PFT: Pete Caroll on college players getting NIL money, "It changes their mentality"

[MyFairLady]

Mens NCAA football and basketball are the farthest thing you will ever find from amateur athletics. It is the very definition of professional sports. The players should 100% be able to sell themselves to the highest bidders. The coaches, the schools and the league itself sells themselves to the highest bidders. The notion that the players should not get paid is incredibly offensive.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Just one more mile marker down the road to the death of the greatest sport ever invented.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Actually Fuzzy I'm not new. Been around for almost 20 years, long before the site was in its current format. I'm just not much of a poster. I just found it interesting that someone lamenting one schools "bribing" of recruits was completely ok with another school doing exactly what he was complaining about, as long as the second school was the one he rooted for. But alas I too thought after posting perhaps I was a little aggressive. And yes, I'm acutely aware of the irony of someone with my username commenting in a thread about greed. Lol. Que sera sera?

You have 11 posts. If you switched accounts then who were you before?

 

[Captain-Crash]

Here’s what ChatGPT had to say:

According to the NCAA, only about 1.6% of college football players go on to play in the NFL. This means that out of the thousands of college football players across the country, only a small fraction will make it to the highest level of professional football. It's important to note that the odds of making it to the NFL can vary based on a player's position, level of competition, and various other factors.

he's one from Chatcc, the idiots who think they will make it in sports and don't get an education while in school is 75%.

 

[Captain-Crash]

....for serving the nation in peace time and war time......while watching friends not come back.

Next time you want to be a smart *** include all the facts befoe running your mouth.

 

[GMO415]

This pay for play has been going on since the 50s,. Now it just in the open.

19 year olds driving Lamborghinis on campus.

 

[moneytalks]

You have 11 posts. If you switched accounts then who were you before?

I just said I haven't posted much but I can't help you with comprehension. I joined this site a few months before you actually. Don't look at my post count. Look at my join date. That will tell you how long I've been around. Hope that helps.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

This pay for play has been going on since the 50s,. Now it just in the open.

19 year olds driving Lamborghinis on campus.

Now imagine this kid not attending classes, having a poor work ethic, and a bad attitude. This is why I've said regulated it. In other words, if you're paying one, paying them all. Give each kid, say $2000 a month.

 

[reddyuta]

Talk about entitlement.very few college players actually get to play in the NFL.another old guy shouting at the clouds moment.

 

[GMO415]

Talk about entitlement.very few college players actually get to play in the NFL.another old guy shouting at the clouds moment.

This will be the pinnacle for most athletes

 

[conner01]

Since when is working for money a bad thing?

Nevermind that the universities themselves made it all about the money over the past 20 years.

And sure money empowers people so the condescending tactics college coaches are known for don't work as well. Boo hoo.

I see both sides
I don’t think it’s gonna have a huge effect on players since the ones that make big money would get a big signing bonus anyway
Also it’s hard to argue it’s fair to have schools make money off them
The downside, if one considers it a downside is players might be encouraged to stay in school another year since they are getting some money
My fear is corruption but that can be handled if the system is watched closely

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I see both sides
I don’t think it’s gonna have a huge effect on players since the ones that make big money would get a big signing bonus anyway
Also it’s hard to argue it’s fair to have schools make money off them
The downside, if one considers it a downside is players might be encouraged to stay in school another year since they are getting some money
My fear is corruption but that can be handled if the system is watched closely

There already is a ton of corruption. Boosters are always trying to pay recruits off the books and the like.

And there is nothing stopping someone from going back to school once the enter the league.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I just said I haven't posted much but I can't help you with comprehension. I joined this site a few months before you actually. Don't look at my post count. Look at my join date. That will tell you how long I've been around. Hope that helps.

I figured you posted more than 10 times in 15 years. You not posting much does not preclude you renaming.

Either way people have no idea who you are and you are calling them out. You are more or less introducing yourself as such. Do as you will.

 

[conner01]

There already is a ton of corruption. Boosters are always trying to pay recruits off the books and the like.

And there is nothing stopping someone from going back to school once the enter the league.corruption already exist, that is true. Didn’t mean it will get worse though

There’s never been anything keeping them from going back. Some do but most dont
But if a guy is not a top draft pick it could keep him in school and depending on position, might produce better players for the nfl with more experience. Probably not the case with RB’s though. The guy who got less snaps in college probably has a longer career

 

[jterrell]

Transfer portal is gold for NFL evaluation.
Kids playing in two systems/schemes under 2 staffs gives you as much info as you can possibly hope for.

And transferring didn't hinder Burrow, Baker nor Kyler from being drafted where they were.

BUT, you look as a player like Pat Mahomes Jr who stuck it out under pretty terrible conditions and can see how that loyalty aspect of his personality led to a 10-year deal and buying into franchise ownership all over KC.

A lot of variables for NFL teams to weigh.
On a collegiate level I love it.
Kids are looking to play. Having 4-5 elite teams hording talent just makes for a worse product on the field in 99% of the games.

2 Texas kids are likely going to be drafted top 10 that transferred.
Christian Gonzales went and got and got better visibility at Oregon and Tyree Wilson came to Tech and got the snaps he needed to develop and then dominate.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Transfer portal is gold for NFL evaluation.
Kids playing in two systems/schemes under 2 staffs gives you as much info as you can possibly hope for.

And transferring didn't hinder Burrow, Baker nor Kyler from being drafted where they were.

BUT, you look as a player like Pat Mahomes Jr who stuck it out under pretty terrible conditions and can see how that loyalty aspect of his personality led to a 10-year deal and buying into franchise ownership all over KC.

A lot of variables for NFL teams to weigh.
On a collegiate level I love it.
Kids are looking to play. Having 4-5 elite teams hording talent just makes for a worse product on the field in 99% of the games.

2 Texas kids are likely going to be drafted top 10 that transferred.
Christian Gonzales went and got and got better visibility at Oregon and Tyree Wilson came to Tech and got the snaps he needed to develop and then dominate.

Makes sense seeing someone in two different environments would reveal a lot.

I think players should be able to move freely and decide their own level of commitment.

 

[SuperBowlz]

Yeah NIL gets you players like Jalen Carter who is making 1.2mil annually off nil. Gets a lazy lying scumbag.

I hope we get that scumbag!

 

[SuperBowlz]

A free education that leads you to nothing. College doesn’t prepare for anything. It doesn’t prepare you for the world or even the job field. Their “free education” isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. Free education….they got free food. Yay. Get all your money kings!

My college degree lead me to everything. Maybe I have a slightly different perspective but I was a senior year HS dropout. I was lazy and was a great procrastinator. I learned one thing in college and it changed my life TREMENDOUSLY. I learned how to handle my business immediately. Maybe others learned that discipline earlier or in a different way but I went from being a "D" student HS dropout to a 3.75 gpa college grad and it changed my life tremendously.

 

[SuperBowlz]

It's not quite what you think it is. The scholarship is entirely free. While tuition is greatly reduced, the military vet still has to pay fees. Texas, for example, offers a grant called the Hazlewood grant which allows vets to go to college tuition free. But the vet is still responsible for the cost of their books, labs, etc, which we all know is extremely high.

When I was in college I'd go to a classmate and ask to borrow their book for one night and buy them lunch. Then I'd go to my job at night cleaning office buildings and use the copy machine to copy it lol

 

[manster4ever]

The reason society sucks now is because everything is about money. Everything.

Truer words were never spoken but that's nothing new bro...been going on in this country for over 100 years....I mean, that's capitalism