PREDICTION: Cowboys will draft Ahmad Brooks

[Hostile]

Well I would certainly hope so, considering those guys were all street free agents.

I'm not against Brooks, really, I just think a lot of people are caught up in the hype of "potential" with him. Sure, it sounds great to get this talented player a year early and assume all his problems are behind him, but next year's draft will be here sooner than we think, and it's going to hurt if this season shows that we still need a right tackle, or a guard, or a nosetackle, or a free safety, or even a wide receiver, and we don't have a pick to fill that need.

There's still Free Agency and trades.

I've liked Brooks since his Sophomore year. It isn't new hype with me.

 

[The Answer]

It's called freedom of expression. It means you don't pick the topics people choose to talk about.

The Answer thinks it's an irrelevant topic....we are very deep now at LB and why waste a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a guy that might not even make the roster?

Who's roster spot are you willing to give up to get him for that matter? James? Singleton? Ware?

~The Answer

 

[Hostile]

The Answer thinks it's an irrelevant topic....we are very deep now at LB and why waste a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a guy that might not even make the roster?

Who's roster spot are you willing to give up to get him for that matter? James? Singleton? Ware?

~The Answer

I already said. Shanle, Fowler, Parham or Hoyte. Take your pick.

 

[speedkilz88]

The Answer thinks it's an irrelevant topic....we are very deep now at LB and why waste a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a guy that might not even make the roster?

Who's roster spot are you willing to give up to get him for that matter? James? Singleton? Ware?

~The Answer

What a post.

 

[The Answer]

I already said. Shanle, Fowler, Parham or Hoyte. Take your pick.

Since Beastle is going nowhere....it would have to be one of the other three. Parham and Hoyte are likely practice squad bound, so I guess it's time to say bye bye to Ryan "The QB Killah" Fowler and his 19 career tackles....

~The Answer

 

[speedkilz88]

Since Beastle is going nowhere....it would have to be one of the other three. Parham and Hoyte are likely practice squad bound, so I guess it's time to say bye bye to Ryan "The QB Killah" Fowler and his 19 career tackles....

~The Answer

Beastle?Shanle is the bottom dwellar of the depth chart. He is undersized and lost his spotto Fowler last year because he was so overmatched.

 

[The Answer]

Beastle?Shanle is the bottom dwellar of the depth chart. He is undersized and lost his spotto Fowler last year because he was so overmatched.

For at least the 20th time....Shanle was replaced by Fowler because he was INJURED. And it's a damn shame because he was on his way to a CAREER YEAR and was just finding his niche in the 3-4 before the high ankle sprain stuffing the run and flying all over the football field.

The only good thing to come out of it is that we were able to resign him for dirt cheap, because if he had stayed healthy his value would have risen higher than the price of gasoline in southern california!

~The Answer

 

[speedkilz88]

For at least the 20th time....Shanle was replaced by Fowler because he was INJURED. And it's a damn shame because he was on his way to a CAREER YEAR and was just finding his niche in the 3-4 before the high ankle sprain stuffing the run and flying all over the football field.

The only good thing to come out of it is that we were able to resign him for dirt cheap, because if he had stayed healthy his value would have risen higher than the price of gasoline in southern california!

~The Answer

The coaches are so confident in BEASTLE that they signed Akin Ayodele to start at the spot he lost to Fowler.

Edit/ When Parcells signed Parham and Hoyte he said he hoped he could find another Fowler. NOT BEASTLE

 

[The Answer]

The coaches are so confident in BEASTLE that they signed Akin Ayodele to start at the spot he lost to Fowler.

Ayodele isn't a lock to start....in fact there was a great article posted on here last week about Shanle's offseason workout program back home in Ohio and how he's coming off a career year and is competing for a starting spot on this team. And right now The Answer feels that he has a leg up on Ayodele since he already has valuable exposure playing in the 3-4...worst case scenario is that Ayodele does start and we have a starting calibur LB backing him up....

~The Answer

 

[big dog cowboy]

Ayodele isn't a lock to start....in fact there was a great article posted on here last week about Shanle's offseason workout program back home in Ohio and how he's coming off a career year and is competing for a starting spot on this team.

The general thinking is Shanle is competing for a roster spot not a starting spot.

 

[ConcreteBoy]

I believe Dallas won a lot of Games when he started right after Dat's injury. Shanle's injury kept him out Turkey game and Fowlers starts in December were disastrous for our defense....

Shanle is a quality backup that can play inside/outside and cover, and play ST.

 

[speedkilz88]

Ayodele isn't a lock to start....in fact there was a great article posted on here last week about Shanle's offseason workout program back home in Ohio and how he's coming off a career year and is competing for a starting spot on this team. And right now The Answer feels that he has a leg up on Ayodele since he already has valuable exposure playing in the 3-4...worst case scenario is that Ayodele does start and we have a starting calibur LB backing him up....

~The Answer

It was his career year, because he had done nothing in prior years. With Dat's injury he got a lot more opportunity to play. He just sucked at it and if Brooks is drafted he will have a tough time making this team.

As I already pointed out that Parcells said he hoped to find another Fowler. So he likes him, Shanle isn't a good fit.

 

[The Answer]

I believe Dallas won a lot of Games when he started right after Dat's injury. Shanle's injury kept him out Turkey game and Fowlers starts in December were disastrous for our defense....

Shanle is a quality backup that can play inside/outside and cover, and play ST.

Exactly the reasons why Shanle's roster spot is secure, despite what some people on this board seem to think. It's hard to find versatile players that can play both the 3-4 and 4-3 defense, wreak havoc in the nickel package, play multiple positions, and also be Special Teams machine....all at the low bargain price of $722K

The kid was on his way to a career year before the Denver game.....we were a much better run defense with him in the lineup...in fact we were a meager 4-6 when Shanle didn't start.

JJ get this kid extended...because The Answer has a feeling he's going to have a monster camp!

~The Answer

 

[The Answer]

It was his career year, because he had done nothing in prior years. With Dat's injury he got a lot more opportunity to play. He just sucked at it and if Brooks is drafted he will have a tough time making this team.

As I already pointed out that Parcells said he hoped to find another Fowler. So he likes him, Shanle isn't a good fit.

He's only entering his 4th year....50 tackles and 1.5 sacks in limited time aren't too shabby considering he wasn't even drafted.

As for Shanle not being a 'good fit' with Parcells...the kid was a walk at Nebraska! And he ended up starting 3 years there....bottom line is that he's a gridiron soldier and parcells has made a career collecting these type of blue collar players that come out of nowhere to be all pros in this league.

~The Answer

 

[MiStar]

As exciting as it might be to go for broke this year, using a high pick on Brooks would be an expensive luxury. We've already got two guys who have proven that they are up to snuff. Furthermore, it costs us almost nothing in roster spots or monetarily against the cap to keep them.

At some point we will have to replenish our WR corps and our OL, and we'll be needing all the high picks that we can get.

 

[MapleLeaf]

I agree that we will try and get him. I don't know if we will that high.

...is for one of the three or four teams who end up in front of us in the 2007 draft to spend a first rounder on this guy.

He may be a fabulous talent, but if we turn the clock back to right after the 2006 draft, after we took Carpenter no one, from media pundits to Zone members, were talking about how weak we were at LB.

We still have not reasonably addressed some of our other concerns that we exited the recent draft with, let's save our draft picks for premium players that have worked hard through this upcoming college season.

Now if he's there for a sixth or seventh, then I would say "value has met opportunity". At that low a draft pick you can throw need out the door because one can only hope that picks from those rounds just stick on the squad.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Let's see:

1. We have a logjam at linebacker.
2. We're trying to emphasis character.
3. Here's a guy who has a drug problem (those type problems don't go away that easy) and apparently had one so bad that he got kicked off the team.
4. We give up a pick in the upcoming draft if we select Brooks, and we don't know yet what our draft position will be.
5. Even if he's drafted, he still has to sign, and he's already missed mini-camp so he's behind on his development. If he doesn't come in right away, he'll be even further behind in his development.
6. If he gets drafted high, he's going to want top payola, or he could hold the team hostage and re-enter the 2007 draft. Or he may think he should have been drafted higher and still pull the same stunt.

Sorry, I see no benefits for taking Brooks before the fourth round, if that high.

If we use a fourth on him, okay, that's less of a gamble. But no way should any team - based on the points I just outlined - take this guy before the third round.

however I say not before the 5th

 

[Bob Sacamano]

James. 1 year good play.

Akin. 0 years at ILB.

These guys MAY turn out good. But neither is proven

The other guys at ILB are even less proven.

So what is that? About 1 year of experience as a 3-4 ILB among the starters and backups.

Nice.

Logjam for sure.

Brooks isn't proven, so why not just work with the unproven players we already have instead of spending a coveted 1st day pick on another unproven ILB?

 

[Bizwah]

however I say not before the 5th

I also agree with Tykeonedoe

 

[superpunk]

Brooks isn't proven, so why not just work with the unproven players we already have instead of spending a coveted 1st day pick on another unproven ILB?

Well, he did have a decent day against the Terps once.

Never overlook that.

fear the turtle.