Philly Enquirer: What if Wentz had Prescott's supporting cast?

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Actually, stats aren't an issue of English but of mathematics.

And it's quite reasonable and logical to ask for a source to interpret stats. That is what statistical analysis is all about. :)

All you had to say is you don't have the information I seek. That would have sufficed. :)

So you wanted a lie, then. Weird, but okay. And English is used to express stats. Not sure if you noticed, but math includes numbers and letters. I stated what my source was. 6-1. Deal with it, Romo cultist.
 

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Wentz's arm talent pops off the screen, but IMO he seems limited by the scheme at the moment. The first few games seemed like a nice way to ease him into the pro game; now it seems like they're just trying to groom him to be Alex Smith. Strange offense IMO.
 

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This argument smacks of the talk that anyone can run behind Emmitt Smiths oline, or anyone can get the yards Zeke is getting. Best way I see this, Tom Brady, neither of these two can hold his jock strap I know; but how many times has he had ELITE anything? Even when he took over he has had Journeynan players while winning his superbowls. Occasionally they'd get him a new fading star he'd resurrect but for the most part we don't even know who his backs, receivers, olineman, or, well we know his tight ends. His defenses have been stellar and his offensive team pedestrian except for him leading them. Funny how great leaders make good players better so maybe this kid needs to step up his leadership so his players step up their own game.

In a side note, we've all had issues with our team at one time or another and even in winning some seem to still have a love hate relationship with this squad. I don't know why or what it is but maybe you're no longer fans of the team and just haven't realized it yet.
 

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So you wanted a lie, then. Weird, but okay.
I don't even know what this means. But, using your words, okay.

And English is used to express stats.

No, English is used to interpret stats. Numbers are used to express stats.

Not sure if you noticed, but math includes numbers and letters.

But "A" as a variable is not English. It's a mathematical concept representing a number. :D

I stated what my source was. 6-1. Deal with it, Romo cultist.

Ah, the name calling. I wondered when that frustration tactic would rear its head.
Oh, and I'm GLAD we're 6-1. But that's not the issue. I guess you're having confusion over that too like you are about the difference between mathematics and English. :laugh:
 

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Wentz plays on an extremely talented team with a phenomenal defense.

I ask, what if Dak had one of the best defenses in football?
After seeing his WR's drop six balls that literally hit them in the hands, I am perplexed at your claim of him having an extremely talented team, at least on offense.
 

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The game moves way too fast for Wentz and at this point Dak is ahead of him in terms of progress. His mechanics are troubling and they didn't throw deep because he doesn't see it downfield.




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They don't throw deep because their crap receivers can't get open long. I've seen it all year up here.
 

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This argument smacks of the talk that anyone can run behind Emmitt Smiths oline, or anyone can get the yards Zeke is getting. Best way I see this, Tom Brady, neither of these two can hold his jock strap I know; but how many times has he had ELITE anything? Even when he took over he has had Journeynan players while winning his superbowls. Occasionally they'd get him a new fading star he'd resurrect but for the most part we don't even know who his backs, receivers, olineman, or, well we know his tight ends. His defenses have been stellar and his offensive team pedestrian except for him leading them. Funny how great leaders make good players better so maybe this kid needs to step up his leadership so his players step up their own game.

In a side note, we've all had issues with our team at one time or another and even in winning some seem to still have a love hate relationship with this squad. I don't know why or what it is but maybe you're no longer fans of the team and just haven't realized it yet.
I dont really think he beeds to step up anything. Hes taking a team that should be at the bottom of the division and competing with the best teams in the league. Hes as advertised and everyone scoffing that he had no business being a qb near the top of the draft has been proven wrong.
 

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He still wouldn't have Prescott's intangibles. Those are just as responsible for 6-1 as his supporting cast.
 

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from the Philly Enquirer:

"Prescott is certainly a nice find for the Cowboys as a fourth-round pick. But having such a strong supporting cast really helps him. One could only imagine if Wentz was in the same position. It’s not hard to imagine he’d be having even more success than Dak has had."

Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2...prescott-ezekiel-elliott/#iHbufDUGTvlTYjQ3.99

Typical Philthy...:rolleyes:
Play the hand dealt you..

We had to do it last year and this year with injuries.

The Philadelphia media is allowed to pimp for their team.

If they think the OL the difference then..

Let them think back to Chip Kelly building their team with wholesale trades that ruined the team because Kelly thought Running backs and WRs were dead weight.

Ridiculous.
 

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What if Dak was drafted in NE and he started those first 4 games? Brady would of been benched.
 

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I dont really think he beeds to step up anything. Hes taking a team that should be at the bottom of the division and competing with the best teams in the league. Hes as advertised and everyone scoffing that he had no business being a qb near the top of the draft has been proven wrong.
True or not I'm not commenting on his ability, im commenting on the fact that it is believed that witha better cast of players he'd be performing better than Dak. My point being Brady has played with players like he has on Filthy and has 4 rings with those players going all the way back to when he took over. Wentz looks good to me but the thought that he needs better players when they are at least good now considering their record is false, he is good and will get better but the excuse everyone is giving him being the number 2 draft choice he should be able to help his teammates rise instead of him having to wait for them to get better players.
 

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True or not I'm not commenting on his ability, im commenting on the fact that it is believed that witha better cast of players he'd be performing better than Dak. My point being Brady has played with players like he has on Filthy and has 4 rings with those players going all the way back to when he took over. Wentz looks good to me but the thought that he needs better players when they are at least good now considering their record is false, he is good and will get better but the excuse everyone is giving him being the number 2 draft choice he should be able to help his teammates rise instead of him having to wait for them to get better players.
Brady is arguably the GOAT so im not sure why we are using him as the standard. No one is giving Wentz an excuse, people here are complaining that he is being called good because they think national media complimenting him has something to do with prescott...and it doesnt.
 

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I liked that stat they showed late during the broadcast yesterday. It showed a comparison between Wentz and Dak in relation to their throws: 0-10 yards, 11-20, 20+ (I believe that's the way it was divided up).

28 of 32 of Wentz's throws at the time were for 10 yards OR LESS. That's not a one game anomaly either; he's been Captain Screen Pass this whole season.

I don't blame that entirely on Wentz, because his head coach turned Alex Smith into the same type of quick, short throwing scheme QB. That said, Dak is busy making big boy throws while Wentz is dinking and dunking.
 

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Brady is arguably the GOAT so im not sure why we are using him as the standard. No one is giving Wentz an excuse, people here are complaining that he is being called good because they think national media complimenting him has something to do with prescott...and it doesnt.
Not national media Philly media and they are saying he would be better with Prescott's squad; Brady being arguably the GOAT has nothing to do with when he started. He started with and has had teams just like Wentz from day 1 as a 7th round pick, Wentz being a number 2 with players good enough to get him a 5-2 or 4-2 record are more than sufficient for him to have beat The Cowboys yesterday. I as I said am merely pointing out that with his pick status comparing him to Dak is as bad as comparing him to Brady with the same circumstances. Either he is good enough or he isn't, who he has around him shouldn't make the difference because if he'd be better with Day's players maybe he isn't all they thought of him being as Brady won with the very type of players he has around him annually.
 

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Their defense allowed more points than our defense.

Just saying. :)

Wentz has a defense/special teams where he literally doesn't have to score a single point to win the game against some of the better teams in the league such as the Steelers or Vikings
 

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Wentz's arm talent pops off the screen, but IMO he seems limited by the scheme at the moment. The first few games seemed like a nice way to ease him into the pro game; now it seems like they're just trying to groom him to be Alex Smith. Strange offense IMO.

It appears that they reigned him in after the Lions game losing interception and after the multiple interceptions in the Vikings game.

He was struggling with down the field accuracy and decision making, so to mitigate these issues it is now the dink and dunk offense with a few intermediate attempts and an occasional deep pass.
 

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Gee, now let me see...

...if Philly would have drafted like the Cowboys have since 2010, where at least two solid starters with an occasional Pro Bowler have come from each draft, MAYBE Philadelphia and its delusional media would not have to use the word "IMAGINE."

I also think a huge difference in Prescott's favor is that he played in the SEC West. He had to go up against the Alabama's and LSUs and Ole Miss' of the world. Prescott had inferior talent to those schools and others, yet he still managed to get the Mississippi State Bulldogs to #1 in the nation for a short period of time and him in the Heisman race.

It would not surprise me if Dak was an Eagle, and Wentz was a Cowboy, that the Eagles just might be leading the division. Dallas last season had no luck with Checkdown Charlies like Weeden and Cassel. What makes anyone think Wentz would be any different?
 

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i would hate it if they Get Dalvin Cook or Fournette next year,it will take the pressure of Wentz.

Be prepared for that exact scenario with this upcoming draft containing deep talent at RB not seen in about a decade one or two of our NFC east members will be upgrading. Running games will be popular in 2017.
 
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