PFT: Force Out, Face Mask rules changed

I don't care for the no force rule I have seen too often where a guy would have clearly landed in bounds had the defender not carried him out of bounds. As for the minor face mask rule being done away with I like it. It is nice to see a rule change that helps the defense for a change.
 
If they're not going to use a "force out" rule, they should alter the possesion rule to match college---only one foot is needed in bounds.
 
Doomsday101;2023386 said:
I don't care for the no force rule I have seen too often where a guy would have clearly landed in bounds had the defender not carried him out of bounds. As for the minor face mask rule being done away with I like it. It is nice to see a rule change that helps the defense for a change.

I can get over not having 5 yard face masks. I do think only having a 15 yard face mask is kinda crazy though. Maybe 10 and and a auto 1st.

The force out rule is just crazy imo. To many catches that players would have landed in bounds and the DB will be rewarded for giveing a shove.
 
CATCH17;2023401 said:
I can get over not having 5 yard face masks. I do think only having a 15 yard face mask is kinda crazy though. Maybe 10 and and a auto 1st.

The force out rule is just crazy imo. To many catches that players would have landed in bounds and the DB will be rewarded for giveing a shove.

I have no problem giving a 15 on an intentional face mask call. I was tired though of seeing offenses getting cheap yards because a defender touched the face mask in the process of making a tackle
 
I have to say I'm utterly shocked at all the illogical defenses of the force out rule. Rewarded for pushing a guy out of bounds? Uh, why should a receiver be rewarded for not catching a ball in bounds? Yeah a guy would catch it if not pushed out.. This is FOOTBALL..the goal of the defense is to tackle you or push you out of bounds..!! A defender's job is to either not let you stay in bounds or tackle you. Supporting this rule is the same as supporting a rule where if a defender hadn't tipped a ball, a pass could be ruled a completion to the receiver if it wasn't tipped. Or if a player hadn't been tackled, he would have scored. So every play would be a touchdown. Why should the defense be punished for doing his job? Why should a receiver be rewarded for the defense doing their job? Some of you act like it happens a lot, it's pretty rare that it's called but when it did I wanted to pull my hair out at such an illogical rule.

As for so many people in a row thinking that a forward pass behind the line of scrimmage should be a fumble..huh?! Why should a forward pass in ANY circumstance count as a fumble? It's not a fumble unless it's lateral or backwards..the line of scrimmage has naught to do with it.
 
CATCH17;2023401 said:
I can get over not having 5 yard face masks. I do think only having a 15 yard face mask is kinda crazy though. Maybe 10 and and a auto 1st.

I'm just interested now in seeing how many petty facemasks end up becoming 15 yard penalties under this new rule.
 
Bach;2023610 said:
I'm just interested now in seeing how many petty facemasks end up becoming 15 yard penalties under this new rule.
I usually don't agree w/ you, but this is what I was worried about when I heard of the rule change. I can just see one of our guys accidently touching a facemask and it turning into a 15 yarder.
 

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