for the stupid amounts of money they are making off the players and by "something", I don't mean allowing them to sign a deal that pretty much forces them to give up some important rights, in exchange for money, and by money, I mean money that is going to them and not just the players. The players are complicit because everybody tried to tell them that this was a mistake. There own reps tried to tell them. The press tried to tell them. The fans tried to tell them and they didn't listen so they are not innocent in this either. They went for the money. Elliott isn't innocent because we all saw the stupid crap he was doing the whole way. He didn't listen and instead, he believed (I can only assume) as you do. He believed that this whole PC thing would protect him and it didn't. He acted like an idiot and now, he's going to have to serve a suspension. All are guilty to a certain extent and Zeke is not an exception. He wouldn't be here if he were not at fault, to some extent.

I'm not comparing Elliott to a woman walking down an alley and getting raped. I am comparing the degree as to which they are complicit in the matter. Like I said, presuming Elliott's innocence, both are victims of alleged perpetrators. They are only complicit in choosing to be in a scenario that allowed them to get into such a situation.

I don't know what Elliott did or didn't listen to and what he believed or didn't believe about this PC thing protecting him or not. What I know is he didn't break the law and he was never charged for it. That should be sufficient to dismissing anything related a claim of suspension based on DV. If you remove the foundation, everything falls.

 

[Philmonroe]

Take the suspension and get it over with.....he's only a shell of the player he was last year, as is the OL......take the suspension, get your head clear from that mess, get in playing shape, and prove to your teamates and fanbase that you want more than one year in this league.
Man up Zeke and act like you appreciate this once in a lifetime opportunity as an NFL player.

Prove to fanbase lol. Speak for yourself I'm not run by emotions like most are. There isn't nothing to prove on the field. Stop being jealous of his success

 

[Nightman]

Pretty easy for all of you message board hero's to say this but you aren't paying the bills on the lawyers. You aren't the ones who have to deal with the after effects of it all. You aren't the ones who are basically putting your career on the line to put up this fight. Yeah, you guys are brave.

One thing people forget is that if he is suspended this year he loses 600k but his guarantees are wiped for the remaining 6.5m

If he is suspended next year he loses 1m but he gets the 2.7m for 2018 guaranteed... the 3.8m for 2019 would not be guaranteed

The NFLPA better pay for his lawyers or disband....... if they can do this to Brady and Zeke they will do it to everyone

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

This is such BS. He was proven to have absolutely no part in the bar fight thing. But you'll bring it up to throw more stuff at the wall.
Could you cite the DV going back to HS thing? I'm actually asking, I hadn't heard that.
If i were innocent of DV and deemed guilty, I'd fight it. I don't know that Zeke is innocent, but if he is, he should absolutely fight it. But yeah, you'd just take the punishment for a heinous thing that you didn't do. Right. Brave of YOU to say that when not in that situation.

Yep, it's all BS but, it's still the truth. You guys look at this and say, there is no proof. Well, it's the NFL, the standards are different and you don't have to like it, you just need to understand that what I'm saying is true. Wake up and smell the coffee. I didn't vote for this clown show, the players did. The Union allowed it. They did it to themselves and lots of people, including me, tired to point this out during the last CBA discussion. They didn't listen so tell your BS sob story walking. They did it to themselves.

 

[cowboyblue22]

Was it over when the Germans bombed pearl harbor?

Lets GO!!!

it wasn't the german that bombed pearl harbor it was the japanese

 

[Philmonroe]

Well, if I'm pulling womens tops down in public, if I'm hanging out with professionals, if I'm going to bars and getting accused of punching people out, if I have a reputation of DV, going back to High School, if I'm doing all of this and more, then yeah, maybe I will.

Pretty easy for all of you message board hero's to say this but you aren't paying the bills on the lawyers. You aren't the ones who have to deal with the after effects of it all. You aren't the ones who are basically putting your career on the line to put up this fight. Yeah, you guys are brave.

Well let's be honest people like you ime don't ever have the opportunity to pull down women's tops even if you wanted to so its easy to say what you wouldn't do when you'll never even have the chance to be in that situation. You're also a liar you wouldn't just take the punishment but as online lying logic dictates people overwhelmingly have this urge to be saw as some super person that does all the sounds good things. Who claimed anyone was brave? Exaggerations will get you no where

 

[Nightman]

I don't know what Elliott did or didn't listen to and what he believed or didn't believe about this PC thing protecting him or not. What I know is he didn't break the law and he was never charged for it. That should be sufficient to dismissing anything related a claim of suspension based on DV. If you remove the foundation, everything falls.

A prostitute can still get raped

Even if Zeke showed bad judgement it doesn't equate to the punishment he received or the Scarlett Letter of DV

The fans who are sick of this story should put themselves in his shoes and imagine of being wrongly accused but being told to accept it because some fans are bored with the story and it is distracting them

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'm not comparing Elliott to a woman walking down an alley and getting raped. I am comparing the degree as to which they are complicit in the matter. Like I said, presuming Elliott's innocence, both are victims of alleged perpetrators. They are only complicit in choosing to be in a scenario that allowed them to get into such a situation.

I don't know what Elliott did or didn't listen to and what he believed or didn't believe about this PC thing protecting him or not. What I know is he didn't break the law and he was never charged for it. That should be sufficient to dismissing anything related a claim of suspension based on DV. If you remove the foundation, everything falls.

Sultan, it doesn't matter. The real question is, and always has been, does the NFL have the authority? The answer to that question, and I'm more convinced now then before, is yes. It's going to happen and all the nashing of teeth and pounding of fist are not going to change it. T

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Well let's be honest people like you ime don't ever have the opportunity to pull down women's tops even if you wanted to so its easy to say what you wouldn't do when you'll never even have the chance to be in that situation. You're also a liar you wouldn't just take the punishment but as online lying logic dictates people overwhelmingly have this urge to be saw as some super person that does all the sounds good things. Who claimed anyone was brave? Exaggerations will get you no where

Oh, I would not say that. I can't speak for you but I can for me. I don't do that, and not because I don't have opportunity but, because I wasn't raised that way. It's a choice and it's the choice I have made in my life. So tell me, who's lying here? The truth of the matter is that I would never be in that situation because it's not who I am. But I do agree with you on one thing, exaggerations aren't going to get you anywhere here Phil.

 

[TheHerd]

I seriously doubt the 5th will grant a rehearing on a jurisdictional question. Zeke needs to focus on getting a TI in New York.

A southerner getting a favorable ruling against the NFL in a New York court! That's a good one.

 

[Kaiser]

Zeke isn't going to serve a suspension this year, there are a lot of moves that his legal team and the NFLPA can make. He may serve something next year, but the real legal battle will take place after the season.

Jerry and the NFLPA went to war, they may have lost one battle but its far from over.