PFT: Plaxico pleads guilty...to serve two years

[AdamJT13]

Then tell the people in New Orleans to shape up their laws.

And just about everywhere else.

It's amazing how little drunk drivers are punished, even when they KILL SOMEONE.

The fact that Donte Stallworth served only 24 days for KILLING SOMEONE is appalling.

 

[Temo]

And just about everywhere else.

It's amazing how little drunk drivers are punished, even when they KILL SOMEONE.

The fact that Donte Stallworth served only 24 days for KILLING SOMEONE is appalling.

I think the fact that the person was jaywalking helped Stallworth's case to an extent, but even then 24 days is a joke. It's akin to saying it's ok not to brake for a pedestrian just because they're crossing illegally.

 

[Ken]

How do you know he knew them?? He had a right to carry permit in FL, maybe he thought it carried over. That said, ignorance isnt a defense. He should have some kind of punishment, however, i dont think he should be even serving time, much less 20 months.

Again, it all comes down to these gun control freaks. DC/NY has the most strict gun laws out there, yet they're still the murder capitals of the world. Yeah...these laws are working.

Wow....didn't know he had a right to carry permit in FL.

Even dumber that he got 2 years for this.

He obviously had some due diligence on his part.

And shooting yourself in the leg, while dumb, is not beyond even the most highly trained....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0

Lol.

 

[Ken]

And just about everywhere else.

It's amazing how little drunk drivers are punished, even when they KILL SOMEONE.

The fact that Donte Stallworth served only 24 days for KILLING SOMEONE is appalling.

Exactly.

This crime does not fit the punishment. At all...

 

[DallasEast]

Wow....didn't know he had a right to carry permit in FL.

Even dumber that he got 2 years for this.

He obviously had some due diligence on his part.

And shooting yourself in the leg, while dumb, is not beyond even the most highly trained....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0

Lol.

1. New York isn't Florida
2. Burress wasn't convicted of shooting himself

 

[DallasEast]

Exactly.

This crime does not fit the punishment. At all...

Just because one crime does not have the appropriate punishment does not refute another crime which does.

 

[Ken]

1. New York isn't Florida
2. Burress wasn't convicted of shooting himself

1. I realize this but he did register the gun somewhere and did have a permit to carry somewhere, which is more than most people would realize about this case.

2. If he didn't shoot himself, this would not even be an issue and he would still be playing.

 

[RS12]

What an idiot. Pissing it all away because he wanted to be a gangsta.

 

[Ken]

Just because one crime does not have the appropriate punishment does not refute another crime which does.

No, but it does underscore the agenda to make guns evil.

 

[DallasEast]

1. I realize this but he did register the gun somewhere and did have a permit to carry somewhere, which is more than most people would realize about this case.

2. If he didn't shoot himself, this would not even be an issue and he would still be playing.

1. Yes. In Florida. The argument could be made that if he had enough sense to realize that he had to register his weapon in the state of Florida to get the gun--the would also realize there many be stipulations for not doing the same in another state. Ignorance of the law in these situations is no excuse whatsoever.

2. That's still incorrect. In the state of New York, it will always be incorrect UNLESS the law itself is changed. If he had been discovered with the gun, he would have still been convicted.

 

[DallasEast]

No, but it does underscore the agenda to make guns evil.

Agenda?

Evil guns??

Are we discussing New York law or hypotheticals

 

[links18]

Take away his right to own a gun for a while. Put him on probation, but I see no reason to waste my tax dollars incarcerating someone, because they thought they needed to carry a weapon to protect themselves, when they showed absolutely no hostile intent to anyone else. He may not have had a permit to carry in NY or NJ or wherever, but he did have one in Florida. Yeah, shame on him for not knowing the laws, but I bet half of you Texas hunters don't know the laws for transporting weapons when you go on your hunting trips. Difference is down there, they don't give you 2 years for not knowing the intricacies of the law. They might however give you 2 years for shoplifting a coat. In NY that's a walk. Odd how the priorities are different.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I firmly believe that had PB been Joe Six-Pack and was not rich, he'd serve a month and get out of jail.

Having said that, if convicted under those charges and under those guidelines et by law, his career is over. And for good reason.

Stupidity like Plaxico's could have killed an innocent person instead of just hitting his leg.

 

[Ken]

1. Yes. In Florida. The argument could be made that if he had enough sense to realize that he had to register his weapon in the state of Florida to get the gun--the would also realize there many be stipulations for not doing the same in another state. Ignorance of the law in these situations is no excuse whatsoever.

2. That's still incorrect. In the state of New York, it will always be incorrect UNLESS the law itself is changed. If he had been discover with the gun, he would have been convicted.

1. Do you know what it is like to be a celebrity? They are obviously well known and become targets because of their fame and money. I don't know what is like to be a celebrity but I do know what it is like to be attacked by someone. First thing I did was get a gun (registered) to avoid it the next time. Now, the NY Gun laws I'm sure make it next to impossible to get a carry permit. So i'm sure in his mind (especially with the pro players who have been shot in the last few years, see Killa...) it was worth the risk to have the gun on him if something were to happen. I'm sure he would gladly face the music if it meant that it saved his life in the process. He obviously did not bank on shooting himself with the gun in a public place.... Doesn't make it right but it makes it understandable.

2. Its not incorrect, this would not have been happening if he didn't shoot himself. That is a fact. There is a chance this gun could have been discovered in other ways but it wasn't.

 

[Ken]

Agenda?

Evil guns??

Are we discussing New York law or hypotheticals

No hypothetical at all.

It is a well known fact that their is an agenda to disarm the American public and the media is using this case to further it and build the case agianst guns.

It is an entirely different debate however..

 

[viman96]

"What you shoot says a lot about who you are. If you shoot animals, you're a hunter. If you shoot people, you're a mobster. If you shoot yourself, you're an idiot." - Colin Cowherd

 

[yimyammer]

2 years in jail for shooting yourself in the leg?

Great.

Anyone else think it is a little ridiculous? I mean the guy is dumb, no doubt, but he didn't hurt anyone but himself. Yes, he should have registered the gun, but these guys think there above the law- see all of them that drive without licenses...

I find it just amazing.

I do, there needs to be some level of reason in the law to discriminate based upon circumstances.

Having said that, I don't know what the law or judge can do, I've seen signs since I was a kid posted in bars stating that bringing a firearm into a place that serves alcohol is a felony, so he has no excuse. Seems like he'd be in trouble even if the gun was registered.

Assuming the facts we have are correct, it just seems harsh and a waste of tax payer money keeping people in prison over weird circumstances like this.

I got a bad hangover when I was a kid and my dad just looked at me and said that's punishment enough.

Getting shot in the leg and losing millions from losing your job is pretty good punishment. Fine the hell out of him, give him some time, probation and a lot of community service and I think everyone would be better served.

 

[SkinsFan28]

I don't know for sure, but my understanding was that his FL permit had expired, and he had never gone and re-registered it. If he had a valid permit in another state, I think that would mitigate some stupidity - for example, if you are driving into maryland from VA you don't need to re-register your car, or re-do your license. It's only if you move, and I would assume his state of legal residence was Florida, so he would not have to re-register most things.

I say this off the top of my head. Please just correct if you know I stated something wrong.

 

[Deep_South]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/04/25/2009-04-25_city_crime_still_falling.html

"The city's crime rate for the first three months of 2009 was the lowest in more than 40 years, defying fears that the sinking economy might send the city back into the bad old days of rampant murders and rough streets.Through the end of last month, overall crime dropped 13.5% from a year ago - down in every major category, including homicides, with 89, according to daily crime statistics from police. Last year, there were 116 homicides during the same period.

Robberies were also down from 4,837 last year at this time to 4,131 this year, and grand larcenies dropped from 10,030 to 8,854.

"I know there's an anticipation ... that crime would go up as a result of the economic turndown. We just haven't experienced that," Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said Friday."

I know it can be hard to understand these laws for those who didn't see the old days in NYC, when it was considered dangerous to venture out alone at night. But NYC is waaay safer now, thanks to a lot of work done by Giuliani and his successor, Bloomberg. The gun laws aren't solely the reason, but it certainly feels safer to know that in a city of millions, you don't have random people in the subway packing heat.

Try going to a nightclub knowing that various thugs could be aiming to work out their "differences" and leave you in the crossfire. It isn't fun.

I don't think there is any connection between the declining crime rate in New York and citizens not being allowed to carry guns.

 

[Idgit]

2 years for shooting yourself? That is more than a little harsh. He may have been illegally carrying the gun, but he showed no hostile intent with it. Those are some draconian laws.

Ask the bouncer who was paralyzed the night Pacman made it rain because someone brought a concealed handgun into a pub how he feels about how harsh the punishment is.