Poll: The Jake Ferguson Incompletion Turned Interception

[Cowboys5217]

You can argue whatever you want. It's still stupid.

"The throw has to be perfect but the receiver has a wide margin for error." That is your argument, and it is dumb.

No, that is a straw man. That's not what he claimed. It is possible for there to be blame for both parties involved. It's not zero sum game or a strict binary. Yes, Turd Ferguson should have caught it, and yes, Dak's pass was off and put Ferg in a tough spot. More blame for Ferg, but Dak also bears responsibility for ball placement.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Why am I not surprised to see the ones who are blaming #4. I would bet they never played football in their entire lives. #4 put the ball right between his eyes and allowed Ferguson to shield his defender from knocking down the ball down.

Do I need to post the video of Justin Jefferson again explaining to you non-football players where WR's want the ball? I also posted a pop-warner video because it goes back to the pop-warner. I won't waste my time because it won't make a difference here. But the truth is out there.

I'm a varsity Letterman and played at the JUCO level. What have you done in football?

 

[CT Dal Fan]

What kind of question is that? It wasn’t a great throw but he still should have caught it.

Who is voting they don’t want him to catch it or don’t think he’s capable of catching it?

Essentially this question gets divided into those that think Ferguson should have caught it and those that just want to dump on the QB more for throwing an off target pass. Because there really hasn't been enough said about Dak yet. (sarcasm)

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

But that's not the direction he's moving.

Let's say you're driving your car down the road. What "direction" is "in front"?

It doesn't matter where you turn your head, right?

If you are confused (or wrong) about that...you shouldn't be driving.

I don't care if you think insulting people means you're right. Because you're not.

By the way...I voted ferg...so you can take YOUR "hate" and you know what.

he was running from the right of the field to the left, turned his chest forward to recieve the pass, hands was in front, slightly above his head.

not sure what's so confusing about this for you.

like I said, you are twisting yourself into a double knot pretzel (an analogy, not an insult since you are utterly sensitive). now you are talking about cars, directions,

routine route. routine play. every team runs it every week. happens all the time. fergi was at fault. that was his second drop of the game. facts. not opinion.

you voted ferg, with a "but".

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

No, that is a straw man. That's not what he claimed. It is possible for there to be blame for both parties involved. It's not zero sum game or a strict binary. Yes, Turd Ferguson should have caught it, and yes, Dak's pass was off and put Ferg in a tough spot. More blame for Ferg, but Dak also bears responsibility for ball placement.

no QB and I mean no QB, mahomes included throws a perfect pass everytime, and put it exactly where it needs to be. some do it more often than others.

this was a routine play. should have been a routine catch. fergi plain dropped it. that was his second drop that game. he has had others this year. he has fumbling issues. he is just not playing well right now.

so I put 99% of the blame on Fergi. 1% on dak to make you happy.

 

[Cmac]

Did you notice the poll?

I'm guessing 92% of this phantom "fan club" want him gone.

Didn't bother looking at the polls......didn't even do the polls as well. Simply commenting on some of the posts....that ranged from ball with too much rotation, Fergie's body was twisting, or coming in to fast, etc. That's all I was commenting on.

 

[HungryLion]

In real time the pass seemed to be behind Ferg. My opinion. Or are some of us not allowed to have opinions that might be pointing to a not-so-great pass?

The ball wasn’t behind him. Opinions are fine when they don’t go against clear visual evidence right in front of your face.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

You can argue whatever you want. It's still stupid.

"The throw has to be perfect but the receiver has a wide margin for error." That is your argument, and it is dumb.

The throw has a margin of error too, but when it’s wrong in that specific nature, the receiver has to definitely catch it or it can be disastrous

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

he is a 10M a year TE.... is expectations that Dak walks it up, and puts it in his belly and gives him a pat on the back?
in that case Fergi would have fumbled it away anyway

Yeah Ferguson blew it, I’m not disputing that. I was saying the issue with the throw doesn’t have as much to do with the drop

 

[DarkVader33]

Are we only holding Ferg to this? Is the high(er) paid QB going to skate any responsibility?

Yes because he doesn’t have any. That ball was 100% catchable. You only want to put blame on the QB because his name is Dakota.

 

[Whirlwin]

The modern term is Stick'em Excrete.

They need to stop eating, sticky buns, no pun intended, lol

 

[Whirlwin]

Voting no was like saying, Turpin, didn’t fumble the ball either

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

That’s a catchable ball regardless if little behind. No excuses, even he would say, he should have caught the ball.

 

[Whirlwin]

so here is the sequence and supposed twist!!
looks like he is leading him, fergi is reaching up and front for the pass

then, his hands are clear in front of him, reaching for the ball. this is a catch if we didn't see anything else (at least the assumption)

then , ball hits his hands. still reaching in front of him...but you can see his hands didn't close in time (didn't make a nest for the ball to land).
and it looks like the ball is coming out of his hands. no twist. just not closing his hands to secure the ball

then the ball is bouncing up and you can see his head starting to turn, twist

then he is twisting, trying to slow down, looking back at the ball...

this was clearly fergi. people argue, "the ball was too fast....maybe his little pinky went ouchy"...
catch the damn ball.
this was his second drop of the game.

Yes, but Prescott holds on to the ball too long , lol
I stopped arguing discussing, debating, with a certain crowd a while ago, at some point, you have to stop hitting yourself in the head with a hammer, lol and let it go,

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Didn't bother looking at the polls......didn't even do the polls as well. Simply commenting on some of the posts....that ranged from ball with too much rotation, Fergie's body was twisting, or coming in to fast, etc. That's all I was commenting on.

Yeah...there's a few people that *THINK* it *COULD* have been a better pass.

And yet STILL 92% blame Ferg for the incompletion. HARDLY the "fan club" you imagined.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

That’s a catchable ball regardless if little behind. No excuses, even he would say, he should have caught the ball.

92%.

check that...94%

Has there EVER been any such consensus of that magnitude?

I'm not even sure "Jerry suck/Jerry doesn't suck" poll would be that.

and yet all The Likely Suspects can do is shed tears.... running around crying their eyes out because people are unfairly picking on Dak.

I guess they follow they're leader's lead.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

he was running from the right of the field to the left, turned his chest forward to recieve the pass, hands was in front, slightly above his head.

not sure what's so confusing about this for you.

like I said, you are twisting yourself into a double knot pretzel (an analogy, not an insult since you are utterly sensitive). now you are talking about cars, directions,

routine route. routine play. every team runs it every week. happens all the time. fergi was at fault. that was his second drop of the game. facts. not opinion.

you voted ferg, with a "but".

I'm, twisting NOTHING.

Yes...he was running to his right. Which puts IN FRONT OF HIM...ot the right.

If he were standing still...you;d be correct. Stop..turn to the QB receive the ball IN FRONT.

That's not what happened.

You;re the one all twisted up.

Voting Ferg's fault isn;t good enough for 'you guys". I have to praise Dak to high heaven what an absolute perfect GEM of a throw it was.

SO you can kick and scream and cry...I'm not doing it. I can handle the truth.

That is all...done.

 

[Cmac]

Yeah...there's a few people that *THINK* it *COULD* have been a better pass.

And yet STILL 92% blame Ferg for the incompletion. HARDLY the "fan club" you imagined.

"Fan Club" thoughts IMHO. Worth as much as my 2-cent post. No problem. Do you think he should have caught that ball?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Voting no was like saying, Turpin, didn’t fumble the ball either

6% of 'zone voted "no"..."you guys" (The Likley Suspects) acting like there's a landslide of unreasonable hate.

It's plain nuts.

There's never been a 'zone poll so one-sided.

 

[BobSacamano]

Bro. People would take your dislike of Dak more seriously if you showed some objectivity.

That’s a pass that any paid NFL pass catcher needs to make. It’s not even that hard of a pass for a professional receiver or tight end to make

He (the poster) knows HE couldn’t catch it because it was a hard throw.

NFL professionals; however, should be able to handle a fast ball.

I’m pretty sure jug machines aren’t lobbing perfectly timed and velocity footballs.