News: PFT: NFL announces Harold Henderson will handle Ezekiel Elliott appeal

[Jenky]

There's no way it's getting knocked down to 1 or 2 games. After implementing a get tough policy on domestic violence and branding Zeke a domestic abuser, there's no way they can give him the same punishment as Ray Rice. It's all or nothing.

One game? NFL ban for alleged violence on wife draws renewed rage
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/21/us/nfl-josh-brown-suspension/index.html

A guy who admits 20 instances of DV.

 

[Daillest88]

There's no way it's getting knocked down to 1 or 2 games. After implementing a get tough policy on domestic violence and branding Zeke a domestic abuser, there's no way they can give him the same punishment as Ray Rice. It's all or nothing.

I agree. If they do 1 or 2 games they look absolutely foolish. If they knock it down to 0 they can admit they screwed up...again

 

[waldoputty]

One possible very-optimistic explanation.
NFL knows it has to do something big on DV because of pressure from women groups.
They chose a case to throw the hammer down that they know they will lose on.

They say all the inflammatory things and get lots of press interest.
Women groups are happy.
However, they lose in court etc, but they tried.

They tarnished Cowboys and Zeke, but they then have an excuse to get out of the DV business.
They should have stuck to cases where the courts have ruled on and not handled their own investigations.
That genie is out of the bottle and it would take a major disaster failure to stuff it back in.

 

[ThreeandOut]

One game? NFL ban for alleged violence on wife draws renewed rage
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/21/us/nfl-josh-brown-suspension/index.html

A guy who admits 20 instances of DV.

This is way more high profile. It's not happening to Zeke.

 

[ThreeandOut]

I agree. If they do 1 or 2 games they look absolutely foolish. If they knock it down to 0 they can admit they screwed up...again

Henderson would have to completely repudiate the findings of the investigation and knock it down to 0. The only way he's doing that is if he doesn't want to be on Goodell's sinking ship.

 

[Alexander]

Good point.
But does Roethlisberger get much endorsements?

He was the highest ranked earner as recently as 2015, but the endorsements were pretty low in comparison.

But most NFL players don't make nearly the same in endorsements in terms of compensation ratio as other sports.

https://www.forbes.com/athletes/list/

Most of the sports biggest names have to be fortunate. Look at Romo. The only real endorsement he ever got that was remotely big was Starter apparel.

 

[Alexander]

Henderson would have to completely repudiate the findings of the investigation and knock it down to 0. The only way he's doing that is if he doesn't want to be on Goodell's sinking ship.

That is not likely. Most of the personnel in the league office are not beholden to the commissioner.

Like congressmen, they could align themselves completely with him or look to move politically with the ranks in the future. They don't come and go with the Commissioner.

 

[waldoputty]

He was the highest ranked earner as recently as 2015, but the endorsements were pretty low in comparison.

But most NFL players don't make nearly the same in endorsements in terms of compensation ratio as other sports.

https://www.forbes.com/athletes/list/

Most of the sports biggest names have to be fortunate. Look at Romo. The only real endorsement he ever got that was remotely big was Starter apparel.

interesting list.

i think zeke has (had) real potential in endorsements.
being the tip of the spear for the resurgent cowboys is a big deal.

was it garrett who took zeke aside to have the 'you could be like lebron if you shape up' talk.

 

[noletime95]

Let's assume this case goes to court. Despite all the leaks from Zeke's camp that just further frustrate showing what a nut case this girl appears to be, which just further frustrates the **** out of me......how does Zeke win in court? Aren't the courts just ruling on the NFL's power to adjudicate a case like this based on the CBA? Or would there be an actual trial that would determine Zeke's fate, with only a preponderance of the evidence required for the NFL to prevail? If it's the latter, Zeke could certainly win.

 

[ThreeandOut]

That is not likely. Most of the personnel in the league office are not beholden to the commissioner.

Like congressmen, they could align themselves completely with him or look to move politically with the ranks in the future. They don't come and go with the Commissioner.

IMO it's about 95% that he tows the company line and keeps it at 6 games.

 

[waldoputty]

That is not likely. Most of the personnel in the league office are not beholden to the commissioner.

Like congressmen, they could align themselves completely with him or look to move politically with the ranks in the future. They don't come and go with the Commissioner.

or he can use the new evidence excuse

 

[Alexander]

interesting list.

i think zeke has (had) real potential in endorsements.
being the tip of the spear for the resurgent cowboys is a big deal.

was it garrett who took zeke aside to have the 'you could be like lebron if you shape up' talk.

I think that would require him to be completely cleared. The damage is already out there.

If people do not already view him as a woman beater, he is a boob grabber and party animal. He has a lot more maturing to do regardless before he rises to LeBron status.

 

[Alexander]

or he can use the new evidence excuse

It is probably not all that new. Just a little more detailed.

If this is completely new, Elliott's team really cost him during the original process.

 

[Doomsday]

This is a calculated move by the NFL. Now they can say 4 independent (lol) people looked into it for a year and the appeal was handled by a 5th person who wasn't God-dell and they all came to the same conclusion.

 

[waldoputty]

I think that would require him to be completely cleared. The damage is already out there.

If people do not already view him as a woman beater, he is a boob grabber and party animal. He has a lot more maturing to do regardless before he rises to LeBron status.

consensual partying boob grabber can be rehabilitated if lebron can recover from 'the decision'.
woman beater probably cannot.
yes they would have to absolutely destroy the nfl case.

 

[waldoputty]

It is probably not all that new. Just a little more detailed.

If this is completely new, Elliott's team really cost him during the original process.

what the zeke team with zeke or was it just zeke?
i presume not just zeke.
hard to believe it was such a fail, though the new evidence would be the public excuse.

 

[links18]

This is BS, this should be done by someone who is has no bias for the player or the league and based on all facts. Zeke and Jones as well as NFLPA should be demanding an independent review the appeal.

Should all appeals be handled by independent review?

 

[Texas_Pete]

NFL accuses NFLPA of shaming Ezekiel Elliott’s accuser

“Over the past few days we’ve received multiple reports of the NFLPA spreading derogatory information to the media about the victim in Ezekiel Elliott discipline case, the statement read. “It’s a common tactic to attempt to prove the innocence of the accused by discrediting the victim — in this case Ms. Thompson — when coming forward to report such abuse. Common or not, these tactics are shameful. Efforts to shame and blame victims are often what prevent people from coming forward to report violence and/or seek help in the first place.”

LINK: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...es-nflpa-of-shaming-ezekiel-elliotts-accuser/

SMH

 

[The Fonz]

Roger Goodell is running as fast as he can away from this

 

[Cowboys22]

Let's assume this case goes to court. Despite all the leaks from Zeke's camp that just further frustrate showing what a nut case this girl appears to be, which just further frustrates the **** out of me......how does Zeke win in court? Aren't the courts just ruling on the NFL's power to adjudicate a case like this based on the CBA? Or would there be an actual trial that would determine Zeke's fate, with only a preponderance of the evidence required for the NFL to prevail? If it's the latter, Zeke could certainly win.

He will have to show that the league has violated some law or right that is outside of the CBA and that if left to stand it will cause irreparable harm if allowed to stand. The CBA does not allow the NFL to violate players rights or other laws. They can argue the disparity between Josh Brown and himself represents discrimination and thus a violation of his civil rights. He could claim bias due to the lead investigator being a lifelong fan and season ticket holder of the Giants. They can argue its disparate treatment under the CBA. They can try and show some type of collusion within the league to makeup for past mistakes and not relying on the actual evidence. Whatever it is that they argue, it cannot be that Goodell overstepped his bounds or simply that Zeke is innocent. It has to be that he is innocent and the league has violated some type of protection he has outside of the CBA by concluding he is guilty without proper evidence. Otherwise, it will end up just like Brady.