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I'm a Cowboy fan who rooted for the 90 teams which had more than 1 thug on it. I think anyone who could root for the 90 teams and turn around and say they dont want pac man is kind of a hypocrite.JMO!!
 

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Little Jr;2008321 said:
I'm a Cowboy fan who rooted for the 90 teams which had more than 1 thug on it. I think anyone who could root for the 90 teams and turn around and say they dont want pac man is kind of a hypocrite.JMO!!

I think people use this excuse to make them feel good about having this idiot on our team just because we had success with guys who partied hard back in the 90's.

If you can avoid players like this then you avoid them.
 

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Little Jr;2008321 said:
I'm a Cowboy fan who rooted for the 90 teams which had more than 1 thug on it. I think anyone who could root for the 90 teams and turn around and say they dont want pac man is kind of a hypocrite.JMO!!
DallasEast = hypocrite.

Wouldn't be the first time I've been called that.

In this day and age of the NFL, it certainly won't be the last time I'll be called that, for that I am absolutely freaking sure of.
 

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what are you guys worried about? we are giving up nothing to get him, we are still drafting a corner....its a win win
 

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STSINAZ;2008337 said:
what are you guys worried about? we are giving up nothing to get him, we are still drafting a corner....its a win win
It's still boils down to what you contribute on the field.

If he becomes a Cowboy, keeps out of trouble and doesn't become a distraction, it's a win-win

If he becomes a Cowboy and gets suspended (or worse) and misses games, he doesn't end up contributing **** on the field. Combine that scenario with a critical injury to Newman or Henry when the defense needs cornerback help the most and it's a lose-lose.

Simple.
 

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Comparing Pacman to Deion in anything but physical abilities is ludicrous. Deoin had a reputation as a unifier in the locker room. Pacman has a reputation as a loner who is aloof and sullen.

The main reason many of us are opposed has nothing whatsoever to do with his physical abilities. I can't and won't deny them. It is the rest of the package, from character to attitude to baggage that is just plain unappetizing.

He's probably going to be a Cowboy. I'd say the odds are 90% that he will be and I will deal with it. Calvin Hill has done good things with Tank, Ray Sherman great things with TO and both of them had similar baggage. I think this is a much taller order.

I'd prefer another avenue, but don't assume any of us are unaware of his physical talent. Most of the people here are a long ways away from being stupid.
 

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CATCH17;2008275 said:
I dont have a problem with people who smoke chron but I do have a problem with million dollar payed athletes who franchises have put big risks on that do it.

I do...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW....PERIOD! Surely you aren't trying to justify breaking the law?
 

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Comparing Pacman to Deion in anything but physical abilities is ludicrous. Deoin had a reputation as a unifier in the locker room. Pacman has a reputation as a loner who is aloof and sullen.

The main reason many of us are opposed has nothing whatsoever to do with his physical abilities. I can't and won't deny them. It is the rest of the package, from character to attitude to baggage that is just plain unappetizing.

He's probably going to be a Cowboy. I'd say te odds are 90% that he will be and I will deal with it. Calvin Hill has done good things with Tank, Ray Sherman great things with TO and both of them had similar baggage. I think this is a much taller order.

I'd prefer another avenue, but don't assume any of us are unaware of his physical talent. Most of the people here are a long ways away from being stupid.
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Zach ~sniff~ would be SO proud of you! ;) :)
 

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DallasEast;2008342 said:
Combine that scenario with a critical injury to Newman or Henry when the defense needs cornerback help the most and it's a lose-lose.

Simple.


I still dont understand why people assume just because we bring in CB, RB or WR that means we cant draft one. Bringing in Pac does not stop us from drafting one.
 

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If you want to check out some good videos, go check out Anquan Boldin highlights at YouTube. The guy seems to play like Owens, and I wouldn't mind having two of them on the field.

I would like us to get Pacman, trade for Boldin, and than use our two #1 rounders on a CB and RB (Talib and F. Jones sounds alright with me).
 

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Little Jr;2008390 said:
I still dont understand why people assume just because we bring in CB, RB or WR that means we cant draft one. Bringing in Pac does not stop us from drafting one.
Where did I say that we are not drafting a cornerback? I'll just stop there and wait for an answer.
 

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I don't care. if we can get him, get him. i'll take the T.O. approach. We should at least get one good year out of him.
 

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BlueStar22;2008405 said:
I don't care. if we can get him, get him. i'll take the T.O. approach. We should at least get one good year out of him.
Should he play this season, Adam Jones will be 25 years old this September. If he signs with Dallas, I hope that he's got more than one good season left in him--especially since he's a former 6th overall draft pick. One good year would be a very poor return on any investment made for him.
 

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Hostile;2008367 said:
Comparing Pacman to Deion in anything but physical abilities is ludicrous. Deoin had a reputation as a unifier in the locker room. Pacman has a reputation as a loner who is aloof and sullen.

Just curious, but where'd you get this information? I haven't read anything like that. If anything, I find that people with his personality type generally try to be the class clown and draw a crowd to themselves. Maybe he's just not very good at that, but instead attracts the attention of the police?

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Kilyin;2008412 said:
Just curious, but where'd you get this information? I haven't read anything like that. If anything, I find that people with his personality type generally try to be the class clown and draw a crowd to themselves. Maybe he's just not very good at that, but instead attracts the attention of the police?

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It was in all the myriad of articles when he was in trouble.
 

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DallasEast;2008394 said:
Where did I say that we are not drafting a cornerback? I'll just stop there and wait for an answer.

DallasEast;2008394 said:
Combine that scenario with a critical injury to Newman or Henry when the defense needs cornerback help the most and it's a lose-lose.

Maybe I misunderstood this comment but it makes it sounds like if we get Pac and he gets suspended we have no one else to back up Henry and New if they get hurt.

Say we dont get pac man and draft a CB. Newman or Henry goes down. You have the one we drafted to back them up. Say we get Pac and draft a CB. Newman or Henry go down. Pac is suspended. We still have the one we drafted backing them up. If he isnt suspended he's backing them up.

My point is if we was to get him and he gets suspended and Henry and New go down, it will basically be just as if we never had him as long as we still draft one.
 

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Little Jr;2008321 said:
I'm a Cowboy fan who rooted for the 90 teams which had more than 1 thug on it. I think anyone who could root for the 90 teams and turn around and say they dont want pac man is kind of a hypocrite.JMO!!


Pacman smacks of Leon Lett a guy that is way talented but can not be depended on to make good decisions sorry I think dude will be suspended again
 

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Little Jr;2008439 said:
Maybe I misunderstood this comment but it makes it sounds like if we get Pac and he gets suspended we have no one else to back up Henry and New if they get hurt.

Say we dont get pac man and draft a CB. Newman or Henry goes down. You have the one we drafted to back them up. Say we get Pac and draft a CB. Newman or Henry go down. Pac is suspended. We still have the one we drafted backing them up. If he isnt suspended he's backing them up.

My point is if we was to get him and he gets suspended and Henry and New go down, it will basically be just as if we never had him as long as we still draft one.
No, you misunderstood.

Adam Jones is a known, proven, starting quality cornerback. No cornerback who will be drafted next month is proven yet.

If Jones were on the team and Newman or Henry were lost, Jones could step in without much (if any) loss in ability at cornerback. The same cannot be said of any r-o-o-k-i-e.

Finally, there is a fundamental difference between losing a starter or a backup due to injury and losing a starter or a backup due to a suspension. The two should never be confused by anyone debating the Adam Jones issue--pro or con.
 

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I can understand why Jerry would think about it, if Pacman could be had for a late round pick.

It's tough though.

Pacman not only has a bunch of baggage, chances are that he's still packing ....
 
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