Polamalu vs. Woodson

[CyberB0b]

I think Polamalu's coverage skills are being drastically underrated in this thread. He wasn't as good as Ed Reed, but he was probably one of the better cover safeties in the league in his prime.

 

[xwalker]

Comparing Aikman and Favre is a lot different than comparing Woodson and Polamalu. QB's are going to impact games more than safeties. Favre holds the all-time NFL record for TD's and int's I can name a lot of QB's I would pick over him. Aikman was better than Favre he out dueled him in 2 NFC title games and won more championships than Favre. Polamalu was clearly a better player than Woodson you won't find anyone outside Cowboys Nation that would pick Woodson over Polamalu. Polamalu was the Steelers best defensive player on some great defensive teams and was named defensive player of the year in 2011. Polamalu helped the Steelers win some big games due to some great splash plays.

Favre wasn't a better QB than Aikman he just had better numbers. Polamalu was clearly a better player than Darren Woodson and it's not even close. Even with all the Cowboy FANS out there not many would take Woodson over Polamalu had they played during the same era. Just imagine how great the Cowboys 90's defenses would have been having a Troy Polamalu flying around making plays all over the field. I can't stop shaking my head at this thread.

The same things that you're saying about the Safeties are the same things that the media/fans would say about Farve over Aikman. I'm sure many would laugh if I told them I would draft Aikman over Farve.

I would say the same thing about Emmitt over Barry Sanders. Sanders could do things that other RB couldn't do, but the best overall player to have on a team when your goal is to win Super Bowls, was Emmitt. Short yards, pass blocking and receiving didn't make as many Sports Center highlights but those are things that result in winning.

If Woodson played in recent years he would have covered Desean Jackson in the slot and would have done a good job doing it. Polamalu can't cover Desean Jackson in the slot.

 

[burmafrd]

Woodson played on a team that won 3 SB's in 4 years and was the greatest team of the 90's. There's 5 members of that team that have been added to the Cowboys ROH and 4 of them have been inducted into the HOF and a 5th will be going in this summer. Woody was a very good player for the Cowboys but he has yet to be enshrined by his own team and an owner who's very partial to the players that helped win him those 3 championships. Sorry FANS but Troy Polamalu was in a completely different league than Darren Woodson. Polamalu was a GREAT player and is a lock to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

coming from someone unable to tell the quality difference between QBs why should anyone take anything you say seriously?

Having watched both of them play I would take Woody. He could do it all and he also was tougher then Polomalu who kept getting hurt.

 

[KJJ]

The same things that you're saying about the Safeties are the same things that the media/fans would say about Farve over Aikman. I'm sure many would laugh if I told them I would draft Aikman over Farve.

Aikman won 3 SB's and beat Favre in 2 NFC title games no one would laugh about taking him ahead of Favre after looking at both their careers. It comes down to what's more important championships or stats. Favre was an exciting player but so was Michael Vick. I believe most would take Aikman ahead of Favre NFLN took a viewer poll to determine the best QB of the 90's and Aikman came out on top. Favre made a lot of exciting plays but he made a lot of bad plays that cost his teams games especially in the playoffs. He wasn't a steady QB he was either throwing TD's or throwing picks. The media/fans wouldn't say the same things about Polamalu vs Woodson that they would say about Aikman vs Favre.

Plenty of arguments can be made for Aikman being better than Favre but no one can make an argument that Darren Woodson was better than Polamalu. For every bad play Polamalu made he made 5-6 spectacular plays that helped the Steelers win games. To be the best player on a team known for defense says a lot for how great a player Polamalu was. When he was off the field injured the Steelers defense wasn't the same. Would you take Woodson over Polamalu?

 

[xwalker]

Aikman won 3 SB's and beat Favre in 2 NFC title games no one would laugh about taking him ahead of Favre after looking at both their careers. It comes down to what's more important championships or stats. Favre was an exciting player but so was Michael Vick. I believe most would take Aikman ahead of Favre NFLN took a viewer poll to determine the best QB of the 90's and Aikman came out on top. Favre made a lot of exciting plays but he made a lot of bad plays that cost his teams games especially in the playoffs. He wasn't a steady QB he was either throwing TD's or throwing picks. The media/fans wouldn't say the same things about Polamalu vs Woodson that they would say about Aikman vs Favre.

Plenty of arguments can be made for Aikman being better than Favre but no one can make an argument that Darren Woodson was better than Polamalu. For every bad play Polamalu made he made 5-6 spectacular plays that helped the Steelers win games. To be the best player on a team known for defense says a lot for how great a player Polamalu was. When he was off the field injured the Steelers defense wasn't the same. Would you take Woodson over Polamalu?

As ABQCowboy said, they played in completely different schemes. Some of the great things that Polamalu did would have been muted playing in the bend-but-down-break scheme. He also would not have been as good covering slot WRs. On the flip side I doubt that Woodson would have made as many big plays as Polamalu if he played in the Steelers scheme; although, he likely would have had better "stats" in the big play area than he did with the Cowboys.

The "best" player for the team is not always the player that is considered the best at the position.

 

[KJJ]

As ABQCowboy said, they played in completely different schemes. Some of the great things that Polamalu did would have been muted playing in the bend-but-down-break scheme. He also would not have been as good covering slot WRs. On the flip side I doubt that Woodson would have made as many big plays as Polamalu if he played in the Steelers scheme; although, he likely would have had better "stats" in the big play area than he did with the Cowboys.

The "best" player for the team is not always the player that is considered the best at the position.

It makes no difference what scheme a player played in they're judged on their performance. A scheme a player played in isn't taken into consideration when voting for the HOF. A player does what's asked of them within the scheme they play in and that's how they'll be judged. Who was the better player in your opinion Woodson or Polamalu?

 

[xwalker]

It makes no difference what scheme a player played in they're judged on their performance. A scheme a player played in isn't taken into consideration when voting for the HOF. A player does what's asked of them within the scheme they play in and that's how they'll be judged. Who was the better player in your opinion Woodson or Polamalu?

If I was Jimmy Johnson and both Woodson and Polamalu were in the 1992 draft and I know what I know now, I would take Woodson to play for the Cowboys.

 

[KJJ]

Woodson was a lot better.

If that was true Woodson would be in the HOF he's been eligible for the past 7 years. If he was a lot better than Polamalu Jerry would have added him to the ROH years ago along with 5 of his teammates.

 

[KJJ]

If I was Jimmy Johnson and both Woodson and Polamalu were in the 1992 draft and I know what I know now, I would take Woodson to play for the Cowboys.

Glad you weren't Jimmy Polamalu would have been the best player on that defense maybe even better than Haley. Polamalu's Steelers teams won with defense.

 

[xwalker]

Glad you weren't Jimmy Polamalu would have been the best player on that defense maybe even better than Haley.

I don't think you understand schemes and the bend but don't break philosophy. Jimmy did not tolerate gambling.

 

[burmafrd]

If that was true Woodson would be in the HOF he's been eligible for the past 7 years. If he was a lot better than Polamalu Jerry would have added him to the ROH years ago along with 5 of his teammates.

yeah and Bob Hayes waited how long to be in the HOF?
Look how long Haley had to wait. Mainly because he showed deserved contempt to the media.

by the way I said he was better. Not a lot better but then reading comprhension is clearly among many things you do not do well.

 

[CowboyMike]

I don't think you understand schemes and the bend but don't break philosophy. Jimmy did not tolerate gambling.

Frankly, I don't think he understands the concept of the comma and the period. Let's tackle those first, then move on to schemes.

Glad you weren't Jimmy Polamalu would have been the best player on that defense maybe even better than Haley.

I've never heard of Jimmy Polamalu.

 

[KJJ]

I don't think you understand schemes and the bend but don't break philosophy. Jimmy did not tolerate gambling.

Jimmy didn't have an instinctive player like Polamalu he would have designed something to fit his skill set once he realized what he had that's what great coaches do when they recognize that have a special player. Landry didn't like Staubach running it was instinctive but it worked so Landry put up with it and no one was a stickler for detail like Tom Landry. He wanted Dorsett to go where the play was designed not change directions but he created a lot of big plays and Landry allowed him to do his thing. Great coaches make exceptions when they realize they have a special player with unique skills and Jimmy would have allowed Polamalu to do his thing. Bill Cowher said yesterday they had Polamalu play more disciplined when he first arrived in Pittsburgh but once he and his staff recognized how instinctive Polamalu was they allowed him to freelance and make plays.

 

[burmafrd]

Glad you weren't Jimmy Polamalu would have been the best player on that defense maybe even better than Haley. Polamalu's Steelers teams won with defense.

you are now getting hysterical.

 

[burmafrd]

Jimmy didn't have an instinctive player like Polamalu he would have designed something to fit his skill set that's what great coaches do when they recognize that have a special player. Landry didn't like Staubach running it was instinctive but it worked so Landry put up with it and no one was a stickler for detail like Tom Landry. He wanted Dorsett to go where the play was designed not change directions but he created a lot of big plays and Landry allowed him to do his thing. Great coaches make exceptions when they realize they have a special player with unique skills and Jimmy would have allowed Polamalu to do his thing. Bill Cowher said yesterday they had Polamalu play more disciplined when he first arrived in Pittsburgh but once he and his staff recognized how instinctive Polamalu was they allowed him to freelance and make plays.

always knew you were not a cowboy fan. Just wondered which team you really were a fan of. Now we know.

 

[xwalker]

Jimmy didn't have an instinctive player like Polamalu he would have designed something to fit his skill set once he realized what he had that's what great coaches do when they recognize that have a special player. Landry didn't like Staubach running it was instinctive but it worked so Landry put up with it and no one was a stickler for detail like Tom Landry. He wanted Dorsett to go where the play was designed not change directions but he created a lot of big plays and Landry allowed him to do his thing. Great coaches make exceptions when they realize they have a special player with unique skills and Jimmy would have allowed Polamalu to do his thing. Bill Cowher said yesterday they had Polamalu play more disciplined when he first arrived in Pittsburgh but once he and his staff recognized how instinctive Polamalu was they allowed him to freelance and make plays.

Doubtful. Jimmy would have killed Farve. There is no possibility that Farve would have led the league in INTs under Jimmy. It just wouldn't happen.

 

[KJJ]

Doubtful. Jimmy would have killed Farve.

Yeah because Favre was a turnover machine but in the Cowboys offense he wouldn't have had to throw as much with Emmitt in the backfield. Aikman could have been as productive as Favre but with the Great Wall of Dallas and Emmitt running behind them the Cowboys didn't have throw a lot.

 

[CowboyMike]

Jimmy didn't have an instinctive player like Polamalu he would have designed something to fit his skill set once he realized what he had that's what great coaches do when they recognize that have a special player.

Jimmy had plenty of instinctive players. They were just disciplined and played within his scheme.

Jimmy didn't have a player like Polamalu because Jimmy didn't want a player like Polamalu.

 

[KJJ]

Jimmy had plenty of instinctive players. They were just disciplined and played within his scheme.

Jimmy didn't have a player like Polamalu because Jimmy didn't want a player like Polamalu.

Ask Jimmy if he would have liked to have had a player like Polamalu. No one liked disciplined players more than Landry he demanded discipline but he bent once he saw the plays Staubach could make with his legs and allowed Dorsett to run to day light even if it wasn't where the play was designed. That was out of character for Landry but he recognized that he had 2 players with special talents and allowed them to make plays.

 

[KJJ]

I've never heard of Jimmy Polamalu.

Even without the comma I think most could comprehend that post sorry you couldn't.