Police shoot and kill 8th grader carrying a pellet gun

[dback]

Guess your just mad.

Please enlighten us with you're GPA.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

I don't see much political about it.

You point a gun at an officer, you're going to get shot.

Pretty simple really.

A 15 year old kid who was obviously distressed? A week ago a few blocks from my house a guy was reaching to the passenger side floor and got shot twice by a cop. That's wonderful. Keep up the good work officer, he'll probably get a medal and they get a bodybag.

Before it comes out: No i'm not someone that thinks rebelling against the cops is cool, heck im a member of a Police Youth group in my area and my father was a police officer. Ending someones life should not be a decision taken likely, and killing someone under 18 who was emotionally distressed should not be viewed upon as being something that is right. He could've taken a non-lethal shot, that I would have no problem with.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Please enlighten us with you're GPA.

4.0 after my first semester.

 

[Hoofbite]

A 15 year old kid who was obviously distressed? A week ago a few blocks from my house a guy was reaching to the passenger side floor and got shot twice by a cop. That's wonderful. Keep up the good work officer, he'll probably get a medal and they get a bodybag.

Before it comes out: No i'm not someone that thinks rebelling against the cops is cool, heck im a member of a Police Youth group in my area and my father was a police officer. Ending someones life should not be a decision taken likely, and killing someone under 18 who was emotionally distressed should not be viewed upon as being something that is right. He could've taken a non-lethal shot, that I would have no problem with.

1. You're assuming they knew the kid had problems.

2. It doesn't matter. A kid with issues can kill someone just the same. Whether or not he had issues doesn't matter at the moment, all that matters is someone is pointing a gun at the police. The fact that he had issues makes the situation sad because it probably could have been avoided but it doesn't matter in the heat of the moment.

You don't think cops realize the consequences of their actions? You don't think they realize they took someone's life and that kid's parents no longer have a child?

A "non-lethal" shot, as in the leg, still leaves the possibility of return fire.

It's easy to say they should have shot him in the knee or some crap like that when it isn't your *** on the line. Every day they go out there facing a realistic possibility that they may not go home.

Rules regarding life and death or simple. There is no grey area because grey area WILL CAUSE more deaths. If you have a cop who's hesitant or goes for the disabling shot instead of the kill shot, he or the guys next to him could be shot and killed.

I don't know how you could call it brutality. Brutality occurs when police acted unprovoked. In this case, they were provoked.

Odds are, this wasn't a turn the corner into gunfire situation. I'd bet everything they had him surrounded, ordered him to drop the gun and then shot him only when they had to.

Tell me you believe they killed a child unprovoked. I challenged you to take that stance.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

1. You're assuming they knew the kid had problems.

2. It doesn't matter. A kid with issues can kill someone just the same. Whether or not he had issues doesn't matter at the moment, all that matters is someone is pointing a gun at the police. The fact that he had issues makes the situation sad because it probably could have been avoided but it doesn't matter in the heat of the moment.

You don't think cops realize the consequences of their actions? You don't think they realize they took someone's life and that kid's parents no longer have a child?

A "non-lethal" shot, as in the leg, still leaves the possibility of return fire.

It's easy to say they should have shot him in the knee or some crap like that when it isn't your *** on the line. Every day they go out there facing a realistic possibility that they may not go home.

Rules regarding life and death or simple. There is no grey area because grey area WILL CAUSE more deaths. If you have a cop who's hesitant or goes for the disabling shot instead of the kill shot, he or the guys next to him could be shot and killed.

I don't know how you could call it brutality. Brutality occurs when police acted unprovoked. In this case, they were provoked.

Odds are, this wasn't a turn the corner into gunfire situation. I'd bet everything they had him surrounded, ordered him to drop the gun and then shot him only when they had to.

Tell me you believe they killed a child unprovoked. I challenged you to take that stance.

"Brutality" may not be the right wording however provoked I highly doubt that every option was exhausted, you have two cops against the kid and one can easily take a non lethal shot. In the end it wasn't even a real gun. It is a sad situation and it is part of the reason I dislike guns.

 

[Hoofbite]

"Brutality" may not be the right wording however provoked I highly doubt that every option was exhausted, you have two cops against the kid and one can easily take a non lethal shot. In the end it wasn't even a real gun. It is a sad situation and it is part of the reason I dislike guns.

You aren't getting it.

They are trained to act in a certain manner.

There is not time to talk over an alternative.

The gun looked as real as any gun could.

And you dislike guns because cops use them within the legal boundaries that are afforded to them?

Your issue is, you dislike guns so you find fault with guns in this situation. You're young and your response is expected given your position. You'll learn, at least I hope you will, to separate your ideology from reality.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

"Brutality" may not be the right wording however provoked I highly doubt that every option was exhausted, you have two cops against the kid and one can easily take a non lethal shot. In the end it wasn't even a real gun. It is a sad situation and it is part of the reason I dislike guns.

You simply don't understand what you're talking about. Its as simple as that.

Moving on..

 

[rkell87]

ugh, R2A will you just do me a favor and take sean lee out of your avatar? i'm starting to associate him with you and i hate that cause i really like him and i shutter to think that you may represent a generation.

 

[TRUTH87]

wow, dumb dumb dumb. point your fake gun @ a cop. i mean think about it? what good can come of this? if im a cop and someone is pointing a gun @ me, no doubt ima **** his ***. they have the authority to use it within reasoning.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

ugh, R2A will you just do me a favor and take sean lee out of your avatar? i'm starting to associate him with you and i hate that cause i really like him and i shutter to think that you may represent a generation.

Too bad. Called his greatness while you all were on SpecEd kids bandwagon.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Too bad. Called his greatness while you all were on SpecEd kids bandwagon.

:laugh2:

Pipe down junior, you didn't even know who he was until you read his draft profile. News flash, you didn't discover Sean Lee. lol

 

[rkell87]

Too bad. Called his greatness while you all were on SpecEd kids bandwagon.

i don't even know what that means but whatever, others on here are willing let you slide cause you are young but i know you are old enough to get called on your stupidity

 

[Cowboy Brian]

i don't even know what that means but whatever, others on here are willing let you slide cause you are young but i know you are old enough to get called on your stupidity

I'm stupid because I have posted contradictory statements that have proved true more often than not? Alrite, keepup the good work then.

 

[bounce]

He could've taken a non-lethal shot, that I would have no problem with.

Or why didn't they try and stop time when a bullet fired from the gun was in mid-air? They could've inspected it and determined it was a pellet and not a lethal bullet.

Or one of them could have pinned him to the wall with the webs fired from their wrists.


Just using movie examples since that's evidently where you get your grasp of police work - despite your dad being a cop.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Wow, and after seeing more quotes from the parents of this boy, i have no doubt they were awful parents, and now awful people as well.

The mother is quoted as saying, "He was just a boy, like any boy.. they had no right to do this."

Are you friggin serious lady?? Get off it.. and now they plan to look for a lawyer and sue the officer or officers who shot this kid too? As if he isn't suffering enough in his own head and heart over having to shoot this kid.. unbelievable.

The parents actions and statements make me want to vomit.

what did you want them to say

we don't blame the lovely police officer who killed our son, he had it coming?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

What is wrong with you?



What an ignorant comment.

he said he would do anything the fuzz told him to do, I highly doubt that is the case as I could think of a few things that if I wrote would get me a suspension from this site which I know he wouldn't do.

 

[vta]

what did you want them to say

we don't blame the lovely police officer who killed our son, he had it coming?

Probably not, but they could grieve for their son in a number of ways, without looking to blame someone outside of their sphere of influence. The cop didn't do anything wrong under the circumstances.

 

[bounce]

Probably not, but they could grieve for their son in a number of ways, without looking to blame someone outside of their sphere of influence. The cop didn't do anything wrong under the circumstances.

True - but they're also going through THE most devastating thing a parent can go through. They're not thinking rationally. They're trying to reason it, and they can't. It's a stage of grief. It's natural. Let them grieve.

Their complaints and lawsuits are baseless, and they'll get nowhere with them - but let them think irrationally for a bit. They just lost a child.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Probably not, but they could grieve for their son in a number of ways, without looking to blame someone outside of their sphere of influence. The cop didn't do anything wrong under the circumstances.

the court will decide if that is the case, and of course they are going to blame someone for their child's death, no way they can blame their own kid

it's like how Princess Diana's boyfriend's dad to this day insists Henri Paul, his employee wasn't wasted and that she was the victim of a hit, otherwise he has to blame himself for employing a guy who led to his son's death

these parents are going to blame someone instead of facing fact their kid did something dumb and it led to his death

 

[zrinkill]

Not surprised at all about R2A or CanadianCowboysFans comments on this.

One comes from ignorance.

The other comes from twisted morals.

This was a tragedy ...... and this childs mental or emotional problems have ruined many lives and tragically ended his.