PFT: Reeves: “Coaches Never Punch A Clock”

[Monster Heel]

This was just Jerry being business savvy and having the sense not to get fleeced. What exactly would Reeves have done as a consultant anyway? I could easily see someone in this role just stopping through Valley Ranch a once or twice a week, not really doing anything and collecting a check for it.

 

[big dog cowboy]

“But for some reason, Jerry felt like he had to [have in writing] that I work as many, or more, hours as the head coach [Wade Phillips] and offensive coordinator [Jason Garrett]. That meant, at any time, [Jones] could say, ‘You didn’t work as many hours as Wade did yesterday, therefore, you’ve voided your contract.’”

Is it just me, or does that make zero sense?

 

[CATCH17]

Is it just me, or does that make zero sense?

Makes perfect management sense to me.

Jerry isn't dumb.

I wouldn't pay a million bucks for someone to just half *** the job and not get their hours in.

Punch your card. Do your work. Punch out.

Who do these guys think they are to think they are to good to have to do that?

 

[Hypnotoad]

Man wanted an easy paycheck and got called out...

It would be irresponsible for jerry to just give this guy millions without any measure of how much effort and time he was putting in as a 'consultant.'

Aren't all us forum posters 'consultants'?

 

[Bluefin]

This was just Jerry being business savvy and having the sense not to get fleeced. What exactly would Reeves have done as a consultant anyway? I could easily see someone in this role just stopping through Valley Ranch a once or twice a week, not really doing anything and collecting a check for it.

Maybe that is what Jerry Jones was worried about.

But Dan Reeves has been wanting to get back into coaching and even turned down the Niners because he thought the Dallas gig was gong to be his.

And would anyone have been worried about Reeves putting the time in?

Would he take a dump on the team that gave him his start as a player and coach? Would he do a disservice to his long time friend and coaching assistant, Wade Phillips?

I think it was just a case of something or someone changing Jerry Jones' mind.

 

[21Savage]

Maybe that is what Jerry Jones was worried about.

But Dan Reeves has been wanting to get back into coaching and even turned down the Niners because he thought the Dallas gig was gong to be his.

And would anyone have been worried about Reeves putting the time in?

Would he take a dump on the team that gave him his start as a player and coach? Would he do a disservice to his long time friend and coaching assistant, Wade Phillips?

I think it was just a case of something or someone changing Jerry Jones' mind.

Yeah, but why would any body who truly was into the game at this point and was ready to get in the grind turn down an OC position for the role of a consultant?

I don't think Jerry has made 1 wrong move this season? At first, I really wanted Reeves to baby sit Garrett but looking back at it now-and factoring in the release of TO-I think we can do without him

 

[dcfanatic]

Makes perfect management sense to me.

Jerry isn't dumb.

I wouldn't pay a million bucks for someone to just half *** the job and not get their hours in.

Punch your card. Do your work. Punch out.

Who do these guys think they are to think they are to good to have to do that?

It's Dan Reeves, not joe schmoe.

 

[dcfanatic]

Man wanted an easy paycheck and got called out...

It would be irresponsible for jerry to just give this guy millions without any measure of how much effort and time he was putting in as a 'consultant.'

Aren't all us forum posters 'consultants'?

Yeah, he doesn't already have enough money.

You are lost.

He wanted to be treated with some respect.

Jerry didn't want Wade having a partner who would be first in line when Wade had some questions to ask.

Why?

Because then Jerry is one more step away from actually being the coach.

Simple.

 

[InmanRoshi]

A nebulous contract clause + a nebulous title + a nebulous role = Jerry didn't really want him here.

 

[InmanRoshi]

This was just Jerry being business savvy and having the sense not to get fleeced. What exactly would Reeves have done as a consultant anyway? I could easily see someone in this role just stopping through Valley Ranch a once or twice a week, not really doing anything and collecting a check for it.

Dan Reeves has been in professional football for almost 45 years. He probably has a long line of references around the league to verify if he's lazy or not. The fact that he's been around for 45 years tells me he's not.

If that's really how Jerry felt Dan Reeves conducts business, just showing up once or twice a week and picking up a paycheck, then there's absolutely no reason he should have ever picked up the phone to contact him in the first place.

Jerry just didn't really want him.

 

[tunahelper]

I side with Jerry on this deal. If Reeves is a consultant and he has duties that are in his words not coaching related then he should have set work hours. It isnt that strange to me.

 

[Hostile]

I am still upset at Jerry that this fell apart.

 

[NeonNinja]

It seems it's Reeves that made it fall apart Hos.

 

[CATCH17]

It seems it's Reeves that made it fall apart Hos.

Yep.

He thought he was to good to punch a time card so he got to punch his ticket out of town.

Its on him that he is not here.

 

[cowboyed]

Yeah, he doens't already have enough money.

You are lost.

He wanted to be treated with some respect.

Jerry didn't want Wade having a partner who would be first in line when Wade had some questions to ask.

Why?

Because then Jerry is one more step away from actually being the coach.

Simple.

And you base this on what, your insight and intuition? Reeves pretty much stated that he didn't want his hours stipulated. At that level it shouldn't be an issue. No one at Valley Ranch made this an issue but Reeves. Maybe Jerry was a little sick and tired of some coaches not making the time commitment.

I have an employment agreement and it stipulates the minimum hours I need to work in exchange for compensation and benefits. I have no problem with it and neither does the majority of the US work force.

As far as Jerry wanting to be coach that is so overhyped and unfounded. A number of coaches including Avezzano indicated that Jerry does not want to coach but hey you know better....

Jerry is an active owner and general manager and he is fulfilling his obligations to the max no doubt. And whether you agree with his role or not that doesn't mean he has designs on coaching every opportunity he gets.

 

[jterrell]

I am still upset at Jerry that this fell apart.

I was at first but now I am not at all.

I was intrigued by Reeves going in but honestly this hard-headedness he displays over this time issue is a perfectly good reason to move on without him.

The last thing this teams needs is more overbearing egos.

Jerry has hired and fired lots of guys and exactly how mnay felt they got cheated financially?

Reeves was expected to work a coaches hours and he was gonan be paid a coordinator's salary.

As I suggested when this broke down it probably had to do with Reeves wanting to spent time in Atlanta and thus the break down.

If Reeves wanted a lesser salary as a consultant he could have had it. But he didn't. As he asked for more money came the extra stipulations.

I can see why Reeves asked what he did. He'd be losing 2 or 3 salaries he had coming in and wanted to at least replace those. End of the day this just wasn't the deal for either guy.

 

[theogt]

A nebulous contract clause + a nebulous title + a nebulous role = Jerry didn't really want him here.

Actually, it's quite the opposite.

We already know that they'd hammered out in the contract his role and title. And Jerry wanted even more details by nailing down how much of an effort he was going to put in.

 

[CATCH17]

Actually, it's quite the opposite.

We already know that they'd hammered out in the contract his role and title. And Jerry wanted even more details by nailing down how much of an effort he was going to put in.

Yeah its sounded like Jerry wanted his *** there. Literally.

 

[jterrell]

Actually, it's quite the opposite.

We already know that they'd hammered out in the contract his role and title. And Jerry wanted even more details by nailing down how much of an effort he was going to put in.

It amazes me that the fans of the media who follow every interview so closely they can recap them forget what was actually stated int hem by the partie's involved.

Reeves said Jerry agreed to everything he asked and that once he asked for additional things Jerry felt the need for this clause.

Reeves was going to be an offensive consultant with pay equaling a OC role.

Jerry makes some odd decisions at time but he is not stupid with money. He wasn't gonna offer over a mil a year to someone who comes and goes as they please. Jerry has had as many NFL consultants as anyone and knows the issues and costs.

Reeves was gonna be an offensive game assistant on the same level as Garrett and you can't sign him to a deal without the language present in all other coaches' contracts on this staff.

No other coach has publicly complained about hours stipulations.

 

[Hypnotoad]

Yeah, he doesn't already have enough money.

You are lost.

He wanted to be treated with some respect.

Jerry didn't want Wade having a partner who would be first in line when Wade had some questions to ask.

Why?

Because then Jerry is one more step away from actually being the coach.

Simple.

“I just couldn’t sign something that would mean I’d be working day-to-day.

Sounds like all he wanted was to get paid with little to no work. Nothing disrespectful about knowing how much actual work he put into the job.