PFT: Simple restructuring of Dak's contract doesn't solve Cowboys' problem

[Rockport]

Oh I agree but can they get it done by the start of free agency? That's the pickle they are facing.........otherwise, they are forced to get below the cap other ways.

They will get it done by free agency and it will be a team friendly deal.

 

[conner01]

They are going to extend him. I have accepted that reality now.

Sure they are. It’s the only logical solution

 

[conner01]

https://overthecap.com/restructure#:~:text=A simple restructure converts payments into prorated signing,restructures without any action necessary from the player.

Dallas could hypothetically create 65mil in cap space if they did simple restructures across the roster.
99mil if they did max restructures and added void years.

Then all that money comes due after the player is gone. Teams do restructures with void years because they know where the cap is going. But at some point it all comes due

 

[Chasing6]

There is no loss of negotiating power by restructuring and agreeing to additional void years, if he even has that power in his contract.
He's still an unrestricted free agent at the end of the year with no ability of a franchise tag.

His negotiating power is to force Dallas to extend him or to pay $58M this year and have little to no cap space to do anything in free agency.

No way he agrees to any of that nonsense.

 

[John813]

His negotiating power is to force Dallas to extend him or to pay $58M this year and have little to no cap space to do anything in free agency.

No way he agrees to any of that nonsense.

Dallas isn't paying him 58 million this year.
The amount of money he'll take home this year is 29mil in base salary and a 5mil roster bonus for a grand total of 34mil.
The 58mil(59.45mil) cap hit includes 25mil in prorated bonuses that were paid out previously but stick to the teams cap hit, not payroll.

What nonsense are you talking about?
It makes sense to restructure as he gets a bulk of that money right now in Feb/March and still can walk in 25.
By doing a max restructure he can allow the Cowboys to gain as much cap space in 24, while still taking home $34mil, the exact same pay he was going to get if he didn't restructure.


Furthermore, by restructuring, it does force Dallas to come to an agreement on an extension as if they let the contract void, they will be stuck with a 55mil dead cap hit for 2025, which would force a retool of sorts or extreme restructuring a la the Saints. If they extend him, there's still prorated bonuses from the original contract/restructures but at least they can play with the new contract bonus structuring and minimum base salaries to get by with a lower cap hits in the first few years.

 

[John813]

Then all that money comes due after the player is gone. Teams do restructures with void years because they know where the cap is going. But at some point it all comes due

It was an extreme example of how Dallas can free up cap space to go, "all in" to win one in 2024 if they wanted to.

 

[Chasing6]

Dallas isn't paying him 58 million this year.
The amount of money he'll take home this year is 29mil in base salary and a 5mil roster bonus for a grand total of 34mil.
The 58mil(59.45mil) cap hit includes 25mil in prorated bonuses that were paid out previously but stick to the teams cap hit, not payroll.

What nonsense are you talking about?
It makes sense to restructure as he gets a bulk of that money right now in Feb/March and still can walk in 25.
By doing a max restructure he can allow the Cowboys to gain as much cap space in 24, while still taking home $34mil, the exact same pay he was going to get if he didn't restructure.


Furthermore, by restructuring, it does force Dallas to come to an agreement on an extension as if they let the contract void, they will be stuck with a 55mil dead cap hit for 2025, which would force a retool of sorts or extreme restructuring a la the Saints. If they extend him, there's still prorated bonuses from the original contract/restructures but at least they can play with the new contract bonus structuring and minimum base salaries to get by with a lower cap hits in the first few years.

Jeruh's cap for Dak is $58M this year. That does not affect Dak. That affects GM Jeruh. If Dak is gone next year, he could care less about GM Jeruh's cap issues.

Dak is not hurting for money. He does not need a bulk of anything right now.

Nothing you have said is beneficial to Dak, to GM Jeruh. It is not going to happen. Have you seen the last contract GM Jeruh gave Dak? This time Jeruh is even in a deeper hole.

Guaranteed Dak and his Agent are 100% prepared and comfortable playing out his last year of his contract and being a free agent.

 

[John813]

Jeruh's cap for Dak is $58M this year. That does not affect Dak. That affects GM Jeruh. If Dak is gone next year, he could care less about GM Jeruh's cap issues.

Dak is not hurting for money. He does not need a bulk of anything right now.

Nothing you have said is beneficial to Dak, to GM Jeruh. It is not going to happen. Have you seen the last contract GM Jeruh gave Dak? This time Jeruh is even in a deeper hole.

Guaranteed Dak and his Agent are 100% prepared and comfortable playing out his last year of his contract and being a free agent.

My point about going to Dak would be to add additional void years to try to gain more than what they could now under a simple restructure.
Adding void years may require the players approval. It may not.
Regardless, he will get restructured at some point to lower his cap hit. Dallas doesn't move fast enough to get an extension in play in ~3-4 weeks.

Dallas uses the restructure option a lot. I highly doubt there's any exception to Dak's to do a simple restructure without his approval.
They've done it every year to his deal, including a few months after he signed his deal.

They can be prepared to play out his last year, but I doubt it'll be at a 59.45mil cap hit.

 

[jterrell]

So who's right, who's wrong? Florio or the Zone cap experts?

History says Florio is wrong. Like the Dez he tape he personally saw.................

 

[Jarv]

Dallas needs a professional managing these things, not someone who does it as a hobby.

It's mind boggling that the GM has put Dallas in the position it's in.

Agreed and I've said multiple times myself that we have a part time GM that focuses on both Cowboys ownership and AT&T management plus the brand compared to a full time GM who would probably spend 50 hours/week on just the GM responsibilities.

 

[Chasing6]

My point about going to Dak would be to add additional void years to try to gain more than what they could now under a simple restructure.
Adding void years may require the players approval. It may not.
Regardless, he will get restructured at some point to lower his cap hit. Dallas doesn't move fast enough to get an extension in play in ~3-4 weeks.

Dallas uses the restructure option a lot. I highly doubt there's any exception to Dak's to do a simple restructure without his approval.
They've done it every year to his deal, including a few months after he signed his deal.

They can be prepared to play out his last year, but I doubt it'll be at a 59.45mil cap hit.

That would be Dak giving away his negotiating power. I can 100% see why Jeruh would want to do this, however it does not benefit Dak.

Dak wants to be a QB for Dallas for life. He is not going to help them create a plan for his exit. If they want to move on from him, his Agent will make it as painful as possible.

Dak being a free agent on the open market next year is not a bad thing for him. He will most likely make more money than he would in Dallas, unless he want to take less for a legit contender.

I also seen a crazy 3 way trade proposal today for Dak to go to the Bears and Dallas's getting a top QB in the draft.(wait a minute, what happened Trance). Dak has a no trade clause. If he wants to go to the Bears he can be simple wait until next year and does not have to give up draft picks. Why would Dak want to go to the bears with no draft picks.

All of these fantasy/illusion ideas can be created and some are entertaining to listen to. However, it does not change the facts.

Dak and his agent have all the cards. Jeruh can try all he wants to be a tough negotiater. The clock is running out on Jeruh, not Dak.

Dak and his agent will act like they are more than happy to play out his final year of his contract and take his chances in free agency.

GM Jeruh is stuck. It has been Check-Mate from day 1 when he signed the contract.

 

[jazzcat22]

No matter what happens, it will create 10 pages of 100 pages each of threads.
And the same things will be repeated each one.
off-season entertainment.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Dallas isn't paying him 58 million this year.
The amount of money he'll take home this year is 29mil in base salary and a 5mil roster bonus for a grand total of 34mil.
The 58mil(59.45mil) cap hit includes 25mil in prorated bonuses that were paid out previously but stick to the teams cap hit, not payroll.

What nonsense are you talking about?
It makes sense to restructure as he gets a bulk of that money right now in Feb/March and still can walk in 25.
By doing a max restructure he can allow the Cowboys to gain as much cap space in 24, while still taking home $34mil, the exact same pay he was going to get if he didn't restructure.


Furthermore, by restructuring, it does force Dallas to come to an agreement on an extension as if they let the contract void, they will be stuck with a 55mil dead cap hit for 2025, which would force a retool of sorts or extreme restructuring a la the Saints. If they extend him, there's still prorated bonuses from the original contract/restructures but at least they can play with the new contract bonus structuring and minimum base salaries to get by with a lower cap hits in the first few years.

 

[Hadenough]

Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, I mean what else do you need to see!!?? Proof is in the pudding, i'd rather go through the growing pains

Very good point! The sooner the growing pains begin the sooner this team can start to recover. They need to let Dak go. Let him screw up another franchise for years.

 

[Captain-Crash]

It’s not easy to build a Super Bowl winner with that many cap dollars tied up in one person. For nearly 30 years, the Cowboys haven’t been able to build a Super Bowl winner without that many cap dollars tied up in one person.

Nothing more needs to be said.

 

[DrlabonAggiesCowboys]

I would not extend. Restructure other players contracts to free up cap space as best you can. Draft well and get Trey Lance ready to compete for 2025. Then you have a QB on a smaller contract and the ability to go all-in in 2025.

 

[75boyz]

A simple contract re-structure don't fix the Owner/GM's historically piss poor job at overall team roster construction.

Or this Head Coach sucking at playoff football.
Or this Quarterback sucking at playoff football.

Fix those 3 things and we might be onto something.

Heck, I'd settle for fixing any one of those 3 things in order to feel as though we had a fresh start to be excited about. Rather than the purgatory we have been in and continue to be in.

 

[Chasing6]

I would not extend. Restructure other players contracts to free up cap space as best you can. Draft well and get Trey Lance ready to compete for 2025. Then you have a QB on a smaller contract and the ability to go all-in in 2025.

All in with Trance? Because he is a phenom correct?

 

[Sandyf]

Only thing about Dak's contract in 2024 is that Dallas can convert his base salary to mostly bonus and make it over 3 seasons because of the 2 void years. They don't need Dak's permission for this as it us part of his contract.

It would help this year but just pushes it down the road. It would gives us an extra 21 million on the cap this year so I would expect the Jones to do this by March 13th. With the cap now set at $255.4 million, our salaries for top 51 players put us at $3 million over the cap so executing the conversion on his contract puts us at $18 million under the cap.

To be sure, they will extend Lamb and others as needed when we resign some of our free agents and then other UFAs after March 13th. In truth Dallas could easily free up $50/$60 million if they want.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

superbowl!!! how? with Jerry in charge. I just can't see it happening

Oh come now, Rome wasn't built in a day! Jerry's only had 28 years to get it done, what do you expect, instant results?

Have some patience!