News: PFT: NFL announces Harold Henderson will handle Ezekiel Elliott appeal

[Hawkeye19]

They continue to call her a victim, she is not a victim she is a gold digging liar and should be called out. I can sympathize with any woman who is being abused and I would expect her to seek justice but we also know there are woman out there who will make false claims to attack men. This would not be the 1st case of a woman falsely accusing a man. The NFL take right now seems to be well she is a woman therefore what she is saying is the truth despite the evidence showing her plotting manipulating and harassing Elliott

Agree-- BUT, seems hard to believe that they would look at this for over a year and 100% throw Zeke under the bus if there actually is 0% evidence he ever hit her. She may be everything you say she is and more-- AND Zeke may have in fact hit her. I just don't know.

if she really did intentionally get in a bar fight to collect bruises to frame Zeke and he never hit her-- I pray that somehow, someway he has evidence that can clear his name. The NFL calling him a "woman beater" publicly has made him anathema. He won't get the endorsements and deals he would have otherwise costing him so much earning potential in his prime it's ridiculous.

BUT-- if they are sitting on some damning proof of Zeke's violence that hasn't been disclosed yet, he'll be absolutely skewered publicly worse than if he just took his lumps and moved on.

 

[aria]

The best part is the NFL laments that the NFLPA is apparently trying to "discredit" the victim. That's the point, you tools. In cases like this, credibility is vital to the conclusion. And it's not like the NFLPA has leaked false stories to discredit her, they have released actual facts:

She did discuss extorting Elliott for money. FACT.

She did get caught lying about one of the incidents of assault. FACT.

She did harass him to the point where Elliott had to call the police. FACT.

The NFL statement reads like they believe the NFLPA is spreading false allegations here. LOL.

Again if credibility is vital...
Zeke texted about beating a drug test (shows a propensity to lie). FACT

Zeke walked into a weed store. FACT

Several people from college said Zeke does/did drugs. FACT

Zeke has publicly displayed little respect for women. FACT

Zeke was involved in a bar incident where someone got knocked out (could show a propensity towards violence). FACT

Zeke wears belly shirts and carries purses. FACT

 

[Nightman]

Holy #$#%.

Discrediting the "victim"? SHE LIED. SHE TRIED TO EXTORT MONEY FROM HIM.

Attempt to discredit her? She discredited herself.

Anyone expecting the NFL to not uphold the 6 game suspension after seeing this is bonkers. They are digging in for a fight themselves.

This seems pretty prejudicial......like not allowed.... how can he get a fair appeal if they call her the vicitm, not even alleged

The whole idea of courts and cross examinations is to discredit witnesses

 

[Hawkeye19]

The best part is the NFL laments that the NFLPA is apparently trying to "discredit" the victim. That's the point, you tools. In cases like this, credibility is vital to the conclusion. And it's not like the NFLPA has leaked false stories to discredit her, they have released actual facts:

She did discuss extorting Elliott for money. FACT.

She did get caught lying about one of the incidents of assault. FACT.

She did harass him to the point where Elliott had to call the police. FACT.

The NFL statement reads like they believe the NFLPA is spreading false allegations here. LOL.

Yup...that's what so puzzling about this move for the NFL. I guess they have reached the "point of no return" in terms of their backing Thompson. So much so that rational and reasonable evidence to the contrary is being summarily dismissed.

That-- or they have evidence as yet unreleased-- that is even more damning for Zeke. What a strange, surreal case lol

 

[mkindred]

Again if credibility is vital...
Zeke texted about beating a drug test (shows a propensity to lie). FACT

Zeke walked into a weed store. FACT

Several people from college said Zeke does/did drugs. FACT

Zeke has publicly displayed little respect for women. FACT

Zeke was involved in a bar incident where someone got knocked out (could show a propensity towards violence). FACT

Zeke wears belly shirts and carries purses. FACT

And not one of these things is tied to the case about domestic violence where the other post you are mocking only made statements related to the case. FACT

 

[Nightman]

Again if credibility is vital...
Zeke texted about beating a drug test (shows a propensity to lie). FACT

Zeke walked into a weed store. FACT

Several people from college said Zeke does/did drugs. FACT

Zeke has publicly displayed little respect for women. FACT

Zeke was involved in a bar incident where someone got knocked out (could show a propensity towards violence). FACT

Zeke wears belly shirts and carries purses. FACT

you need to look up the definition of FACT

 

[aria]

And that's a valid point if there wasn't a significant amount of evidence in this specific case that the victim is the one with credibility issues.

Now, I have said that maybe he did do this. The NFL, though, better have more evidence that they've kept under wraps IMO.

I agree man, it's just tough to side with her due to her nuttiness but take the Star off Zeke and it's hard ro side with him based on his history as well.

Your second comment is what makes me think maybe they do. I'm sure they knew he would appeal and based on their past handling of these types of cases wouldn't you think there may be mkre than what we know? Is that even possible?

 

[aria]

And not one of these things is tied to the case about domestic violence where the other post you are mocking only made statements related to the case. FACT

Bar fight can be tied to violence, domestic or otherwise. My point was Zeke's "character" is easily questionable as well. If he lied about other incidents, why not this? Oh, I get it, he only tells the truth about DV charges but not about beating drug tests.

 

[aria]

you need to look up the definition of FACT

Please be more specific. The only thing you can bring into question is the bar fight and if you don't believe he did it then I have some ocean front property...

 

[Sydla]

Again if credibility is vital...
Zeke texted about beating a drug test (shows a propensity to lie). FACT

Zeke walked into a weed store. FACT

Several people from college said Zeke does/did drugs. FACT

Zeke has publicly displayed little respect for women. FACT

Zeke was involved in a bar incident where someone got knocked out (could show a propensity towards violence). FACT

Zeke wears belly shirts and carries purses. FACT

Which one of those relates directly the case?

In other words, with regards to this case, which one of the above was a lie that dealt directly with the case at hand?

I'll wait for your response.

 

[waldoputty]

Again if credibility is vital...
Zeke texted about beating a drug test (shows a propensity to lie). FACT

Zeke walked into a weed store. FACT

Several people from college said Zeke does/did drugs. FACT

Zeke has publicly displayed little respect for women. FACT

Zeke was involved in a bar incident where someone got knocked out (could show a propensity towards violence). FACT

Zeke wears belly shirts and carries purses. FACT

zeke's history is one of a defiant funny-loving rule-bending wild dude who likes to party and get easy bangs

skank's history is one of extorting scheming evidence-falsifying.

zeke needs to grow up, and hopefully he does a lot of growing up after this exploded in his face.

skank commits felonies with no regard.

big difference.

 

[Sydla]

I agree man, it's just tough to side with her due to her nuttiness but take the Star off Zeke and it's hard ro side with him based on his history as well.

Your second comment is what makes me think maybe they do. I'm sure they knew he would appeal and based on their past handling of these types of cases wouldn't you think there may be mkre than what we know? Is that even possible?

You keep trying to subtly shift this to that she's only crazy.

She's more than crazy. She's a liar. She made a pretty big factually inaccurate statement. She claimed she was beaten on the 21st and it was a lie and she later admitted to the lie. So stop saying she's just nutty. She is nutty......... but she is also the only one here in this case who also lied about facts of the case.

 

[Nightman]

Please be more specific. The only thing you can bring into question is the bar fight and if you don't believe he did it then I have some ocean front property...

your leaps aren't facts......your opinion that showing a propensity to lying or violence are not FACTS
showing little respect for women is not a fact..... again your opinion
you already admitted your bar fight line was bogus... so I guess you have the propensity to lie
name one person that says EE is still doing drugs

 

[aria]

Which one of those relates directly the case?

In other words, with regards to this case, which one of the above was a lie that dealt directly with the case at hand?

I'll wait for your response.

None directly but they can all be tied to his "character" which include violence, lying and disrespecting women which can all be indirectly tied to this case. If he has a history of lying who's to say he didn't lie here? If he has a history of violence, who's to say, without a doubt, that he didn't hit her? If he has a history of disrespecting women in public, what does that say about how he may have treated her?

 

[aria]

zeke's history is one of a defiant funny-loving rule-bending wild dude who likes to party and get easy bangs

skank's history is one of extorting scheming evidence-falsifying.

zeke needs to grow up, and hopefully he does a lot of growing up after this exploded in his face.

skank commits felonies with no regard.

big difference.

Really? Knocking a dude cold out is "funhy loving". Beating drug tests is more than just "rule bending", it's rule breaking.

 

[Doomsday101]

Agree-- BUT, seems hard to believe that they would look at this for over a year and 100% throw Zeke under the bus if there actually is 0% evidence he ever hit her. She may be everything you say she is and more-- AND Zeke may have in fact hit her. I just don't know.

if she really did intentionally get in a bar fight to collect bruises to frame Zeke and he never hit her-- I pray that somehow, someway he has evidence that can clear his name. The NFL calling him a "woman beater" publicly has made him anathema. He won't get the endorsements and deals he would have otherwise costing him so much earning potential in his prime it's ridiculous.

BUT-- if they are sitting on some damning proof of Zeke's violence that hasn't been disclosed yet, he'll be absolutely skewered publicly worse than if he just took his lumps and moved on.

all they have is her statement and pictures that she took herself. When she called police and they asked her about seeking medical attention she refused at least there they would have a doctor examine her but she did not want that. Zeke does not seem concerned about some hidden evidence and maybe that has to do with he did not do it. They know for a fact she was in an altercation with another woman that is not even a question, the photos she gave investigators claiming these marks came from Zeke and we know he made them how?

 

[aria]

You keep trying to subtly shift this to that she's only crazy.

She's more than crazy. She's a liar. She made a pretty big factually inaccurate statement. She claimed she was beaten on the 21st and it was a lie and she later admitted to the lie. So stop saying she's just nutty. She is nutty......... but she is also the only one here in this case who also lied about facts of the case.

I'm not trying to shift anything. I never said she didn't lie, I said he doesn't probe that she lied about Zeke hitting her whether it was 20 times or once. As I said, I believe the truth lies somewhere between.

I notice you like to bring up how many times she's lied but not once have you admitted or brought up Zeke lying. Whether it is directly related to this case or not will you at least admit Zeke has a history of lying and violence and that could effect some people's judgment of whether he is telling the truth and may have hit her?

 

[waldoputty]

Really? Knocking a dude cold out is "funhy loving". Beating drug tests is more than just "rule bending", it's rule breaking.

and you know zeke knocked the dude out?
yes he did go to the weed shop and skirt the rules.
but you lumped it together with the assault?
if you are really on the edge of the drug rule, would you really be tweeting about it.
someone mocking the rules does not actually mean he is breaking the rules.

what is your agenda?
you want a win for DV - is that it?

 

[aria]

your leaps aren't facts......your opinion that showing a propensity to lying or violence are not FACTS
showing little respect for women is not a fact..... again your opinion
you already admitted your bar fight line was bogus... so I guess you have the propensity to lie
name one person that says EE is still doing drugs

Jesus, how many excuses can you make for this guy. Are you telling me he didn't text about beating a drug test? If he did, does that not show he is a liar/dishonest and may have a propensity to still use drugs? I never said he still does, I said he may. Lol, exposing a womans breast, gf or wife included, in public without their immediate knowledge is disrespectful but I'll leave that to you and the other people here to justify.

Are yoe telling me that you don't think he had anything to do with hitting that guy in the bar? Please don't even try to argue that it isn't a fact just because no witnesses came forward.

 

[Nightman]

Jesus, how many excuses can you make for this guy. Are you telling me he didn't text about beating a drug test? If he did, does that not show he is a liar/dishonest and may have a propensity to still use drugs? I never said he still does, I said he may. Lol, exposing a womans breast, gf or wife included, in public without their immediate knowledge is disrespectful but I'll leave that to you and the other people here to justify.

Are yoe telling me that you don't think he had anything to do with hitting that guy in the bar? Please don't even try to argue that it isn't a fact just because no witnesses came forward.

Keep up your witch hunt...... you are doing so well so far