PFT: Plaxico pleads guilty...to serve two years

[Kangaroo]

Take away his right to own a gun for a while. Put him on probation, but I see no reason to waste my tax dollars incarcerating someone, because they thought they needed to carry a weapon to protect themselves, when they showed absolutely no hostile intent to anyone else. He may not have had a permit to carry in NY or NJ or wherever, but he did have one in Florida. Yeah, shame on him for not knowing the laws, but I bet half of you Texas hunters don't know the laws for transporting weapons when you go on your hunting trips. Difference is down there, they don't give you 2 years for not knowing the intricacies of the law. They might however give you 2 years for shoplifting a coat. In NY that's a walk. Odd how the priorities are different.

Texas has a large loop hole regarding this anyways about transporting a gun

 

[DallasEast]

No hypothetical at all.

It is a well known fact that their is an agenda to disarm the American public and the media is using this case to further it and build the case agianst guns.

It is an entirely different debate however..

Yeah. You're 100% correct. That is a different 'debate'. I hope that this thread isn't twisted toward that particular direction, thus providing an excuse for closing the thread or moving it to the Political Zone for that very reason.

 

[DallasEast]

Those who have a persistent personal problem with a particular law should take the initiative and act upon changing said law.

 

[JVita17]

2 years in jail for shooting yourself in the leg?

Great.

Anyone else think it is a little ridiculous? I mean the guy is dumb, no doubt, but he didn't hurt anyone but himself. Yes, he should have registered the gun, but these guys think there above the law- see all of them that drive without licenses...

I find it just amazing.

I find it ignorantly ridiculous. Stallworth got 28 days for running over and killing a man, Buress gets 2 years for shooting himself... its stupid.

 

[joseephuss]

I don't think there is any connection between the declining crime rate in New York and citizens not being allowed to carry guns.

Citizens are allowed to carry guns. They just need the proper permits and to do it in the proper settings. Even with a permit they can't carry their guns into a place that serves alcohol among other places. They wouldn't allowed any body who is armed into a Federal building, either.

I think is a good debate of whether two years of prison time is too stiff a sentence. I do think it is too harsh. That doesn't change the fact he broke a law. Actually more than one law. He had a gun without a proper permit. He carried a gun into an establishment where guns are prohibited. He discharged a firearm in public. He initially concealed the crimes.

 

[DallasEast]

1. Do you know what it is like to be a celebrity? They are obviously well known and become targets because of their fame and money. I don't know what is like to be a celebrity but I do know what it is like to be attacked by someone. First thing I did was get a gun (registered) to avoid it the next time. Now, the NY Gun laws I'm sure make it next to impossible to get a carry permit. So i'm sure in his mind (especially with the pro players who have been shot in the last few years, see Killa...) it was worth the risk to have the gun on him if something were to happen. I'm sure he would gladly face the music if it meant that it saved his life in the process. He obviously did not bank on shooting himself with the gun in a public place.... Doesn't make it right but it makes it understandable.

2. Its not incorrect, this would not have been happening if he didn't shoot himself. That is a fact. There is a chance this gun could have been discovered in other ways but it wasn't.

1. Celebrity status is irrelevant. All citizens who are legally eligible to own and carry gun(s) can do so. This issue is the legality of making certain someone can do just that.

2. It is incorrect. The only way it will become correct is for the law itself to be changed. That is what is commonly called an irrefutable fact.

 

[Duane]

Citizens are allowed to carry guns. They just need the proper permits and to do it in the proper settings. Even with a permit they can't carry their guns into a place that serves alcohol among other places. They wouldn't allowed any body who is armed into a Federal building, either.

I think is a good debate of whether two years of prison time is too stiff a sentence. I do think it is too harsh. That doesn't change the fact he broke a law. Actually more than one law. He had a gun without a proper permit. He carried a gun into an establishment where guns are prohibited. He discharged a firearm in public. He initially concealed the crimes.

 

[DallasEast]

Citizens are allowed to carry guns. They just need the proper permits and to do it in the proper settings. Even with a permit they can't carry their guns into a place that serves alcohol among other places. They wouldn't allowed any body who is armed into a Federal building, either.

I think is a good debate of whether two years of prison time is too stiff a sentence. I do think it is too harsh. That doesn't change the fact he broke a law. Actually more than one law. He had a gun without a proper permit. He carried a gun into an establishment where guns are prohibited. He discharged a firearm in public. He initially concealed the crimes.

A very good post, even though the relative length of his sentence doesn't concern me in the least.

 

[Temo]

I don't think there is any connection between the declining crime rate in New York and citizens not being allowed to carry guns.

The point is that it's not the "murder capital", and is actually one of the safest cities in the nation.

 

[Temo]

Those who have a persistent personal problem with a particular law should take the initiative and act upon changing said law.

Or if you're not a New Yorker, then just don't talk at all. It's our laws, and they're there for a reason. No one who lives here would carry a gun into a club not knowing the consequences.

 

[Temo]

I firmly believe that had PB been Joe Six-Pack and was not rich, he'd serve a month and get out of jail.

And you'd be firmly wrong.

 

[joseephuss]

I firmly believe that had PB been Joe Six-Pack and was not rich, he'd serve a month and get out of jail.

Having said that, if convicted under those charges and under those guidelines et by law, his career is over. And for good reason.

Stupidity like Plaxico's could have killed an innocent person instead of just hitting his leg.

I am now hearing on the radio that Plax had a chance to plead out and accept a 2.5 month sentence much earlier in the process. He took his chances and things got worse for him.

 

[RS12]

I am now hearing on the radio that Plax had a chance to plead out and accept a 2.5 month sentence much earlier in the process. He took his chances and things got worse for him.

Not hard to believe considering the brilliance he showed getting himself in this position.

 

[DallasEast]

Not hard to believe considering the brilliance he showed getting himself in this position.

:signmast:

 

[jubal]

I'm just tickled to death that it isn't someone from the Cowboys in the spotlight. We've had our days in the sun ,now spread the headlines around.

 

[cowboys#1]

what else does he need to play for?

he caught a game winning catch in the super bowl.

nothng else to prove except to get paid.

 

[Wezsh0T]

2 years in jail for shooting yourself in the leg?

Great.

Anyone else think it is a little ridiculous? I mean the guy is dumb, no doubt, but he didn't hurt anyone but himself. Yes, he should have registered the gun, but these guys think there above the law- see all of them that drive without licenses...

I find it just amazing.

I agree with you, Ken. I'm sure people are carrying concealed weapons illegally all the time. They just don't happen to shoot themselves I think there are a lot worse crimes out there we should be spending effort on.

 

[Ken]

Ask the bouncer who was paralyzed the night Pacman made it rain because someone brought a concealed handgun into a pub how he feels about how harsh the punishment is.

Ok...

Ask the church shooter from about 6 months ago how far he got on his "shooting spree" before a church goer stopped his clock with his concealed carry?

Then ask the victims at Virginia Tech if they would have liked to enjoy the same benefits the rest of Virginia has to be able to carry....

We could do this all day...

 

[DallasEast]

I agree with you, Ken. I'm sure people are carrying concealed weapons illegally all the time. They just don't happen to shoot themselves I think there are a lot worse crimes out there we should be spending effort on.

So, what happens to anyone in the state of New York if, for example, the owner of a handgun is reported to the police, for possessing one without a license, while he or she is eating out at a restaurant?

 

[wileedog]

2 years for shooting yourself? That is more than a little harsh. He may have been illegally carrying the gun, but he showed no hostile intent with it. Those are some draconian laws.

Driving drunk is still a crime even if you get home without running anyone over.