News: PFT: Randy Gregory ready to apply for reinstatement

[KJJ]

I think I remember him saying he was taking things serious and he could be trusted. Something along the lines of his college troubles. I'm not sure what is left to believe in, really.

And what the hell is his exact issue, addiction or whatever he's having issues with. Weed?

He said he could be trusted after we drafted him. He said the team has nothing to worry about and that all his problems are behind him. It’s been nothing but problems with him ever since. He can’t be trusted or depended on. He’s a distraction and If he’s reinstated and brought to training camp he would be a distraction. Jerry, Garrett and Stephen will have to answer questions about him along with his teammates. You can’t be talking about a players off the field problems when you’re trying to prepare your football team for the 2018 season.

 

[Bleu Star]

Counted him out a long time ago.

For good reason....

In the real world, if you screw up due to an addiction, most every place of employment has a means for supporting you through recovery. Usually highly confidential....

Keep screwing up (like everyone's cushy teddy bear Gregory) and that support will cease.

At least Gregory served one positive purpose today. He got everyone in here talking about disease and addiction which has probably opened some eyes and hearts...

Now... Do I trust him to impact our hearts in the same way on the field? NO.... Trust lost.

 

[gmoney112]

I think I remember him saying he was taking things serious and he could be trusted. Something along the lines of his college troubles. I'm not sure what is left to believe in, really.

And what the hell is his exact issue, addiction or whatever he's having issues with. Weed?

Weed was the escape, as far as actual issue no one here knows and no one would know except his MDs.

 

[aikemirv]

You’re the one that needs to learn distinction. You are being incredibly dense on this subject.

Nobody is saying that using drugs isn’t a poor
Choice. Nobody is saying that it isn’t somebody m’s responsibility to not make that choice in the first place. It has nothing to do with the fact that addiction is a disease.

The choice to initially use is not the disease. The changes it causes to your mind and body are the disease. It’s also why there are people who can drink or use drugs and NEVER become addicts themselves.

Just like you said where people can get lung cancer without smoking. Similarly. People can use drugs and not become addicted.

Again, the act of using a substance isn’t the aspect that is the disease.

Again, stop being so dense. It really isn’t that hard to understand if you open your mind to it and stop going on about “personal responsibility” nonsense.

The level of which you guys are upset at my distinction just goes to prove the personal responsibility aspect that the "disease" label was created for!

 

[G2]

Bi-polar and anxiety disorder. If he is on the right medication he will be fine as long as he keeps up with his visits to his physician and mental health professional. I am not a doctor but without my meetings and all of the other things ive done, I wouldn't have kicked my habits. So I am hoping this works out for him. That's why I never understood forcing him away from the team.

Yeah but it's been years. And like any job, he needs to WANT to work. Doesn't seem that he does.

 

[phildadon86]

Yeah but it's been years. And like any job, he needs to WANT to work. Doesn't seem that he does.

I would have to say the fact he is almost 2 years clean kind of shows that he does. IMO

 

[phildadon86]

The level of which you guys are upset at my distinction just goes to prove the personal responsibility aspect that the "disease" label was created for!

And you continuing to be ignorant is what my ignore button was created for. Pray you never have a child that has an addiction issue. Would hate for you to have to see that first hand. Maybe then you will admit its a disease. Would really feel bad for you if you had to tell your child that their issues are due to their poor choices. I would continue saying what I think of you, but I don't feel like getting benched. You aren't worth it

 

[G2]

I would have to say the fact he is almost 2 years clean kind of shows that he does. IMO

If a guy is willing to do a banned substance and federally illegal drug to remedy whatever mental illness he has instead of what's actually available and legal I have a hard time putting a whole lot of stock in him. Maybe if he chose a drug with a little more withdrawal I might, but it seems he just likes getting stoned. He hasn't played in years I doubt he's going to even be effective.

 

[Aviano90]

I would have to say the fact he is almost 2 years clean kind of shows that he does. IMO

True, if he has been clean for 2 years, which we don't know and probably never will. Josh Gordan applied for reinstatement, failed a drug test during the process, was initially denied and then the NFL agreed to reinstate him 3 months later with the stipulation he needed to serve another 4 game suspension.

Just because Randy files for reinstatement does not necessarily mean he has been clean the entire time.

 

[phildadon86]

If a guy is willing to do a banned substance and federally illegal drug to remedy whatever mental illness he has instead of what's actually available and legal I have a hard time putting a whole lot of stock in him. Maybe if he chose a drug with a little more withdrawal I might, but it seems he just likes getting stoned. He hasn't played in years I doubt he's going to even be effective.

Marijuana is widely used to treat anxiety.

 

[G2]

Marijuana is widely used to treat anxiety.

I understand this, but it's a banned substance and there are other alternatives. I also don't remember an actual diagnosis.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Welcome back! ( see no reason he won't be allowed back )

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ndy-gregory-ready-to-apply-for-reinstatement/
Report: Randy Gregory ready to apply for reinstatement
Posted by Charean Williams on March 28, 2018, 6:08 PM EDT

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Cowboys defensive end Randy Gregory is close to applying for reinstatement, David Moore of the Dallas Morning News reports.

Gregory, 25, has not played in the NFL since Week 17 of the 2016 season. The NFL banned him for repeated violations of the league’s substance abuse policy.

So, mates, is he ours? Available to any team?
Scenario 1: He is allowed back to us. He relapses.
Scenario 2: he is picked by NE, placed on the practice squad, coached up and is all pro.
Never ends well for us.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Marijuana is widely used to treat anxiety.

It has replaced the after-work martini or gin and beer chaser for 80 million people.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

The NFL owes the Cowboys a pass after the Elliott debacle.

It's hard to believe that a person can lose their career over smoking weed these days. Think about the dope players are taking by "prescription" just to get moving around during the week and on the field Sunday.

Mateys, the worst thing about muggles is that kids have to associate with shady characters to get the stuff and grown-ups can lose their jobs if caught with it. Also, the cost is too high as opposed to growing it in your backyard.
Who wins during prohibition? Organized crime. And the drug counseling/rehab industry.
O, death.

 

[HungryLion]

The level of which you guys are upset at my distinction just goes to prove the personal responsibility aspect that the "disease" label was created for!

Actuallly, people with even an average intellect can’t recognize that addiction being disease, does nothing to absolve addicts from the personal responsibility to seek treatment to get their disease under control and stop using substances.

Treatment for addiction actually heavily involves the addict taking personal responsibility for their actions and choices. But again, that doesn’t mean it’s not a disease. It can both be a disease and involve the person afflicteds need to take responsibility for dealing with said disease.

It’s actually not that complicated which makes it mind boggling that you keep arguing the personal responsibility angle, as if that’s a legit argument against it being a disease.

A diabetic needs to take responsibility and watch what they eat, check their blood sugars, use their insulin, etc. if they don’t, the diabetes will continue to kill them. If they do, most diabetics can live full lives with the diabetes controlled. It doesn’t mean diabetes isn’t a disease.

 

[Ddisco22]

Please move on from this untrustworthy entity.....

Why dog the guy? Geez, he's young, they do stupid stuff. Smoked some weed, stop smoking now and he's ready to play football, that's all that matters.

 

[Bleu Star]

Why dog the guy? Geez, he's young, they do stupid stuff. Smoked some weed, stop smoking now and he's ready to play football, that's all that matters.

Not dogging him at all.....

Also not judging one iota (although some like to make it appear that way)....

He has had multiple chances and I'm ready to see who we can get in here that does have the willpower to avoid the purp for a few years.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

True, if he has been clean for 2 years, which we don't know and probably never will. Josh Gordan applied for reinstatement, failed a drug test during the process, was initially denied and then the NFL agreed to reinstate him 3 months later with the stipulation he needed to serve another 4 game suspension.

Just because Randy files for reinstatement does not necessarily mean he has been clean the entire time.

But even more backing that he has been, on top of everything else.

There's been nothing of substance to say he hasn't been clean the past two years.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Not dogging him at all.....

Also not judging one iota (although some like to make it appear that way)....

He has had multiple chances and I'm ready to see who we can get in here that does have the willpower to avoid the purp for a few years.

We have brought in guys. Gregory hasnt prevented us from doing that what so ever.

 

[Aviano90]

But even more backing that he has been, on top of everything else.

There's been nothing of substance to say he hasn't been clean the past two years.

And there probably never will be one way or the other.