Philly Enquirer: What if Wentz had Prescott's supporting cast?

[Risen Star]

Yeah, four wins as a rookie with no one considered elite at the skill positions is not doing anything?


I'm sorry, is anyone on defense catching balls? Does the defense score all of Philly's points?


You mean the balls he throws are behind the line of scrimmage?


So? When did the criterion for a good quarterback become you had to complete passes 20 yards down the field?
And you'll notice a similar criticism was applied to Dak too, i.e., that he's not accurate with the deep ball, and he takes the short throws. But so what? Those are part of the game also.
That's a silly argument.


So does Tony Romo. It's interesting to see that you're validating everything that has been said about Romo in your criticism of Wentz.


Do you understand how juvenile you sound?


Like who? Darren Sproules? You think Sproules is a playmaker on the order of Zeke Elliott?
You're just making stuff up as you go.


Wentz has receivers dropping passes too. So what, as you say.



This shows how myopic you are.
First, the Eagles started to feature Sproules as a running back THIS game. So without him in this position, the Eagles - led by Wentz - won four games. Meanwhile, Zeke has been starting ALL of the games the Cowboys have played.
Second, you just invalidated your own argument. So if Wentz was winning with Sproules carrying the load, doesn't that make his success squarely on Sproules' shoulders? And if Zeke outrushed Sproules in the fourth quarter, doesn't that mean Dak's success is on Zeke's shoulders?
Oh, and by the way, the Eagles were winning prior to the fourth quarter.

Wentz is good. You may not like it, but he is. And most GMs and coaches outside of the Cowboys coaches and GM would STILL take Wentz over Dak.

That's not a knock on Dak - except to overly sensitive Cowboys fans. I'm glad we have him. But, as I said, I don't have to alter reality because a player on a division rival is good. Maturity has a way of establishing proper perspective.

Destroyed him.

 

[jnday]

Wentz would do better in Dallas. I don't see why anyone would question
that other than letting random form their opinions. I think Wentz will have s better career and I think he will be one of the top QBs in the league in a few years.

 

[BlueStar22]

Wentz completed over 30 passes last night. You'd think he had a huge day. Nah, he's checkdown at this point.

 

[Proof]

Destroyed him.

Well the obnoxious misspelling of sproles underminded the whole post. I'm gonna have to call this a draw.

 

[crashintonickdm]

Wentz had 32 completions.

207 yards hahahahaha. Meanwhile for weeks they were saying dak is a dink and dunker. I hate eagle fans/media

They always act like they're a great team. Meager franchise

 

[Lutonio]

This is all speculation. For all we know, Wentz wouldn't have the nuts to handle Dez.

Both are doing great. What a bunch of loser talk. I sure didn't hear any of this leading up to the game. Oh no. It was all about how they're going to win.

Maybe the other side needs to give Dak more credit overall for his start.

 

[DakotaReign]

We don't see the same things.

The lack of touch is a legitimate thing. Ability to read downfield? Hard to tell without All-22, and know what the designed progression is supposed to be on each play.

 

[Gabe]

What if Wentz had Dak's swagger, leadership, and poise? Dak 1 Wentz 0, all that really matters at this point.

Dak's ceiling is MUCH higher than Wentz's.

 

[MRV52]

LOL

So this mythical arm of Carson Wentz will finally show up on game day once he has good receivers?

This is exactly the type of funny stuff I was referring to in earlier posts- "Throwing mechanics and better in the pocket". How he "would be whipping the ball down the field" if only this or that happened.

Carson Wentz- the only QB in the NFL receiving heaps of praise for everything he could, would, or should do. LOL

I'll just take the guy that actually does make those throws and does lead game winning drives (which so far is Dak by a mile). That's just me though. To each their own.

Maybe you should watch some of his earlier games where he pushed the ball down the field. The guy is very accurate where he places the ball.

 

[tyke1doe]

Actually Wentz defense has been catching balls for TDs or maybe you have missed his defense and special teams out scoring him last week.

I guess you missed the word "all."

Really Dak doesn't pay the same as Wentz. Dak is a 10-20 yard mid range thrower but hit some bombs against eagles last night....maybe you missed all those deep throws from Dak.

I like how you omit words and totally twist what is being said to make your point. That takes some kind of skill.

Wentz is 4-3 with defense winning 2-3 of those games. Wentz hasn't done anything so no he doesn't get any credit and he hasn't outplayed Dak.

And Dak has benefited from Zeke putting up 100 plus yards and an offensive line that is the best in the NFL, so, no, he doesn't get any credit and hasn't outplayed Wentz.

See how easy it is to argue the same for Wentz?

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

I guess you missed the word "all."



I like how you omit words and totally twist what is being said to make your point. That takes some kind of skill.



And Dak has benefited from Zeke putting up 100 plus yards and an offensive line that is the best in the NFL, so, no, he doesn't get any credit and hasn't outplayed Wentz.

See how easy it is to argue the same for Wentz?

Adjusted QB stats have Prescott at #3 after week 7 and Wentz at 20, so it really hasn't been close.

 

[tyke1doe]

Maybe you should watch some of his earlier games where he pushed the ball down the field. The guy is very accurate where he places the ball.

Some fans live in a Cowboys-only world. In this world, noone beats us; we beat ourselves. Our players are the only ones who are impressive and no other rookie qb couldn't possibly do as well or better than our rookie qb.

 

[tyke1doe]

Adjusted QB stats have Prescott at #3 after week 7 and Wentz at 20, so it really hasn't been close.

And Dak has the better running back, the better tight end, the better receiver and the better offensive line. You don't think that has anything to do with the rankings?

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

And Dak has the better running back, the better tight end, the better receiver and the better offensive line. You don't think that has anything to do with the rankings?

Not 17 spots worth, no. Great QBs make players around them better, even if they're spares. See guys like Tom Brady.

 

[tyke1doe]

Well the obnoxious misspelling of sproles underminded the whole post. I'm gonna have to call this a draw.

 

[Sasquatch]

The "What If" game is an exercise in futility.

It's the only thing they've got at this point.

 

[tyke1doe]

Not 17 spots worth, no. Great QBs make players around them better, even if they're spares. See guys like Tom Brady.

Really? So what source do you offer that says if you're 17 spots above another qb that means you're doing better without the aid of better talent?

I would be interested in reading it. Thanks.

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

Really? So what source do you offer that says if you're 17 spots above another qb that means you're doing better without the aid of better talent?

I would be interested in reading it. Thanks.

What source? I don't know, subtraction? Another stat where Dallas and Prescott blow away Wentz is drive success rate, where Dallas and Dak are #1 and Philly is #18. The QB has a ton to do with that. Wentz and Prescott aren't even in the same conversation with respect to how they've played so far this season.

 

[jnday]

What if Wentz had Dak's swagger, leadership, and poise? Dak 1 Wentz 0, all that really matters at this point.

Dak's ceiling is MUCH higher than Wentz's.

Wentz is bigger, with a bigger arm and he is extremely smart. He is just starting to get used to the level of competition which is a much bigger jump for him than it is for Dak, who played college in the best conference in college football. Wentz has a much higher ceiling based on just his physical characteristics alone.

 

[MRV52]

Some fans live in a Cowboys-only world. In this world, noone beats us; we beat ourselves. Our players are the only ones who are impressive and no other rookie qb couldn't possibly do as well or better than our rookie qb.

I started the year thinking in, what did Philly see in Wentz to mortgage the farm. He has impressed me at times, the kid will be real good with more experience. Too bad he is at philly because he is a really a nice guy.