jwooten15
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America will rejoice if you are right!Zeke's case will set the precedent moving forward. It will also be the end of Roger.
America will rejoice if you are right!Zeke's case will set the precedent moving forward. It will also be the end of Roger.
So? One thing about courts is what happens in the past can be overturned NOW. Brady had a couple of things against him that Zek at this point does not
Brady by the phone thing and other incidents had show he was NOT cooperative. The NFL admits Zeke was.
Brady was caught lying about not knowing the ball guys names, etc. Claiming he had little contact with them which was shown false
The league is not obligated to show the public information about its investigation. The NFL is a private organization in terms of its governance, policies and rules. It is not under the Freedom of Information Act.
I do suspect that Elliott's team will release ALL the information it has to shame the NFL and Goodell.
One good thing is Goodell now has two heavy hitters against him, Kraft and Jerry. I don't know if he'll ever be replaced but he's less popular with the owners today than he's ever been.
you are missing the bigger picture. By refusing to show Zeke all the evidence against him as has been shown; by refusing to show the public all evidence then the league has basically convicted Zeke without due process.
Zeke I believe can file for slander/libel. Since the NFL is NOT the press/media they do NOT have the same 1st Amendment protection
I don't think the court took that into consideration. In general, the courts are very reluctant to get involved in private business matters governed by their own rules and regulations.
I know many of us are hoping, but after further research, I don't see Zeke fairing any better than Brady did.
It's not slander or libel unless he can show that it is false. The same problem exists for defamation of character. The information has to be "demonstrably and objectively false."
I do not know if there's any way that he can prove that it is false since the NFL has cast him as guilty. I don't think he could have been proven guilty in court based on everything that I've read, but now that the NFL has cast him as guilty, he has to show that he's innocent and the NFL purposely lied about it.
Exactly, If a guy robs a bank and he is not charged with robbing the bank because of lack of evidence, and now someone comes along and says they have prove that the guy robbed a bank, wouldn't the authorities reopen the case and charge the guy with robbing the bank if this "Evidence" was legit?No I don't. That's what makes the suspension complete BS
But the NFL doesn't have to justify its action. Once the season starts, attention will be back on football.More than shame the NFL but force them to justify their action
this is a fight in PR as well as otherwise; and this looks real bad for the NFL there.
Exactly, If a guy robs a bank and he is not charged with robbing the bank because of lack of evidence, and now someone comes along and says they have prove that the guy robbed a bank, wouldn't the authorities reopen the case and charge the guy with robbing the bank if this "Evidence" was legit?
It really makes you wonder.
I don't think the court took that into consideration. In general, the courts are very reluctant to get involved in private business matters governed by their own rules and regulations.
I know many of us are hoping, but after further research, I don't see Zeke fairing any better than Brady did.
I live in an NFL city that is not Dallas, and as far as the court of public opinion goes, I think I have a good feel for what non-Cowboys fans are on this situation based on debates I have had with friends and colleagues. AT least in Green Bay anyways. Almost every person that I have had discussions with on the Zeke situation has been siding with the NFL and they feel he is guilty and deserves the suspension. This can be expected since the info they are receiving is mostly from the side of the alleged victim via the NFL. That being said, if the rest of the non-Cowboy country is experiencing what I am experiencing, it is going to be very hard for the NFL to back-off this suspension. Guilty or not, if the NFL reduces or eliminates the suspension at this point, I feel they are going to be getting some significant backlash from the public.
As a Cowboys fan, I don't like it at all.
This could get even uglier yet.
It might be a PR fight, but the NFL cannot take its findings public beyond what it has released. It will not surprise me, though, if the findings leak out.
So? One thing about courts is what happens in the past can be overturned NOW. Brady had a couple of things against him that Zek at this point does not
Brady by the phone thing and other incidents had show he was NOT cooperative. The NFL admits Zeke was.
Brady was caught lying about not knowing the ball guys names, etc. Claiming he had little contact with them which was shown false
But the NFL doesn't have to justify its action. Once the season starts, attention will be back on football.
I live in an NFL city that is not Dallas, and as far as the court of public opinion goes, I think I have a good feel for what non-Cowboys fans are on this situation based on debates I have had with friends and colleagues. AT least in Green Bay anyways. Almost every person that I have had discussions with on the Zeke situation has been siding with the NFL and they feel he is guilty and deserves the suspension. This can be expected since the info they are receiving is mostly from the side of the alleged victim via the NFL. That being said, if the rest of the non-Cowboy country is experiencing what I am experiencing, it is going to be very hard for the NFL to back-off this suspension. Guilty or not, if the NFL reduces or eliminates the suspension at this point, I feel they are going to be getting some significant backlash from the public.
As a Cowboys fan, I don't like it at all.
This could get even uglier yet.