PFT: Pete Caroll on college players getting NIL money, "It changes their mentality"

[USArmyVet]

They'll just get Nike, NoBull, Apple or whatever sponsor in the NIL game to pay their college.....same difference.

The Rabbit has a bigger gun...

Athletes aren't going to be starving at the negotiation table.

The point is to allow those scholarships to go to kids that are there for an education and not a stepping stone to pro sports.

 

[JayFord]

Colleges profit off them students more than the student will EVER profit off of the college

let em make money they need it

 

[erod]

College football is not long for this world.

 

[jazzcat22]

So the schools can rake in millions off of the players who aren’t “professionals” and that’s ok? Lol

They don't make money off of the players or any endorsement.
TV contracts and local merchants. Also they get millions of $$$ from alumni for scholarships, to recruit the players.

 

[Rockport]

Oh it doesn't bother me lol. I find it funny he's that angry lol.....I've literally done nothing to him lol.

I agree. It’s great entertainment watching him make a fool of himself with his 12 year ole type insults.

 

[jazzcat22]

So let’s start making these millionaire professionals pay for their degrees. Why use a scholarship on someone that doesn’t need it? Why should football and basketball players enjoy such inequitable privileges?

Many professional athletes give back to their colleges and / or the areas they grew up in. Through charities and / or to the scholarships funds.
It is just we do not hear about it, because it is not as newsworthy to put on social media. Such as a player getting a tattoo, or an altercation that means nothing in a night club.

 

[jazzcat22]

STOP THE ARGUMENTS AND INSULTS.

 

[DuncanIso]

Since when is working for money a bad thing?

Nevermind that the universities themselves made it all about the money over the past 20 years.

And sure money empowers people so the condescending tactics college coaches are known for don't work as well. Boo hoo.

Agree.

1000 percent.

One of the guys in my frat had a torn knee from football.

Huge scar.

Didn’t make a penny from football.

Ended up working in a coal mine.

 

[ChronicCowboy]

Many professional athletes give back to their colleges and / or the areas they grew up in. Through charities and / or to the scholarships funds.
It is just we do not hear about it, because it is not as newsworthy to put on social media. Such as a player getting a tattoo, or an altercation that means nothing in a night club.

Setting up a charity or NGO is the first thing rich people do to avoid paying taxes. These guys give their time to volunteer snd I respect that but they ain’t losing a dime.

 

[zrinkill]

These kids names sell college Jerseys..... If you do not want them to get paid ..... Stop selling the Jerseys

 

[tyke1doe]

Since when is working for money a bad thing?

Nevermind that the universities themselves made it all about the money over the past 20 years.

And sure money empowers people so the condescending tactics college coaches are known for don't work as well. Boo hoo.

Thank you!
I used to be against pay-for-play.
But after seeing coaches lie to kids about staying to coach them - simply to get them to commit to the university - then leave for more money and a better opportunity.
Then to see everybody else making money off the backs of the players while many of these players suffer life-debilitating injuries from college football and once they leave school, the help leaves with them.
I'm like, "Get as much as you can."
Everybody's a capitalist until it affects their bottom line.

 

[tyke1doe]

The reason society sucks now is because everything is about money. Everything.

True. But who taught us this?
Our elders.
We're merely reaping what we've sown.

 

[jazzcat22]

Setting up a charity or NGO is the first thing rich people do to avoid paying taxes. These guys give their time to volunteer snd I respect that but they ain’t losing a dime.

You do not recoup that given to charity at 100% if cash donations.
Certain charities you may get credit for time are mileage driven, and of course items such as vehicles, furniture and clothes donated. But is is not a dollar for dollar advantage.

If you donate $100 or $1 million it is still a % of the write off you get back.

So what they can give is a great impact over the idea of a tax deduction.

 

[ChronicCowboy]

You do not recoup that given to charity at 100% if cash donations.
Certain charities you may get credit for time are mileage driven, and of course items such as vehicles, furniture and clothes donated. But is is not a dollar for dollar advantage.

If you donate $100 or $1 million it is still a % of the write off you get back.

So what they can give is a great impact over the idea of a tax deduction.

This is incorrect. Read more about tax advantages of owning a charitable organization. I’m not making a moral judgement, I’m simply saying the philanthropic nature is mostly a mirage.

 

[atlantacowboy]

I agree 100%.........As stayed in another thread a few weeks ago, at some point, it's going to be all about money, not grades, and not giving 100% on the field. Hell, you thought some of these kids had huge egos. Now imagine drafting one who already has a couple of million in the bank and trying to bring him back down to earth. I'm sure a lot of the kids with strong character will be fine but it's going to destroy a lot of kids. In other words, a lot kids simply don't have the character or maturation on how to handle that kind of money.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...getting-nil-money-it-changes-their-mentality/

Pete Carroll on college players getting NIL money: “It changes their mentality”​

Posted by Mike Florio on April 19, 2023, 8:03 PM EDT

College football remains in the early stages of players getting money for their names, images, and likenesses. Pro football, in turn, remains in the early stages of evaluating players who are cashing in on NIL.

During Wednesday’s pre-draft press conference, Seahawks coach Pete Carroll addressed the changing realities of college football, given NIL and the transfer portal.

“It’s like free agency going on in college football,” Carroll told reporters. “These kids have choices and they’re figuring it out, and here’s a whole young kind of evolution occurring here, and they’re early in it but they’re exposed differently, so we’re seeing guys a little bit differently. We have to continue to adapt as the times change, and that’s what we’ve been doing.”

Carroll was asked to explain how it’s changing their evaluation of incoming players.

This is going to work itself out. The top prospects were never in college to get an education. It was always about the money. They just get to legally see it a little sooner. However, it doesn't impact 95% of college players. Only a few are famous enough to cash in in a big way.

So, they have money to buy clothes and food now. Some can afford cars. Big deal. The real pay day is still in the NFL.

 

[tyke1doe]

Respectfully disagree, money has always ruled this world and our personal limitations with it has always dictated our experiences.

Also isnt it hypocritical of the schools to market and profit from these kids while they lay their bodies on the line?

"The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil."
Shrug.

 

[tyke1doe]

No it’s not. Foundation of capitalism is profit out of consumer desire. Amateur sports is about something different. If you can’t see the nuance then I’m sorry.

Wouldn't wanting to watch the best and brightest play football on the field be a "consumer desire"?

 

[ChronicCowboy]

Wouldn't wanting to watch the best and brightest play football on the field be a "consumer desire"?

Absolutely but we need a sharper distinction between amateur and professional college athletics.

 

[eromeopolk]

I agree 100%.........As stayed in another thread a few weeks ago, at some point, it's going to be all about money, not grades, and not giving 100% on the field. Hell, you thought some of these kids had huge egos. Now imagine drafting one who already has a couple of million in the bank and trying to bring him back down to earth. I'm sure a lot of the kids with strong character will be fine but it's going to destroy a lot of kids. In other words, a lot kids simply don't have the character or maturation on how to handle that kind of money.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...getting-nil-money-it-changes-their-mentality/

Pete Carroll on college players getting NIL money: “It changes their mentality”​

Posted by Mike Florio on April 19, 2023, 8:03 PM EDT

College football remains in the early stages of players getting money for their names, images, and likenesses. Pro football, in turn, remains in the early stages of evaluating players who are cashing in on NIL.

During Wednesday’s pre-draft press conference, Seahawks coach Pete Carroll addressed the changing realities of college football, given NIL and the transfer portal.

“It’s like free agency going on in college football,” Carroll told reporters. “These kids have choices and they’re figuring it out, and here’s a whole young kind of evolution occurring here, and they’re early in it but they’re exposed differently, so we’re seeing guys a little bit differently. We have to continue to adapt as the times change, and that’s what we’ve been doing.”

Carroll was asked to explain how it’s changing their evaluation of incoming players.

I do not see where you get your take on what Carroll actually said. 1st Carroll was involved with the Reggie Bush NIL deal before it was legal...so nuff said.

There is nothing wrong with capitalism. The market will find equilibrium. Nobody was having a problem with 15-18 year old tennis, golf, baseball and X sports athletes making millions. So what is the problem with basketball and football players?

Nobody in college football is making NFL money (total package of salary, benefits, co-brand marketing deals and NIL deals). Plus the max you can play college sports is 4 years compared to generational wealth like someone graduating with a doctorate in pharmaceutical science and medicinal chemistry over 40 years (salary, benefits, funding, speaking engagements, patent royalties, etc.).

 

[jazzcat22]

This is incorrect. Read more about tax advantages of owning a charitable organization. I’m not making a moral judgement, I’m simply saying the philanthropic nature is mostly a mirage.

I am talking about donations to Charity. Not owning one. Not all athletes own a charity.
And so what if they do, they are still helping others in need.