News: PFT: Ezekiel Elliott’s Texas lawsuit “not over” yet

Kaiser

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A southerner getting a favorable ruling against the NFL in a New York court! That's a good one.

Zeke isn't the one in the Court House, a team of lawyers that bill $1500 per hour will.

The hearing won't look like this:

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It will actually look like this:


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One thing people forget is that if he is suspended this year he loses 600k but his guarantees are wiped for the remaining 6.5m

If he is suspended next year he loses 1m but he gets the 2.7m for 2018 guaranteed... the 3.8m for 2019 would not be guaranteed

The NFLPA better pay for his lawyers or disband....... if they can do this to Brady and Zeke they will do it to everyone

This is actually the first argument that I have heard that makes any sense. Now, that would really suck for the team because that probably screws another season for us but hay, at least the line of thought here is cogent. I applaud you for that Nightman.
 

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Oh, I would not say that. I can't speak for you but I can for me. I don't do that, and not because I don't have opportunity but, because I wasn't raised that way. It's a choice and it's the choice I have made in my life. So tell me, who's lying here? The truth of the matter is that I would never be in that situation because it's not who I am. But I do agree with you on one thing, exaggerations aren't going to get you anywhere here Phil.
I believe you don't have the opportunity and that's before you were married, in a relationship, etc if you are in one. Its really no need to go back and forth on it though so we can just agree to disagree on that. Ime the people who say they were raised that way are either religious people (nothing wrong with that) and or aren't able to do that type stuff even if they wanted to so they say they didn't want to which I just don't believe. As far as who's lying obviously I think its you lol. The people who can do these things esp when younger do do these things except for a few exceptions. I don't exaggerate there is no need to but yes they won't get people far. Glad there is something we can agree on
 

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THIS.

I WONDER WHY SO MANY HERE IGNORE THAT LITTLE THING.

From so called experts to MODS to too many others here whining about taking your medicine and shutting up.

This is WAY beyond the NFL now. If I were Zeke I would fight this every inch of the way if it takes ten YEARS.

The NFL labeled Ezekiel Elliot A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CRIMINAL when the LEGAL SYSTEM DID NOT EVEN FILE CHARGES.

Those wanting him to shelve this CARE NOTHING ABOUT what is RIGHT and what is WRONG.

The KANGAROO COURT of the NFL should NEVER be allowed to get away with it.

Yes, even if he eventually loses in regards to the suspension, he should go after them for Libel.
 

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It's over in the minds of Cowboys fans who are not happy with how the season has went and who want to GIVE UP because we are 2-3!!!
 

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I believe you don't have the opportunity and that's before you were married, in a relationship, etc if you are in one. Its really no need to go back and forth on it though so we can just agree to disagree on that. Ime the people who say they were raised that way are either religious people (nothing wrong with that) and or aren't able to do that type stuff even if they wanted to so they say they didn't want to which I just don't believe. As far as who's lying obviously I think its you lol. The people who can do these things esp when younger do do these things except for a few exceptions. I don't exaggerate there is no need to but yes they won't get people far. Glad there is something we can agree on

Believe what you want. I've told you the truth, you can shape this to fit your own narrative. I am married and have been for a lot of years now so it's true, those days have passed me now, by choice but it doesn't mean that I, or anybody, could not find them again if that was the choice a person decided to make. I don't know if I am religious, I guess I probably am, more so then a lot of others but there are plenty who are more so, then I.

When I was young, I had plenty of opportunities to behave poorly. There were even times I did do stupid stuff but not so much with women. You know, there are parents and families who teach kids how to respect women. There are those people out there and you don't have to believe it but it does happen. I was not raised to subjugate and disrespect women and make no mistake, that's exactly what all of that type of behavior is. There are those who will say that they are Professionals and so that's what they get but to me, it doesn't matter. They may choose that but it doesn't mean I have to choose that. I can choose to go another way and I believe that I have done that for most of my life.

You can believe it or not, doesn't matter to me but like this situation with the NFL and Zeke, it is what it is, believe it or not, an all the BS in the world won't change it.
 

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Zeke isn't going to serve a suspension this year, there are a lot of moves that his legal team and the NFLPA can make. He may serve something next year, but the real legal battle will take place after the season.

Jerry and the NFLPA went to war, they may have lost one battle but its far from over.

as a fan i want this over with but it’s not my name that’s being drug through the mud and labeled a woman beater.

i’ve come to grips that this young man has to fight for his name. he may lose. but no way in hell should he settle to serve his suspension. exhaust all your opitions and go down swinging.

it’s not ideal for dallas but in all honesty zeke should not care.
 

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Totally agree. He should have just taken the punishment from the start. He would be one game away from getting this behind him. He needs to serve the suspension this year, which for all intense and purposes is over unless we miraculously become a wild card team. In any event, this knucklehead needs to put on his big boy pants on and grow up or get out. He also needs to lose a couple of lbs.

.....and cover up that fat belly.
 

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Yes, even if he eventually loses in regards to the suspension, he should go after them for Libel.

You have to prove Intent to win on Libel, that would be very hard in this case. The NFLPA has a winning hand already on the current case.
 

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How about it? The one that can't see are you guys, who continue to push this. Nobody said it was right or whatever. What we said was this is how it is. This is what the NFLPA signed you guys up for. Don't cry about it now. Your time to cry was before this deal got signed.

No. They didn't sign up for this DV suspension part. The Czar added that all on his own. And that is exactly what the Zeke suspension says. Not conduct detrimental, not anything short of woman abuser.

And the standard to this point has been that short of criminal charges/convictions, the league needs to show "credible evidence."

Nothing which has come out so far looks like credible evidence to anyone but the haters.

The league could have slapped him for 4 games for all the incidents together and had no issues. But they had to get the DV pc police at bay.

I'll keep bringing up my own rep's statements about revisiting the anti-trust exemption at the last DV hearing after the Rice incident. I'm pretty convinced that is playing a part in all of this. The anti-trust exemption, along with the joke of having the NFL be a non-profit, is worth billions.
 

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you don't know what the "truth" of your situation is because it's hypothetical and impossible to say.

No. The NFL has suspended him, that's the truth. It's not a hypothetical, it's not supposition. Those are, infact, the facts. It's not impossible at all because that's what has happened.
 

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Just get it over with...

NFL will eventually get their way.
 

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No. They didn't sign up for this DV suspension part. The Czar added that all on his own. And that is exactly what the Zeke suspension says. Not conduct detrimental, not anything short of woman abuser.

And the standard to this point has been that short of criminal charges/convictions, the league needs to show "credible evidence."

Nothing which has come out so far looks like credible evidence to anyone but the haters.

The league could have slapped him for 4 games for all the incidents together and had no issues. But they had to get the DV pc police at bay.

I'll keep bringing up my own rep's statements about revisiting the anti-trust exemption at the last DV hearing after the Rice incident. I'm pretty convinced that is playing a part in all of this. The anti-trust exemption, along with the joke of having the NFL be a non-profit, is worth billions.

They gave up the power that would allow for this situation to happen. That's the truth of it, like it or not.
 

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Believe what you want. I've told you the truth, you can shape this to fit your own narrative. I am married and have been for a lot of years now so it's true, those days have passed me now, by choice but it doesn't mean that I, or anybody, could not find them again if that was the choice a person decided to make. I don't know if I am religious, I guess I probably am, more so then a lot of others but there are plenty who are more so, then I.

When I was young, I had plenty of opportunities to behave poorly. There were even times I did do stupid stuff but not so much with women. You know, there are parents and families who teach kids how to respect women. There are those people out there and you don't have to believe it but it does happen. I was not raised to subjugate and disrespect women and make no mistake, that's exactly what all of that type of behavior is. There are those who will say that they are Professionals and so that's what they get but to me, it doesn't matter. They may choose that but it doesn't mean I have to choose that. I can choose to go another way and I believe that I have done that for most of my life.

You can believe it or not, doesn't matter to me but like this situation with the NFL and Zeke, it is what it is, believe it or not, an all the BS in the world won't change it.
you don't know what the "truth" of your situation is because it's hypothetical and impossible to say.

You guys are just hanging curves today

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Believe what you want. I've told you the truth, you can shape this to fit your own narrative. I am married and have been for a lot of years now so it's true, those days have passed me now, by choice but it doesn't mean that I, or anybody, could not find them again if that was the choice a person decided to make. I don't know if I am religious, I guess I probably am, more so then a lot of others but there are plenty who are more so, then I.

When I was young, I had plenty of opportunities to behave poorly. There were even times I did do stupid stuff but not so much with women. You know, there are parents and families who teach kids how to respect women. There are those people out there and you don't have to believe it but it does happen. I was not raised to subjugate and disrespect women and make no mistake, that's exactly what all of that type of behavior is. There are those who will say that they are Professionals and so that's what they get but to me, it doesn't matter. They may choose that but it doesn't mean I have to choose that. I can choose to go another way and I believe that I have done that for most of my life.

You can believe it or not, doesn't matter to me but like this situation with the NFL and Zeke, it is what it is, believe it or not, an all the BS in the world won't change it.
I told you already I was going to believe what I want. Thanks I guess for telling me what I already told you. Some people can't find them but you keep believing that you could if it makes you feel better.

Respect women? Please doing something a woman is ok with isn't disrespecting them. You people that tell women what is and isn't respect based off your own views are the disrespectful ones. It always seems to be the people trying to be more moral with this I respect women junk. You have no monopoly on it so don't know why you're making it seem like that's not the norm anyway. Again just because you don't do something doesn't make it wrong and that's what people have to understand.

As far as Zeke he probably going to serve the suspension but he has to keep fighting just in case he can get off. I just laugh at people acting like they have some greater moral than others when at the end of the day we are all mostly looked at by those that knows as the same decent people. Guess the Internet has some overvaluing themselves and their morality.
 

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You have to prove Intent to win on Libel, that would be very hard in this case. The NFLPA has a winning hand already on the current case.

He can easily prove that it damaged him financially. They made those statements clearly knowing that he had been cleared legally and that their own investigator didn't believe the accuser. Their statements were clearly intended to disparage him with no basis for saying it.
 
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