PFT: Favre Already Under Contract With Vikings?

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Hostile;2818052 said:
I'm the only person in this forum who is happy about this. I like the guy and enjoy watching him play.

He's still better than 15 starting QBs in the league today.

He will be in a comfortable dome for 8 games, handing to the best RB in football. That defense isn't too shabby in Minny and Favre will get the opportunity to see his old mates twice. Makes sense to me.
 

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Hoofbite;2818227 said:
Why would the Vikings keep a big secret like this?

It wouldn't just be keeping a secret, it would be violating the CBA.
 

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AdamJT13;2818253 said:
It wouldn't just be keeping a secret, it would be violating the CBA.
Florio covered that in his follow-up posts.
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Cook Claims No Deal In Place For Favre
Posted by Mike Florio on June 21, 2009, 5:23 p.m.

The guys at the St. Paul Pioneer Press, responding to our recent blurb regarding a certain gray-headed quarterback and a certain purple-helmeted team, asked agent Bus Cook to address whether Brett Favre is under contract with the Vikings.

And, of course, Bus Cook denied it.

(As they say, “He who denied it, supplied it.”)

“No contract” was Cook’s message to Rick Alonzo of the Pioneer Press.

It might matter to us if Cook (or, for that matter, Favre) had any credibility when it comes to the topic of Favre’s coming and goings and leavings and returnings. Neither man has been a bastion of truth over the past two years, so we believe nothing that either of them has to say on the subject.

All we know is this. When a source in a position to know the true state of affairs was asked by us about the situation, the source declined to provide any information, adding “I will not deny it either, I will leave it at that.”

Anyone who “gets it” knows what that means.

CBA Requires Prompt Filing Of Contracts
Posted by Mike Florio on June 21, 2009, 9:21 p.m.

Assuming that the Vikings already have obtained Brett Favre’s John Henry on a player contract, they technically can’t keep it in their back pockets for very long.

Unless they’ve postdated it.

According to Article XIV, Section 5(a) of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, the Vikings would be required to submit a copy of the contract to the league’s Management Council within two days. In turn, the Management Council is required to submit the contract to the NFL Players Association within two days.

That said, the Standard Player Contract gives the teams more time to file the document. Per Paragraph 18, the contract must be filed with the Commissioner within ten days after signing.

It’s unclear whether Article XIV or the Standard Player Contract control. As a practical matter, it really doesn’t matter unless someone complains.

And the comment about postdating the deal is no joke — our guess is that, if there’s a signed deal, it reflects the date on which the Vikings and Favre have agreed to publicize the move.

If the goal is to minimize the media circus, the best time to announce the move would be the evening of Friday, July 3. Media types will be on vacation, and fewer people will be paying attention. Then, by the time things get rolling again on Monday, July 6, the news will be a bit stale.

And by the time camp opens in late July, everyone will have had a chance to get accustomed to the idea of Favre in purple.
 

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Hostile;2818052 said:
I'm the only person in this forum who is happy about this. I like the guy and enjoy watching him play.

No, you're not. I like watching the guy play too. I don't care if he keeps coming back, that's his choice and I'm fine with it. I hope he plays this year.
 

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Favre isnt much different that TO.

The approach is different. That is all.

Favre runs with a facade. TO doesnt.
Favre is a closet Diva. TO isn't.
 

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According to Article XIV, Section 5(a) of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, the Vikings would be required to submit a copy of the contract to the league’s Management Council within two days. In turn, the Management Council is required to submit the contract to the NFL Players Association within two days.

That said, the Standard Player Contract gives the teams more time to file the document. Per Paragraph 18, the contract must be filed with the Commissioner within ten days after signing.

It’s unclear whether Article XIV or the Standard Player Contract control.

Florio should know that those are two separate things. The team has two days to submit a copy to the Management Council. But it has 10 days to submit it to the Commissioner for approval. The Commissioner isn't on the Management Council.

And failing to notify within two days, or postdating the contract, would be violating the CBA.
 

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Hostile;2818052 said:
I'm the only person in this forum who is happy about this. I like the guy and enjoy watching him play.

No. You're not the only one.

Most people are annoyed by the media attention. But this isn't Favre's fault. The media decides to cover Favre. He doesn't decide to cover himself.

Also, he loves football and playing football. Once he retires, he won't ever be able to do it again. His constant vacillation is perfectly understandable, and I find myself very sympathetic towards his plight.
 

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WoodysGirl;2818001 said:
*RUMOR, Speculation, toss and see what sticks, etc*

Posted by Mike Florio on June 21, 2009, 3:10 p.m.
As we prepare to join the NBC family, we’re making a conscious effort to get back to our roots.

Sure, we spend a lot of time commenting on news either broken by others or announced by the teams or the league. But we built our following primarily because we can get stuff that others don’t have — and because we can (and will) post rumors, without adhering to the two-source nonsense that paralyzes the flow of information about sports.

We caught wind this morning of a tip from a very unusual source. A member of the military — an officer serving in Afghanistan — contacted us with two eyebrow-raising-nuggets that had made their way to him on the other side of the globe, from credible sources.

We pondered using it even without corroboration under the thinking that, if a guy in harm’s way would get a thrill by fooling us into using a Bradshaw-Is-Dead-style rumor, then we’d be glad to give him that thrill in exchange for the sacrifices he’s making for the rest of us.

Because, however, we’ll soon be working with a legitimate media organization (or, as the case may be, undermining its legitimacy), we decided to poke around a bit.

After hitting a dead end, we got in touch with a source who would know the truth. The source explained that no information could be given, adding “I will not deny it either, I will leave it at that.”

So with that extended preface (you can wake up now, by the way), let’s get to the meat.

The rumor that the source would neither confirm nor deny is that the Vikings already have signed Brett Favre, and that the team and Favre are waiting to release the news.

If accurate, this means that the Vikings have a signed contract that they have yet to submit to the league office. Setting aside for now the question of whether league rules permit such tactics, it puts into perspective recent developments such as Favre’s use of “we” when discussing the matter with Artie Lange’s ******, the visit by a Vikings trainer to Favre to check on his arm, and reports that coach Brad Childress wanted to see Favre participate in some of the offseason workouts.

These details all make much more sense if Favre already is a member of the team.

The other bit of information, which we also posed to the source who declined to confirm or deny the rumor, is that the Vikings already have green-lighted the production by Reebok of purple jerseys bearing the number 4 — and the five-letter name that isn’t pronounced like it’s spelled.

None of this news should be regarded as earth shattering, but it’s the clearest sign yet that, come early 2010, Favre will be conducting his third annual retirement press conference.

i will hug a dying monkey when favre is too old to hold the NFL hostage to his crap.
 

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Hostile;2818052 said:
I'm the only person in this forum who is happy about this. I like the guy and enjoy watching him play.

i love watching him play.

i hate him having to make every NFL moment about him.

if i have to choose - he can all go away.
 

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I am surprised how many people responded positively to my post.
 

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Hostile;2818287 said:
I am surprised how many people responded positively to my post.

Well, I've never liked Favre -- other than the fact that we are 9-2 against him.
 

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Hostile;2818287 said:
I am surprised how many people responded positively to my post.

hes a villain to some of my family. but those same people like the bears and vikings ( they are adopted)
 

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Hostile;2818052 said:
I'm the only person in this forum who is happy about this. I like the guy and enjoy watching him play.

Nope. Im excited to see him in purple. I think him signing with them puts them as one of the top teams in the NFC.
 

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Hostile;2818052 said:
I'm the only person in this forum who is happy about this. I like the guy and enjoy watching him play.

Nope your not the only one.;) I like him too. I know he is getting older but I still think he plays a decent game most of the time.
Besides....as long as he wants to play and can play and teams keep signing ..what difference does it make?
I know he says he is retiring every year and yada..yada..yada, but maybe he really don't want to let it go yet.
 

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I would care if Favre was setting Minny back

but they don't have anyone for the future, Tavaris Jackson is Jason Campbell-Quincy Carter-lite

and besides they are only a QB away from being a damn, good team
 

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I'd still rather rolll with Tavaris than the old guy.
 

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I think Tavaris could be a good QB if given the coaching and time and playing time. I doubt he will ever be a top 10 QB, probably not even a top 15.
 

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Dreadnought94;2818030 said:
I really don't even care anymore, he's gone a long way to ruining his once sterling legacy in my opinion.
:signmast:
 

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JVita17;2818327 said:
Nope. Im excited to see him in purple. I think him signing with them puts them as one of the top teams in the NFC.

Didnt he flat out blow the last 4 or 5 games with the Jets? Singlehandedly collapsed their season?

I am just saying... no, asking? That my recollection
 
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