Please Washington play your starters vs US. We need the 11th pick in the draft!

[CCBoy]

Dallas will be 3rd or 4th in the NFCE for the next 4-5 years.

 

[dupree89]

I will say this. No way would I ever root for a Washington win. Never. Even if they werent playing Dallas. In my eyes, Washington is still the Cowboys biggest and greatest rival. Not Philly. Not NYG. Not SF or anyone else. Washington. And I hope we destroy them this week. Yes, my hate is strong for them. It has been since 1974.

Now, with that said, if Sunday Washington is leading 31-13 in Q4 and as Jerry looks into the stands he just sees burgundy and gold and many other empty seats, I hope it eats at him and it ruins his night and the coming days. Perhaps, at some point during a quiet moment, he'll think to himself....maybe we DO need big changes.

 

[Captain43Crash]

IT ALL OUT OF OUR HANDS

but here we are.

truly you have one thing to control, YOU>..how you decide to be fan or not.. the rest is all opinion and debate , a heavy dose of rhetoric and Hyperbole mixed with Ego and the strong instinct to always be right and question everything being performed by pros from the common folk, sometimes the egocentric thick posts will create these flame wars.

I find it insane on how many people in here are wasting their talents I mean they have so many opinions on how they can coach better call plays better run plays better and build teams better than the actual professionals to do it for a living... I mean you are missing your calling I mean 75% of the people in here really believe that they can do a better job than the Jones family and I find that entertaining and not in the good way it makes me laugh out loud I get it we all like to have our say but in the end you don't know what it's like to run a professional sports team and to judge the front office by how maybe the top three to five teams do it versus the ones that are consistently below them the bottom 20 or more literally yeah Cowboys build these regular season teams that are typically very good top six and win percentage the last decade I'm pretty sure that's hard to do as well because I see teams who have consistently made all these changes that you all say needs to be done regular G miss changing owners changing GM changing cities constantly changing the quarterback and they're still bad I mean the Cleveland Browns are a epitome I'm back and people wanna talk about the Cowboys the Cowboys at least win their division they at least are winning in the regular season the Cleveland Browns haven't even won a division since 1989 and yet everyone in here believes they have a better answer than the Jones family know it's true their top five or six organizations in this 32 league that have done it better that seem to have the answer but really it seems like one team a decade or more like say the Cowboys the patriots the chiefs and maybe some other teams are building towards that but it's usually being dominated by a single team.

Of course as a fan base we want it done better we wanna get to an NFC championship game and win another Super Bowl but it is that difficult it took the chiefs 56 years to get back to where they are right now finally winning Super Bowls again it takes that kind of drought and we're in one it's not even halfway there to what the chiefs took it's the truth we may look better with a different GM or a traditional system in the front office but I'm not buying that it would make us instant champions again because I look around the league and there are teams that have never won a Super Bowl some of them that have never been to a Super Bowl or some of them that only won one in higher existence so how is that some kind of blueprint?​

I Agree with a lot of what your saying.

We should not take being a fan to serious. We have no control. I go months without posting. I should go back to not posting very much, but for some reason I am really excited about getting the highest pick possible. I go from fan to fanatic at times.

I do think you are wrong about this organization being a top 5-6 organization. We have not been to an NFC Championship in almost 30 years. That is pathetic. Jerry is happy being relevant and winning divisions. He has not, “went all in to win” since he went after, and got, Deon Sanders.

 

[Captain43Crash]

Everyone does their fan thing differently. I don’t see a problem with any of it.

Want to root for a loss to maybe move from 13 to 11 in round one? Fine by me. That’s actually worth a third round pick.

Want to win because you think it sets a tone for next year? Sure

Want to win because it’s against Washington? Great.

I’m confused and never have been in this spot. Not gonna root against my team but if I have to listen or watch Jerry try to tell people about all the positives I may purposely break things that I value.

Great attitude, but deep down don’t you want a chance at the RB from Utah at pick #11?

 

[Captain43Crash]

You know there's at least a dozen teams in this league that have been far worse than the Cowboys over the last couple of decades but let's just stay in the last 10 years or so how is it that the Browns have had some of the highest first round draft picks multiple first round draft picks over a decade and still can't find a way to win a division since 1989 you're telling me that the draft is the key to make sure you get the best players in the draft how is it some teams who consistently pick in the top five are not rebuilding their teams with good draft picks typically?

I've watched teams try and then what happens when they can't find a quarterback they ended up going and using drop picks and trading for one overpaying for them and it still don't work out it doesn't seem that there's a blueprint high drop picks and consistently picking in the top five of the draft let alone the top 10 does not give you any kind of advantage because I haven't seen it I mean ask The Jets and the Broncos how many decades is taking that they didn't have to buy a quarterback or can't find a receiver I mean that's New England right I mean how often did they pick in the top ten recently they can't find a quarterback but hell they've been looking for a receiver for a decade or more and we found one at 17 in the first round at 17 how is it they didn't get that guy how is lamb not a New England Patriot I don't know...

I get what you're saying logic says if you have a higher draft picks in every round you should have an advantage but history says it's not true people tend to make mistakes and I always use this analogy if you have too many choices too many really good players or at least allegedly on paper good players it's like menu no one likes one of those five page menus at a really nice restaurant where everything looks good everything sounds good and you can't make a decision and when you do make a decision even when you're eating it you're not sure if it's the right decision because you haven't even used the rest of the menu yet you the sample the entire menu eventually to know whether you made a good choice or not...​

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Oh in a lot of ways that's what the draft is it's a big menu and sometimes when you have too many choices when you have too many holes to fill you can end up reaching you can end up taking players and you end up taking the wrong players when you have less choices and it's quite obvious who your top choice is when it's time for you to pick it's less convoluted to a point where you might make a better pick...

We all have a different way of looking at it and I'm not disagreeing that having a higher draft pick is supposed to be an advantage they're better players by the time you pick but I don't I'm saying it doesn't typically workout there is no blueprint there's no magic pill sometimes you gotta get lucky that is why really good players slip all over the draft that is why guys like Tom Brady weren't even considered Brock Purdy Russell Wilson these dudes were not reached for and they turned out to be very good players in the NFL the same with undrafted players same with low draft picks like Terrell Davis or pachenko I mean even Prescott taking in the fourth round is that still gonna be a steal whether you like him or not he should have been a first rounder but he wasn't how about Deron bland is a perfect example around here or how does a player like Turpin or Aubrey or even we haven't seen enough of Butler but these guys weren't even considered NFL players but they really were that's why the draft is imperfect just like the people picking....

Yeah I know my stuff's too long you won't read it but you know what it's a lot of good information up there we all hope the Cowboys are successful in the draft and free agency and we have a better year next year but hoping for a loss just to improve our odds I mean wanting the other team to lay down so we won't beat them it's just kind of weird to me it's not something we have control of I actually wanna see us win the game but when we lose it doesn't hurt this time as much as it would because we're out of it and yes it does improve the draft. But don't you find it odd that Micah Parsons we had the 10th pick in the draft we saw the opportunity move down to picks got micah parsons and we got osa. we saw the opportunity to move down to picks got Micah Parsons and we got OSA they passed up on number 10 to get the number 12 and still got both their guys...

Basically, I believe this team has a lot of talent( we recently beat Washington and Tampa Bay and played exceptional vs Philly throughout the 1st quarter except for 1 stupid throw by Rush). Everyone already knows what we need to be true contenders. We need better play at QB and DT next year. Going after a QB and DT’s takes draft capital.

For the future success of our team I am rooting for a competitive loss to Washington, the Whiners to win 1 of their last 2 games and the Colts to beat Jacksonville. This equals the # 11 pick which gives us much more draft capital than the 15th,16th or 17th pick!

 

[Captain43Crash]

I will say this. No way would I ever root for a Washington win. Never. Even if they werent playing Dallas. In my eyes, Washington is still the Cowboys biggest and greatest rival. Not Philly. Not NYG. Not SF or anyone else. Washington. And I hope we destroy them this week. Yes, my hate is strong for them. It has been since 1974.

Now, with that said, if Sunday Washington is leading 31-13 in Q4 and as Jerry looks into the stands he just sees burgundy and gold and many other empty seats, I hope it eats at him and it ruins his night and the coming days. Perhaps, at some point during a quiet moment, he'll think to himself....maybe we DO need big changes.

To me our biggest rivals are the teams who have won more Superbowls.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Only that few in 35 years?

Lol

 

[blueblood70]

I Agree with a lot of what your saying.

We should not take being a fan to serious. We have no control. I go months without posting. I should go back to not posting very much, but for some reason I am really excited about getting the highest pick possible. I go from fan to fanatic at times.

I do think you are wrong about this organization being a top 5-6 organization. We have not been to an NFC Championship in almost 30 years. That is pathetic. Jerry is happy being relevant and winning divisions. He has not, “went all in to win” since he went after, and got, Deon Sanders.

Again,

why does this have to be like mansplain to people,

it still doesn't make you not a top six just because you haven't gone further in the playoffs, because the ones that are below you also are not making Super Bowl runs, you don't understand how bad some of this league is go look at the 20 teams did you not make the playoffs, and then go look at 15 or 16 of those and show me where their success is coming??​

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they can't even find a quarterback, they can't even win a division, they can't make the playoffs 5 out of the last eight years, because with Prescott was a healthy team we're making the playoffs and winning their division ,more than most teams,​

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that's why they call it parity , when you use parity, we are top six in the regular season and win percentage, when you win in the regular season you do what you qualify for the playoffs, people think that that's not a big deal around here anymore ,but when you look at the rest of the league it is yes there are 5 or 6 organizations, that are at times better than the Cowboys ,there are three of them that seem to share the same philosophy of just don't care get reckless with the salary cap..... This all in nonsense also created by the fan base just like tanking, all these things are created by fans but when you look at the reality in the landscape of the rest of the NFL the Dallas Cowboys over the last decade are one of the top 6, because they regularly had got there, this year no, but overall show me all the losing seasons?? Prescott's never had one, now go to the rest of the league and count up all their losing seasons, or multiple losing seasons ,and they've had the advantage that you're talking about regular GMs changes of coaching Staffs quarterbacks multiple first round picks... I don't understand how our fan base doesn't see it I mean literally the rest of the league struggles just to win it all just to build a team that can do what the Cowboys just did over the last five years I know it's not a big deal for our fans 'cause they want the NFC championship they expect the Super bowl but that ship is sailed a long time ago we're not that team right now... But there are teams that are so much further behind I mean explain to me how the Browns can change cities be recreated from the ground up have new ownership a bunch of new GMs and do you not remember like for about 5 years in a row they had like multiple first round picks they had to pick up whoever they wanted in the draft they have plenty of money for free agency and where do they end up doing been won a division since 1989..... I know that's one example but there's a whole bunch of teams probably 16 of them that's what I'm saying but the Cowboys are competing typically in the top 12 of the NFL that is why we still have primetime games that's why we're still relative that's why everybody keeps talking about us if we were literally the losers of the NFL like The Jets and the Jaguars and the Browns and all those teams that wish they were where we were because they're striving just to get where we are you have to have a starting point...​

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Isn't that your point I mean you're saying that if we're have a high draft pick the higher we pick in the draft it's somehow it's gonna launch us in this somewhere we've never been and yeah all these teams have that they've been bad for years they're constantly picking in the top five hell the giants can't even beat us i don't know once in the last 10 years how many top five picks have they had? Yeah over that time frame how many great opportunities have they had and they squandered it and everyone around here hates Jerry for signing some of our players the big contracts they signed Daniel Jones they couldn't even find Daniel Jones a wide receiver how can you not with all these high draft picks that's what your point is we started this whole thing about the draft picks it is not helping these teams get better quicker... When's the last time the bears had a good quarterback I don't remember ever them having a actual Hall of Fame Pro Bowl style quarterback and they keep trying they've had high draft picks for how many decades they can't find a quarterback and somehow we stumble into two and people around here think that that's a bad thing they think Prescott and Roma are just like worthless...

And many of these teams have done this for decades this whole process they've been going through is far longer drought than the Cowboys are going through because we're waiting on our 6th championship we're waiting on Jerry's 4th it's not like we're sitting around waiting on our first like we've never been to a Super Bowl or never competed for a championship now we've done all those things multiple times and like I said the Kansas City Chiefs took 56 years to get back to this dynasty they recreated 56 years between Super Bowl wins I mean I get it there's some really bad stats out there for Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys since the year 2000 I I get it...​

I'm not making excuses and I'm not settling for that but there's nothing I could do about it I'll always be a fan and I use this place or social media and talk about the Cowboys as a distraction it's like any other hobby or things that people do in their lives to distract themselves.....​

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Again I'm just as frustrated and irritated and getting complacent because we have taken so long to even get back to an NFC championship game I get the disappointment I really do and if you skip down to the bottom and skip all that you know I'm not agreeing with Jerry Jones and everything that the front office has done but I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan I can't change any of it and I will never not be a Dallas Cowboys fan...​

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When they say you're a fan for life that's me I'm a die hard Cowboys fan but I'm not a Homer but I will support the team with fierce loyalty and somehow we just have to accept who the owner and the coach and the quarterback are because that is nothing we can control but each season for me is a new season it's a one off it's a year to year thing I'm not gonna keep looking back and keep talking about droughts it happens I mean it right the the the Detroit Lions are now what the new flavor of the month right now exactly what have they done in their entire existence so the last two years they're finally doing something so do we get to use their drought as some kind of stupid narrative that they have gone 100 years without a Super Bowl I mean how long is the NFL been the NFL in the Super bowl years beneficial that's how long not 28 years their entire existence so they have two good years in a row and they're fine like there's something we should put a blueprint on because the alliance have finally figured out how to get to an NFC championship game and we're supposed to like drop everything and prop them up on some kind of parade for being good for two years no no we have 5 titles to sit and wait on they have none...​

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I understand where you're coming from the higher the pick the better chances that the better players but those are always up in there as well will those players live up to their hype well they live up to their combine and what they did in college because you know what I found out most of them do not a lot of them do not...​

 

[diamonddelts]

If we loss to Washington, the Whiners win one of their last 2 games( home vs Detroit, away vs Arizona) and Indianapolis beats Jacksonville at home we will have the 11th pick in the draft!!!!!

If we win vs Washington we could pick as high as the 17th pick.

Please, please Washington play your starters this Sunday vs US. Washington has no chance of beating us with mostly backups. The 11th pick in every round is statistically much better than the 15th-17th pick in every round.

So the worst GM in the NFL can waste it.

 

[blueblood70]

I do believe Washington will come out much like the lions did last night, they do not want to lose back-to-back games against the Cowboys and the way the lions played San Francisco...

I fully expect Washington to try to embarrass us Sunday they're playing for pride and I'm sure they have some kind of seating and other things to worry about they're not going to lay down they may only play that way the first half but this Cowboys team is getting more hurt every week and I don't think we're going to win this game.

DQ does not want to lose to our backup team TWICE LOL that would not be a good feeling going into the playoffs

 

[AyeAtey]

No need too worry, Zeke just got cut.

 

[raw2war]

Players are gonna play to win. Fans on the other hand have the luxury to want their team to lose for better draft position.

I hope for a close and high scoring…..loss.

 

[Captain43Crash]

So the worst GM in the NFL can waste it.

The worst GM especially needs the higher pick!!!

 

[Captain43Crash]

Players are gonna play to win. Fans on the other hand have the luxury to want their team to lose for better draft position.

I hope for a close and high scoring…..loss.

Exactly! You get it!

 

[Captain43Crash]

I do believe Washington will come out much like the lions did last night, they do not want to lose back-to-back games against the Cowboys and the way the lions played San Francisco...

I fully expect Washington to try to embarrass us Sunday they're playing for pride and I'm sure they have some kind of seating and other things to worry about they're not going to lay down they may only play that way the first half but this Cowboys team is getting more hurt every week and I don't think we're going to win this game.

DQ does not want to lose to our backup team TWICE LOL that would not be a good feeling going into the playoffs

The Skins need this game. They will play to win! If they loss there is a very good chance they go from the 6th seed to the 7th seed with no chance of a home game.

 

[Captain43Crash]

Again,

why does this have to be like mansplain to people,

it still doesn't make you not a top six just because you haven't gone further in the playoffs, because the ones that are below you also are not making Super Bowl runs, you don't understand how bad some of this league is go look at the 20 teams did you not make the playoffs, and then go look at 15 or 16 of those and show me where their success is coming??​

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they can't even find a quarterback, they can't even win a division, they can't make the playoffs 5 out of the last eight years, because with Prescott was a healthy team we're making the playoffs and winning their division ,more than most teams,​

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that's why they call it parity , when you use parity, we are top six in the regular season and win percentage, when you win in the regular season you do what you qualify for the playoffs, people think that that's not a big deal around here anymore ,but when you look at the rest of the league it is yes there are 5 or 6 organizations, that are at times better than the Cowboys ,there are three of them that seem to share the same philosophy of just don't care get reckless with the salary cap..... This all in nonsense also created by the fan base just like tanking, all these things are created by fans but when you look at the reality in the landscape of the rest of the NFL the Dallas Cowboys over the last decade are one of the top 6, because they regularly had got there, this year no, but overall show me all the losing seasons?? Prescott's never had one, now go to the rest of the league and count up all their losing seasons, or multiple losing seasons ,and they've had the advantage that you're talking about regular GMs changes of coaching Staffs quarterbacks multiple first round picks... I don't understand how our fan base doesn't see it I mean literally the rest of the league struggles just to win it all just to build a team that can do what the Cowboys just did over the last five years I know it's not a big deal for our fans 'cause they want the NFC championship they expect the Super bowl but that ship is sailed a long time ago we're not that team right now... But there are teams that are so much further behind I mean explain to me how the Browns can change cities be recreated from the ground up have new ownership a bunch of new GMs and do you not remember like for about 5 years in a row they had like multiple first round picks they had to pick up whoever they wanted in the draft they have plenty of money for free agency and where do they end up doing been won a division since 1989..... I know that's one example but there's a whole bunch of teams probably 16 of them that's what I'm saying but the Cowboys are competing typically in the top 12 of the NFL that is why we still have primetime games that's why we're still relative that's why everybody keeps talking about us if we were literally the losers of the NFL like The Jets and the Jaguars and the Browns and all those teams that wish they were where we were because they're striving just to get where we are you have to have a starting point...​

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Isn't that your point I mean you're saying that if we're have a high draft pick the higher we pick in the draft it's somehow it's gonna launch us in this somewhere we've never been and yeah all these teams have that they've been bad for years they're constantly picking in the top five hell the giants can't even beat us i don't know once in the last 10 years how many top five picks have they had? Yeah over that time frame how many great opportunities have they had and they squandered it and everyone around here hates Jerry for signing some of our players the big contracts they signed Daniel Jones they couldn't even find Daniel Jones a wide receiver how can you not with all these high draft picks that's what your point is we started this whole thing about the draft picks it is not helping these teams get better quicker... When's the last time the bears had a good quarterback I don't remember ever them having a actual Hall of Fame Pro Bowl style quarterback and they keep trying they've had high draft picks for how many decades they can't find a quarterback and somehow we stumble into two and people around here think that that's a bad thing they think Prescott and Roma are just like worthless...

And many of these teams have done this for decades this whole process they've been going through is far longer drought than the Cowboys are going through because we're waiting on our 6th championship we're waiting on Jerry's 4th it's not like we're sitting around waiting on our first like we've never been to a Super Bowl or never competed for a championship now we've done all those things multiple times and like I said the Kansas City Chiefs took 56 years to get back to this dynasty they recreated 56 years between Super Bowl wins I mean I get it there's some really bad stats out there for Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys since the year 2000 I I get it...​

I'm not making excuses and I'm not settling for that but there's nothing I could do about it I'll always be a fan and I use this place or social media and talk about the Cowboys as a distraction it's like any other hobby or things that people do in their lives to distract themselves.....​

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Again I'm just as frustrated and irritated and getting complacent because we have taken so long to even get back to an NFC championship game I get the disappointment I really do and if you skip down to the bottom and skip all that you know I'm not agreeing with Jerry Jones and everything that the front office has done but I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan I can't change any of it and I will never not be a Dallas Cowboys fan...​

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When they say you're a fan for life that's me I'm a die hard Cowboys fan but I'm not a Homer but I will support the team with fierce loyalty and somehow we just have to accept who the owner and the coach and the quarterback are because that is nothing we can control but each season for me is a new season it's a one off it's a year to year thing I'm not gonna keep looking back and keep talking about droughts it happens I mean it right the the the Detroit Lions are now what the new flavor of the month right now exactly what have they done in their entire existence so the last two years they're finally doing something so do we get to use their drought as some kind of stupid narrative that they have gone 100 years without a Super Bowl I mean how long is the NFL been the NFL in the Super bowl years beneficial that's how long not 28 years their entire existence so they have two good years in a row and they're fine like there's something we should put a blueprint on because the alliance have finally figured out how to get to an NFC championship game and we're supposed to like drop everything and prop them up on some kind of parade for being good for two years no no we have 5 titles to sit and wait on they have none...​

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I understand where you're coming from the higher the pick the better chances that the better players but those are always up in there as well will those players live up to their hype well they live up to their combine and what they did in college because you know what I found out most of them do not a lot of them do not...​

When it comes to making the Conference Championship over the last 25 years, we are one of the worst organizations.

 

[diamonddelts]

The worst GM especially needs the higher pick!!!

To choose another Taco or Mazi.

 

[blueblood70]

The Skins need this game. They will play to win! If they loss there is a very good chance they go from the 6th seed to the 7th seed with no chance of a home game.

Well good then. what do you have to worry about?

you seem like you're losing sleep over whether the Cowboys are going to try to win this game or not.....

you want them to tank and I'm telling you I'll never be a partner to that idea, I hope the Cowboys go out and just absolutely demolish the Commanders and yes I must still call them that ,and I hope they hurt Jayden Daniels and I hope, I don't care about sportsmanship, I hope they lift their leg on the Washington team and ruin their year , but I'm fully acceptable and on board with the fact that they lose we get a better draft slot,​

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see how that works, I hate the Commanders, I do not want them to win this game, and no universe will I ever approve of them losing to any NFC East rival or the Pittsburgh Steelers or the Green Bay Packers or the 49ers, those are the teams I will absolutely pull for the Cowboys to win no matter what and I hope they take cheap shots I hope they get dirty and I hope they send some of our worst guys on the bottom end of our roster in a bounty bowl and hurt some dudes, that's right that's, how I roll that's how savage I am as a fan I will not accept losing to our hated rivals....​

'No one ever is defeated until defeat has been accepted as a reality. ' - Napoleon Hill

We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope." - Martin Luther King, Jr.


You're never a loser until you quit trying....

 

[links18]

Just forfeit. You can do that right?

 

[Sandyf]

Only that few in 35 years?

We haven't picked that often from 11-17. I believe we have drafted only 8 times in that range over last 35 years.