PFT: Skins' Godfrey blast Belichick for score...Belichick responds

wileedog;1733978 said:
If he does, at that point you have a case. And what's the difference anyway?

And more so, why do you even have your starters out there anymore? Why are you calling onside kicks and throwing the ball?

You are just as big a moron if Cooley gets hurt in that situation as Bill for running his starters out there.

It goes both ways, you try to win the game. If your not trying, your not doing your job. Blah, blah, blah. They have the right to try and get the score "reasonable".
 
utrunner07;1733965 said:
yeah or maybe they knew they were beat and were just trying to get a touchdown on the board and make it look respectable

So 45-0 is an embarassment, but 45-7 is "respectable"? In what world?


So if you've completely worn the other team's defense down, and you're just getting 8-12 yards per carry rrunning the ball right up their gut every play and punking them in front of their mamma, their children and their wives on national TV .. is it "fair" to keep running it?
 
for all I'm concerned, Belichick did us a favor, made the Skins look very inferior, and for that I thank him

but of course I would be pissed if we played that bad and the Pats ran the score on us like that too
 
Patriots were up 52-0, but Gibbs still had his starting offense out there. He was still throwing deep, still trying to score. For crying out loud, when they finally put 7 on the board, he went for the onside kick.

So if the team down by 52 points still isn't quitting, why should the team that's winning quit?

Now, if Gibbs had come out with his backup when they were down 45-0, started running the ball and taking his time, my bet is Belichek would have reciprocated.
 
He has a point or points?

Whoever said that tell me this...


When you are beating a team by 30 points... what can you possibly do better?

Score another 20?

What purpose does that serve?

Now answer this, what can possibly go wrong by keeping your starters on the field up 30+?

A million things but to name the big one,

AN INJURY. Whether its an accidental injury or a very PO'ed 300 pound DL who wants to take his anger from EMBARRASSMENT out on your stud QB.

Enlighten us?
 
TheSkaven;1733989 said:
Patriots were up 52-0, but Gibbs still had his starting offense out there. He was still throwing deep, still trying to score. For crying out loud, when they finally put 7 on the board, he went for the onside kick.

So if the team down by 52 points still isn't quitting, why should the team that's winning quit?

Now, if Gibbs had come out with his backup when they were down 45-0, started running the ball and taking his time, my bet is Belichek would have reciprocated.

I was surprised the Skins didn't go for two.:D
 
Is this suddenly the preseason where teams have 20 other players to put in when the starters are sucking? This is the regular season people. The patriots ran up the score like they ran it up against Miami, us, and the Browns.

Of course the Commanders aren't trying to get shut out.
 
air0208;1733983 said:
It goes both ways, you try to win the game. If your not trying, your not doing your job. Blah, blah, blah. They have the right to try and get the score "reasonable".

And my team has the right not to let that happen.

And again, as Roshi pointed out, total points matter come playoff tie breaker time.

Although I will grant you that doesn't seem much of an issue in the Pats division.

Still, I have zero obligation, and really its kind of dumb to be honest, to let your team back in the game in any way, even for 'respect'

The right thing to do when you are down 45-0 in the 4th quarter is pull your starters. If you don't, its not my problem.
 
TheSkaven;1733989 said:
Patriots were up 52-0, but Gibbs still had his starting offense out there. He was still throwing deep, still trying to score. For crying out loud, when they finally put 7 on the board, he went for the onside kick.

So if the team down by 52 points still isn't quitting, why should the team that's winning quit?

Now, if Gibbs had come out with his backup when they were down 45-0, started running the ball and taking his time, my bet is Belichek would have reciprocated.

I dare you to go to the patriots backups and tell them that the team is pretty much "quitting" when BB puts them in the game.

in other words, if you put your backups in, its not quitting.
 
I think fans cross the line when they wish physical harm on players because of their perceived arrogance. I see arrogance all the time from average people in public. Am I to wish that person has their leg broken? I understand the passion for the game, and the emotion involved, but that sort of thinking is no different than the very thing you're outraged over.
 
CanadianCowboysFan;1733996 said:
As for no lead being safe, I think 38-0 with less than a quarter to go is safe.

Not if you take your starters out and just kneel down like some people wanted the Patriots to do. Parcells might play like that and it cost us a couple of games as he was playing for FGs with more than a quarter to go and a 10-point lead.

Honestly, what difference does it make to the sorry Commanders whether they get beat 38-0 or 52-7? They got creamed and they should just shut up and play harder next time. Whining about it won't change anything.
 
air0208;1734002 said:
I dare you to go to the patriots backups and tell them that the team is pretty much "quitting" when BB puts them in the game.

in other words, if you put your backups in, its not quitting.

Its not quitting, its acknowledging that the game at this point is not about the final outcome, its about not getting anyone important injured.
 
wileedog;1734000 said:
And my team has the right not to let that happen.

And again, as Roshi pointed out, total points matter come playoff tie breaker time.

Although I will grant you that doesn't seem much of an issue in the Pats division.

Still, I have zero obligation, and really its kind of dumb to be honest, to let your team back in the game in any way, even for 'respect'

The right thing to do when you are down 45-0 in the 4th quarter is pull your starters. If you don't, its not my problem.


When you are up by 52 points, in the 4th quarter, trust me, NO TEAM will get back in the game.

NO TEAM has scored more than 41 points in a quarter. Happened in 1945, and 1950. That is 2 times in 87 years of the NFL.
 
When you are beating a team by 30 points... what can you possibly do better?

Score another 20?

What purpose does that serve?

Just about every game the Patriots played have been "over" (by your standards) by the 3rd quarter. So what is BB supposed to do? Bench the entire first team in the mid 3rd quarter every week? Get the team used to only playing one half with maximum effort every week? And what happens when your team gets acclimated to that and then suddenly faces a team that takes them to the 4th quarter, and you team wilts because you were more concerned about being a "good guy" than getting your team prepared for what it has to do to win a championship.

The worst thing that can happen to a really good team is to start thinking that they can turn it on and off at their discretion. So if I'm a coach, I'm making my team practice every day at 100%, play every snap at 100% and play every game at 100% with maximum effort until the final whistle. That's what championship teams do, and that's what BB's job is ... to win a championship for the players and coaches who bust their butts every day for him, not spare the other inferior team's feelings.
 
air0208;1734010 said:
When you are up by 52 points, in the 4th quarter, trust me, NO TEAM will get back in the game.

NO TEAM has scored more than 41 points in a quarter. Happened in 1945, and 1950. That is 2 times in 87 years of the NFL.

So why does Gibbs have his starters in there, why is he throwing the ball, and why is he calling for onside kicks?

If you play this like you still think you can win, I'm going to show you why you can't.

Although I will say in your defense that I think they are chasing the TD records for Brady.
 
I agree with Godfrey on this. The game was out of hand and not even close. The Pats could have easily just run the ball and ended the game as quick as possible. Still throwing deep late in the 4th was just classless.

They were dealing with the skins...a team not known for scoring, especially in the passing game, lol. This is nothing new though, we all know how classless Belicheat is and that is nothing new.
 
smarta5150;1734015 said:
I still wanna here 1 good thing that results in running up the score.

I want to hear one good thing about making your team quit in the 3rd quarter. How does playing half arsed football prepare your team for a championship run, exactly?
 

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