That is it exactly. It doesn't mean I don't love them. I've just never had a pleasant experience around people in that condition. I've been thrown up on, hit, threatened, insulted, judged, and even beaten. The memories are never good, let's put it that way.Hoov;1461521 said:I understand what Hostile is saying and see his point of view.
If you are sober or not intoxicated it is no fun to be around people that are drunk or high.
I enjoy beer and etoh, but when my brother calls me up and ge is hammered, he is a downright pain in the arse to deal with. I Love him, but i end up hanging up the phone because he keeps screaming the same thing over and over again in my ear and laughing and when i try to say something he talks over me and gets louder.
And it is the same for people that are high on something. If you are not or dont indulge, why would you enjoy being around others who are.
i dont judge because i have done all kinds of stuff in the past. And i dont think of any of it as being morally right or wrong. Its a decision, and it doesnt make you any less moral if you decide to indulge, but it does compromise your ability to function and there is always a consequence to your actions. Even though pot seems harmless it will make you lazy, if you want to lay around and smoke it, i dont think that is amoral, but you are deciding that you want to tune out for a bit, and the more frequently you tune out..the less you will accomplish in your life. So if thats all you wnat to do, i dont get upset and i wont feel sorry for you or feel any kind of way, i'll just know that that is what you have decided for your life, and i have enough to worry about myself then to police your habits. But i wont argue what is right or wrong, i'll just decide what is right or wrong for me in the present moment based on what i need and wnat to do with my life.
Hostile;1461659 said:Nyquil.
Hostile;1461645 said:That is it exactly. It doesn't mean I don't love them. I've just never had a pleasant experience around people in that condition. I've been thrown up on, hit, threatened, insulted, judged, and even beaten.
Then when the effects have worn off told "that wasn't me, it was the _______ talking."
Now someone will assure me that when drunk or high they are very pleasant and relaxed and it would never happen if I hung aroud them while they indulge.
I feel it robs people of too much to appreciate how much they feel they can handle it. It's their life, let them live it. I even think the legal drinking age should be 18 not 21. It makes no sense to me that someone can marry, vote, have kids, and go to war, but can't have a drink. So I am hardly a prude.
Just don't assure me how harmless it is or how cool you are because you can "handle it." I won't be the least bit assured or impressed. This isn't my first rodeo.
CATCH17;1461104 said:Its like this. Everyone at some point has smoked the reefer.
Its cool... Its not really a big deal, and if you want to compare it to Alcohol the Alcohol is physically much worse for you.
Just about all these guys at some point have tried it and 3 guys who had a lot at stake had the courage to admit to it should not be punished. That shows character in my opinion that they wouldnt lie.
Im not a pot head or anything but thats just how I feel about it.
Hostile;1461659 said:Nyquil.
WoodysGirl;1460690 said:Said another: "Marijuana is as American as baseball and apple pie. It's like masturbation; some admit it and the rest are liars."
that's greatKilyin;1461855 said:
5Stars;1461535 said:Finally the devil came to the third man's room and opened the door. Sitting in the middle of all the bud, in the exact same position the devil had left him in was the man. He looked up at the devil and with a single tear rolling down his cheek he asked ; "hey man, got a light?"
GoinForSix;1461817 said:Cigarettes/Alcohol (even with moderation) = much more harmful than pot. Its only taboo because it's been condiitoned into everyone's minds that its a terrible drug. Its a plant with endless medicinal possibilities that can't be regulated by the government because of its ease to cultivate and make individual profit from. Not to mention the DEA makes the majority of its profits from marijuana busts.
I know this thread has lost its direction but marijuana doesn't have the Quincy Carter effect on all people. Lets just not treat it as if its any worse than cigs/alcohol just because the government says so. [/liberal rant]
When I take Nyquil the only driving I do is a Ferrari Enzo or a Lamboughini Diablo with Monica Barladeanu or Halle Berry in the passenger seat wearing very little. Before you say "in your dreams," let me just say, "exactly." In my dreams.Bob Sacamano;1461828 said:Nyquil will show up as Alcohol in a breathalizer
theogt;1462454 said: