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PFW: Three of the Top 10 Draft Picks Admit to Smoking Marijuana
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theogt;1460193 said:
I think it's interesting that you hear things about these players having question marks about there "laid-back" attitude and how that somehow translates into no passion for the game in Adams' case. With Okoye, it's work ethic and fluctuations in weight.
In Adams, you got a guy who has 22 sacks and 118 tackles in two seasons. A 6-4, 260 lbs man who can lay down a 4.6 40 but he's got no passion.
You can say the same thing about Okoye. 302 pounds, runs 4.88 and produced an 8 sack, 55 tackle season last year, was 16 years old when he started playing D1 college football and will be only 20 by the time he completes his first NFL season but he's got issues with weight and work eithic. A 16 year old boy has entered college, played a major sport and graduated but he's got issues with his work ethic?
These guys sound an awful lot like Alan Branch to me.
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I would be more worried about players who don't admit to expirimenting w/ weed, since those who have 'fessed up to it are probably not smoking dope currently and have given it up
btw, Johnson could admit to beastiality and he would still go top 2
btw, Johnson could admit to beastiality and he would still go top 2
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willing to be 7-8 of them actually do it.
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Bob Sacamano;1460291 said:
Thats hillarious and true.
Could you see matt millen at the lions draft pc saying, yeah I know calvin has a fetish for domestic cats and rare penguins, but he is a good player and we feel this is best for this organization.
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theebs;1460319 said:
hell, just being a WR is good enough for Millen, character and team needs be damned :laugh1:
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Did they use it for medical reasons?
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Hostile;1460199 said:
Welcome to America- version 2007.
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You can argue about how dangerous or not pot is, and all the legal garbage you want, but the bottom line is this: they test for it in the NFL, its a banned substance, and you will get suspended for it. THAT is what matters. Its an exageration that some make that EVERYONE does it- that is BS and just discredits whoever says it. MANY do, but that is not the point: as long as it was just experimentation or whatever, its no big deal. BUT I bet it makes everyone look a little closer at what they have on those 3. No one wants any grief if they can avoid it.
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I have no issue with a person who has smoked weed in the past as long as it remains in the past. Each of these guys has a chance to have big careers in the NFL and it is time to put away childish things. When your career is over if this is what you want to do then that is their business but for now take advantage of what is a short career to begin with
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POSTED 7:56 p.m. EDT; LAST UPDATED 8:29 p.m. EDT, April 18, 2007
JOHNSON, ADAMS, OKOYE ADMIT TO MARIJUANA USE
Pro Football Weekly reports that three consensus top-ten draft picks -- receiver Calvin Johnson, defensive end Gaines Adams, and defensive tackle Amobi Okoye -- admitted during their scouting combine interviews that they have used marijuana.
Adam Schefter of NFL Network also reports on the Okoye admission. Schefter obtained confirmation from Okoye's agent, Ian Greengross.
We reported on Tuesday that there were multiple players in the top ten who had admitted to smoking pot. The player to whom we were referring in our initial story on the matter was Johnson. We don't have the sufficient legal defense fund, however, to break a story of that ilk.
The PFW story says that the players have admitted to using marijuana. As to Johnson, we heard only that he admitted to experimenting with it.
The reaction to the news is mixed. League sources who contacted us regarding the issue on Tuesday took a ho-hum approach.
Johnson is the most surprising of the trio, and it's the only cloud (pun intended) over an otherwise spotless background. But it's still not enough to make him, in our view, anything other than the No. 1 prospect in the draft.
An obvious question that arises regarding this issue is whether the admission is enough to qualify a guy for inclusion in the league's substance-abuse program. The answer is: It depends.
Behavior can be enough, as Randy Moss almost found out in 2005. After admitting to smoking marijuana "once in a blue moon," Randy's handlers had to do some fancy verbal dancing to keep him out of the program.
POSTED 4:17 p.m. EDT, April 17, 2007
SCOUTS GETTING NUMB TO POT SMOKING?
We've gotten plenty of feedback from our sources regarding news that league insiders are attributing an admission of marijuana use to a blue-chip NFL draft prospect.
Multiple league sources believe that it's no big deal.
Said one source: "For what it's worth, there is more than one player in the top 10 who has admitted smoking pot. It's really not that big of a story, sadly enough."
Said another: "Marijuana is as American as baseball and apple pie. It's like masturbation; some admit it and the rest are liars." (Our source didn't say which category he occupies -- and we don't want to know.)
We're not quite sure what to make of this, other than to say that there's a lot of common sense to it. If plenty of guys are going to smoke marijuana and if there's no way to get them to stop, then at some point it becomes pointless to make an issue out of it.
Does anyone really think that the threat of periodic testing is keeping players who want to smoke pot from smoking it? There are ways to beat the test; otherwise, Onterrio Smith never would have purchased a Whizzinator. And there are times when a guy who isn't in "the program" can smoke with impunity; otherwise, Pacman Jones wouldn't have (allegedly) told a police officer in early 2006 that he knows when to quit smoking hooch in advance of his pre-season testing.
Either the NFL should commit sufficient resources to eradicate marijuana users from the league, or the league should drop the prohibition on marijuana smoking. In our view, having a rule on the books that no one cares about isn't acceptable. The league must come up with an effective way to get pot out of the game, or quit trying to do so.
POSTED 2:45 p.m. EDT, April 16, 2007
WILL A BLUE-CHIPPER BE SAPPED?
In 1995, defensive tackle Warren Sapp slid all the way to No. 12 in the draft in the wake of false rumors that he had failed a drug test.
In 2007, there are fresh rumors making the rounds that a blue-chipper admitted during a league-conducted combine interview to experimentation with marijuana while in college.
Though there's nothing wrong with an isolated youthful indiscretion (and, for the record, we never inhaled), the admission raises questions of whether the player in question is stoopid. In the NFL, a guy is regarded as a user only if pot is detected in his system or if he misses a test or if he's in the possession of marijuana (and/or a prosthetic pecker aimed at the production of a clean pee sample).
On one hand, his honesty is refreshing. On the other hand, honesty might need to be ignored when the potential consequences are the millions of dollars in contract value that can be forever lost if a player plummets.
Then again, we're not sure whether the player even made the admission, and we're trying to track down the truth. One league source says that two teams have told him that the admission was made, and that it appears in the transcript of the interview. Another team tells us that the transcript contains no such statement.
For now, the story is either that the kid made the admission, or that someone is trying to smear him, presumably in the hopes that he'll fall.
Or, by claiming that the transcript contains no admission of marijuana experimentation, someone could be trying to prop the player up, so that he won't slide.
Regardless, each team is in a position to judge for themselves whether the rumor is true. As a league source tells us, every team has a copy of the taped interviews.
JOHNSON, ADAMS, OKOYE ADMIT TO MARIJUANA USE
Pro Football Weekly reports that three consensus top-ten draft picks -- receiver Calvin Johnson, defensive end Gaines Adams, and defensive tackle Amobi Okoye -- admitted during their scouting combine interviews that they have used marijuana.
Adam Schefter of NFL Network also reports on the Okoye admission. Schefter obtained confirmation from Okoye's agent, Ian Greengross.
We reported on Tuesday that there were multiple players in the top ten who had admitted to smoking pot. The player to whom we were referring in our initial story on the matter was Johnson. We don't have the sufficient legal defense fund, however, to break a story of that ilk.
The PFW story says that the players have admitted to using marijuana. As to Johnson, we heard only that he admitted to experimenting with it.
The reaction to the news is mixed. League sources who contacted us regarding the issue on Tuesday took a ho-hum approach.
Johnson is the most surprising of the trio, and it's the only cloud (pun intended) over an otherwise spotless background. But it's still not enough to make him, in our view, anything other than the No. 1 prospect in the draft.
An obvious question that arises regarding this issue is whether the admission is enough to qualify a guy for inclusion in the league's substance-abuse program. The answer is: It depends.
Behavior can be enough, as Randy Moss almost found out in 2005. After admitting to smoking marijuana "once in a blue moon," Randy's handlers had to do some fancy verbal dancing to keep him out of the program.
POSTED 4:17 p.m. EDT, April 17, 2007
SCOUTS GETTING NUMB TO POT SMOKING?
We've gotten plenty of feedback from our sources regarding news that league insiders are attributing an admission of marijuana use to a blue-chip NFL draft prospect.
Multiple league sources believe that it's no big deal.
Said one source: "For what it's worth, there is more than one player in the top 10 who has admitted smoking pot. It's really not that big of a story, sadly enough."
Said another: "Marijuana is as American as baseball and apple pie. It's like masturbation; some admit it and the rest are liars." (Our source didn't say which category he occupies -- and we don't want to know.)
We're not quite sure what to make of this, other than to say that there's a lot of common sense to it. If plenty of guys are going to smoke marijuana and if there's no way to get them to stop, then at some point it becomes pointless to make an issue out of it.
Does anyone really think that the threat of periodic testing is keeping players who want to smoke pot from smoking it? There are ways to beat the test; otherwise, Onterrio Smith never would have purchased a Whizzinator. And there are times when a guy who isn't in "the program" can smoke with impunity; otherwise, Pacman Jones wouldn't have (allegedly) told a police officer in early 2006 that he knows when to quit smoking hooch in advance of his pre-season testing.
Either the NFL should commit sufficient resources to eradicate marijuana users from the league, or the league should drop the prohibition on marijuana smoking. In our view, having a rule on the books that no one cares about isn't acceptable. The league must come up with an effective way to get pot out of the game, or quit trying to do so.
POSTED 2:45 p.m. EDT, April 16, 2007
WILL A BLUE-CHIPPER BE SAPPED?
In 1995, defensive tackle Warren Sapp slid all the way to No. 12 in the draft in the wake of false rumors that he had failed a drug test.
In 2007, there are fresh rumors making the rounds that a blue-chipper admitted during a league-conducted combine interview to experimentation with marijuana while in college.
Though there's nothing wrong with an isolated youthful indiscretion (and, for the record, we never inhaled), the admission raises questions of whether the player in question is stoopid. In the NFL, a guy is regarded as a user only if pot is detected in his system or if he misses a test or if he's in the possession of marijuana (and/or a prosthetic pecker aimed at the production of a clean pee sample).
On one hand, his honesty is refreshing. On the other hand, honesty might need to be ignored when the potential consequences are the millions of dollars in contract value that can be forever lost if a player plummets.
Then again, we're not sure whether the player even made the admission, and we're trying to track down the truth. One league source says that two teams have told him that the admission was made, and that it appears in the transcript of the interview. Another team tells us that the transcript contains no such statement.
For now, the story is either that the kid made the admission, or that someone is trying to smear him, presumably in the hopes that he'll fall.
Or, by claiming that the transcript contains no admission of marijuana experimentation, someone could be trying to prop the player up, so that he won't slide.
Regardless, each team is in a position to judge for themselves whether the rumor is true. As a league source tells us, every team has a copy of the taped interviews.