News: PFT: Randy Gregory ready to apply for reinstatement

[cern]

Even if you hadn't gone through what you have gone through, the ignorance of some here is bizarre to me.

I can't tell if they think the way they do because they actually believe mental illnesses and addictions are bogus or that they simply don't like Gregory and at this point, don't want to give him any benefit of the doubt so just write off his potential addiction issues off bogus.

they are simply being judgmental. casters of the first stone. it's much easier than having to understand root causes or any other considerations.

 

[Bleu Star]

If Gregory couldn't rush the edge, are we having this conversation right now?

Can I get a witness?

Gregory should feel extremely fortunate that the Cowboys are apparently still willing to support him.

Zero trust exists in these typing fingers for him.

I wish him all the best. Go get a 9 to 5 and see how much support you get there for your setbacks.

Sooooo..... Does anyone care to honestly answer that first question?

 

[zrinkill]

IF they are on the right medications yes. If not. Hell no. I would probably have a lot of outs in that contract if it were me handing it out. I would also have stipulations on seeing a therapist or psychologist regularly.

But his medications are weed ........ and you cannot trust someone like you described to not fall off the wagon from time to time ........ in the real world that ok, people are human, but in the NFL one bad weekend will get him a permanent BAN from the NFL ...... and the team will be stuck with whatever contract he is on the hook for.

He cannot be trusted ......... he needs to just get a normal job and concentrate on fixing himself

The NFL is not for everyone ....... I wish him the best.

 

[Patrick]

I have no expectations of him, but I would be pretty annoyed if the front office kept him on the roster this long only to release him when he is finally able to play again, I know he didn't count against cap or anything but still.

It's not like he's some terrible Greg Hardy type of person beating his girlfriend, this is weed we're talking about. Give him a chance, we have absolutely nothing to lose here.

 

[Sydla]

If Gregory couldn't rush the edge, are we having this conversation right now?

Can I get a witness?

Gregory should feel extremely fortunate that the Cowboys are apparently still willing to support him.

Zero trust exists in these typing fingers for him.

I wish him all the best. Go get a 9 to 5 and see how much support you get there for your setbacks.

Sooooo..... Does anyone care to honestly answer that first question?

Why would be talking about someone with an addiction problem on this board if he weren't a football player? Your point makes no sense.

And for what it's worth, yes, people in the real world sometimes get support for their setbacks. Had a buddy whose brother was a big time attorney. He got addicted to pain pills after an accident. Law firm stuck by him and now he's back working with them and he's been clean for 4 years.

 

[aikemirv]

Robust ignorance.

Some people can turn away without help. They don't have the disease.

While addiction may be a medical condition of reliance on something, it is ignorant to call it a disease IMO. Would anyone in their right mind start anything (drugs or alcohol) when it very well could give you a "disease".

Disease is a very poor choice for addiction. You can't put it the same class as cancer or dimentia or anything like that.

Addiction would be "disease by personal choice". Nobody made you smoke that first cigarette or take that first drink!

 

[Sydla]

I have no expectations of him, but I would be pretty annoyed if the front office kept him on the roster this long only to release him when he is finally able to play again, I know he didn't count against cap or anything but still.

It's not like he's some terrible Greg Hardy type of person beating his girlfriend, this is weed we're talking about. Give him a chance, we have absolutely nothing to lose here.

Exactly.

It's simple risk/reward analysis at this point. Gregory has already failed to live up to his hype by not playing and the Cowboys have stuck by him thus far. What's the risk here? He never plays? That's already basically a sunk cost. You've gotten nothing from him to date so if you get nothing from him 5 months from now, what have you lost?

 

[Sydla]

While addiction may be a medical condition of reliance on something, it is ignorant to call it a disease IMO. Would anyone in their right mind start anything (drugs or alcohol) when it very well could give you a "disease".

Disease is a very poor choice for addiction. You can't put it the same class as cancer or dimentia or anything like that.

People know smoking can cause a disease - cancer. And yet people start and still smoke.

 

[phildadon86]

But his medications are weed ........ and you cannot trust someone like you described to not fall off the wagon from time to time ........ in the real world that ok, people are human, but in the NFL one bad weekend will get him a permanent BAN from the NFL ...... and the team will be stuck with whatever contract he is on the hook for.

He cannot be trusted ......... he needs to just get a normal job and concentrate on fixing himself

The NFL is not for everyone ....... I wish him the best.

No his medications are most likely Prozac and Sodium valproate. But thank you for showing how little you really know about mental illness.

 

[Bleu Star]

Why would be talking about someone with an addiction problem on this board if he weren't a football player? Your point makes no sense.

And for what it's worth, yes, people in the real world sometimes get support for their setbacks. Had a buddy whose brother was a big time attorney. He got addicted to pain pills after an accident. Law firm stuck by him and now he's back working with them and he's been clean for 4 years.

I was seeking an honest answer. Try again.

 

[HungryLion]

While addiction may be a medical condition of reliance on something, it is ignorant to call it a disease IMO. Would anyone in their right mind start anything (drugs or alcohol) when it very well could give you a "disease".

Disease is a very poor choice for addiction. You can't put it the same class as cancer or dimentia or anything like that.

Addiction would be "disease by personal choice". Nobody made you smoke that first cigarette or take that first drink!

It’s ignorant to call it such? Despite the decades of medical research that says the opposite? No.

What is ignorant is ignoring all of the mountains of evidence and the opinions of a large consensus of doctors around the world who say it is.

 

[KJJ]

Getting anything out of him at this point is considered a win.

We’re not going to come out with a win in this situation. We gave up a second round pick for him and he’s wasted the first three years of his career battling a drug addiction. To come out with a win he needed to prove all the doubters wrong the day we drafted him and that didn’t happen.

 

[DHCBF66]

Funny thing. These people bashing Gregory. They will be the one's acting like the KNEW he could do it if he comes back and starts destroying QB's. Seen it all too many times. The Pats met with Johnny Football, they sign him, it will be a great move because Bellechick did it. Jerry signs him, oh boy!

 

[Sydla]

I was seeking an honest answer. Try again.

LOL.

My answer was honest. Where wasn’t it honest?

 

[Aviano90]

Even if you hadn't gone through what you have gone through, the ignorance of some here is bizarre to me.

I can't tell if they think the way they do because they actually believe mental illnesses and addictions are bogus or that they simply don't like Gregory and at this point, don't want to give him any benefit of the doubt so just write off his potential addiction issues off bogus.

There's an old quote...Better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

I don't know why some people are hell bent on keeping an opinion that can be invalidated with actual facts, like they're afraid to absorb the new information, and modify their opinion based upon it.

 

[phildadon86]

It’s ignorant to call it such? Despite the decades of medical research that says the opposite? No.

What is ignorant is ignoring all of the mountains of evidence and the opinions of a large consensus of doctors around the world who say it is.

Don't bother. I am really happy to live in Canada at this point. That isn't a knock on Americans, but I mean wow. Some of the blatant disregard and lack of knowledge of mental health and addiction is actually disgusting. The company I work for sponsors a NATIONAL day to help educate people on mental illness. Almost everyone I have spoken with up north here about Randy Gregory understands the complications with bi-polar disorder and why he would use marijuana to compensate if he wasn't on the right balance of medication. On here. Hes just a weak loser.....amazing

 

[Supercowboy1986]

Whether TC in the future gets better or worse doesn’t really matter on this topic because we were looking at total snaps played not total [active] years in the league

Unfortunately for that comparison Taco was a Rookie and will only get better barring injury ..... next year will be Randy's 4th in the league and he has made no progress.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

Easy answer.

Those people are obsessed about being right to random people on the Internet than the team winning.

Makes you wonder how wrong they are in their daily lives.

There's an old quote...Better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

I don't know why some people are hell bent on keeping an opinion that can be invalidated with actual facts, like they're afraid to absorb the new information, and modify their opinion based upon it.

 

[EPL0c0]

I have no expectations of him, but I would be pretty annoyed if the front office kept him on the roster this long only to release him when he is finally able to play again, I know he didn't count against cap or anything but still.

It's not like he's some terrible Greg Hardy type of person beating his girlfriend, this is weed we're talking about. Give him a chance, we have absolutely nothing to lose here.

There really is no negative here for Dallas.

Another failed test, oh well, he hasn't been around anyway.

He just can't make an impact (even as depth), oh well, he hasn't been around anyway.

BUT, if he's serious, if he's clean, if he can provide depth, it's a positive b/c he is still relatively cheap.

AND if he does finally get his head & body together, he'd be a RFA after this year, so there could be value.

 

[aikemirv]

It’s ignorant to call it such? Despite the decades of medical research that says the opposite? No.

What is ignorant is ignoring all of the mountains of evidence and the opinions of a large consensus of doctors around the world who say it is.

Again, addiction is a medical condition for sure., but you contract diseases, you don't go out and willingly take stuff that will give them to you!. There is a huge distinction!

calling it a disease is a cop-out for poor choices!