Premier League

[jterrell]

Man City got further along in the FA Cup than Chelsea and they also won the League Cup defeating Chelsea along the way.

It was the FA Cup where they beat Chelsea but lost the next match so the advantage was the one win.
Chelsea lost to Sunderland 1-2 in the Quarters not Man City in Cap one/League Cup.

Chelsea had two Super Cup wins before losing to Real Madrid.
Then Chelsea had had the longer UCL run so even with the ties have had 1 more win.

 

[joseephuss]

Chelsea has 39 wins in the 13/14 season.
Man City after the win today has 38.
Not that hard to verify this.

http://www.espnfc.com/team/fixtures/_/id/363/chelsea?cc=5901

It was the FA Cup where they beat Chelsea but lost the next match so the advantage was the one win.
Chelsea lost to Sunderland 1-2 in the Quarters not Man City in Cap one/League Cup.

Chelsea had two Super Cup wins before losing to Real Madrid.
Then Chelsea had had the longer UCL run so even with the ties have had 1 more win.

It is easy to verify. The Champions Cup(not Super Cup) are only preseason matches. They aren't real games. Those may be fun games that are played here in the U.S., but they aren't legitimate competition games. They are only there to prepare the teams for the regular season and real competitions.

 

[joseephuss]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/socce...-before-taking-his-corner-kick-205443558.html

 

[RastaRocket]

Racism is brutal over there. Good for him, I'm a big Alves fan, and that was funny.

 

[windward]

I hope Everton can at least get a draw vs City. But regardless of finish, th year has been resounding success for Liverpool and we ain't going anywhere anytime soon.

#YNWA

 

[RastaRocket]

 

[joseephuss]

I heard they found the fan who threw the banana and he has now been banned for life.

 

[jterrell]

It is easy to verify. The Champions Cup(not Super Cup) are only preseason matches. They aren't real games. Those may be fun games that are played here in the U.S., but they aren't legitimate competition games. They are only there to prepare the teams for the regular season and real competitions.

They are real games with real rewards.
Because your club doesn't participate doesn't negate them.
Thus they are not listed as pre-season games but under the actual 13/14 season win total.

Beyond that the statement was made on the TV coverage after the Chelsea win that they had the most wins of any EPL side.
Now you know why.

I'll be watching the UCL semi-final Wednesday along with whatever team you claim.

 

[joseephuss]

They are real games with real rewards.
Because your club doesn't participate doesn't negate them.
Thus they are not listed as pre-season games but under the actual 13/14 season win total.

Beyond that the statement was made on the TV coverage after the Chelsea win that they had the most wins of any EPL side.
Now you know why.

I'll be watching the UCL semi-final Wednesday along with whatever team you claim.

I don't really claim any team, but when I do lean toward Chelsea. I've mentioned this a few times on this forum.

They weren't real games, which is why they don't play by real rules. There is no 3 man substitution limit.

You found the only link that shows them listed as "real" competition games. Pretty much everywhere else you will see those games listed as a pre-season friendly. Even the main guy who puts it together, Charlie Stillitano refers to it as a pre-season tourney.

http://www.sportspromedia.com/quick...w_to_organise_a_pre_season_soccer_tournament/

If you are going to count those games, then you have to count Man City's games in the Premier League Asia Trophy(2 wins) and the Audi Cup(1 win). I won't count those wins for the Citizens just like I won't count those wins for the Blues on U.S. soil. I wouldn't count pre-season games for the Cowboys toward their yearly total, either.

Plus I never said definitively that Manchester City had absolutely more wins this 2013-14 season. I said I think they do. Off the top of my head, I figured with the wins they accumulated in the League Cup and FA Cup were enough to give them a slight edge. And since then, looking over the information they do have a slight edge over Chelsea. It doesn't mean Man City is a better club or has had a better season. They've just put together more wins. But keep reaching. Pre-season games are real? Thanks for the laugh.

 

[MC KAos]

City! Thanks for the assist mourinho!

 

[jterrell]

I don't really claim any team, but when I do lean toward Chelsea. I've mentioned this a few times on this forum.

They weren't real games, which is why they don't play by real rules. There is no 3 man substitution limit.

You found the only link that shows them listed as "real" competition games. Pretty much everywhere else you will see those games listed as a pre-season friendly. Even the main guy who puts it together, Charlie Stillitano refers to it as a pre-season tourney.

http://www.sportspromedia.com/quick...w_to_organise_a_pre_season_soccer_tournament/

If you are going to count those games, then you have to count Man City's games in the Premier League Asia Trophy(2 wins) and the Audi Cup(1 win). I won't count those wins for the Citizens just like I won't count those wins for the Blues on U.S. soil. I wouldn't count pre-season games for the Cowboys toward their yearly total, either.

Plus I never said definitively that Manchester City had absolutely more wins this 2013-14 season. I said I think they do. Off the top of my head, I figured with the wins they accumulated in the League Cup and FA Cup were enough to give them a slight edge. And since then, looking over the information they do have a slight edge over Chelsea. It doesn't mean Man City is a better club or has had a better season. They've just put together more wins. But keep reaching. Pre-season games are real? Thanks for the laugh.

no, you don't because those do not show up on the 13/14 regular season schedule and are not UEFA games.
it isn't complicated, I provided you the link to 13/14 win totals.

The Super Cup was created by Anton Witkamp and signifies the START of the UEFA LEAGUE SEASON.
Try not to be overtly ignorant for sake of argument.
It is a very meaningful tourney that sees ONLY powerhouse clubs participate.

The Asian Cup is hosted by .. amazingly the Asian football confederation and has NOTHING to do with the European league season.
good game, good effort.
actually i lie, that is just lame and weak.

btw, Cech, Eto, Hazard, Terry all practiced today.

 

[jterrell]

City! Thanks for the assist mourinho!

you are welcome
probably does win you guys the title.
Prefer the Citizens to the Scousers for sure.

 

[joseephuss]

no, you don't because those do not show up on the 13/14 regular season schedule and are not UEFA games.
it isn't complicated, I provided you the link to 13/14 win totals.

The Super Cup was created by Anton Witkamp and signifies the START of the UEFA LEAGUE SEASON.
Try not to be overtly ignorant for sake of argument.
It is a very meaningful tourney that sees ONLY powerhouse clubs participate.

The Asian Cup is hosted by .. amazingly the Asian football confederation and has NOTHING to do with the European league season.
good game, good effort.
actually i lie, that is just lame and weak.

btw, Cech, Eto, Hazard, Terry all practiced today.

Good to hear that those guys practiced today. Cech is one of my favorites.

The Super Cup is not a tournament. It is one game that pits the previous seasons Europa League winner(Chelsea) and Champions League winner(Bayern Munich) against each other. Bayern won that game that went to PKs. Remember when Lukaku didn't score his PK? I would have counted that in the Chelsea win total had they actually won the game.

Of course that has nothing to do with counting wins in the pre-season while participating in the International Champions Cup. The Super Cup and the ICC are two completely different things and are not affiliated with one another.

The ICC, the Premier League Asia Cup, and the Audi Cup are all pre-season tourneys meant to promote leagues and teams in other countries for the sake of making more money and get the players prepared.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_International_Champions_Cup

And the LA Galaxy are a powerhouse in the MLS, but they are hardly an international powerhouse club. Their participation in the ICC should illustrate how it is not a very meaningful tourney.

 

[daschoo]

The Super Cup is technically a competitive game though it is not generally treated as such. If it wasn't for the link in the post above I wouldn't have a clue what the International Champions Cup is. Pre season "tournaments" are not competitive games in any way shape or form no matter how big and shiny the trophy handed out at the end of them.

 

[JBS]

Hala Madrid!!!!!!!!

 

[joseephuss]

I thought Real was in decent shape to move on after the first leg, but did not expect that type of game. Very impressed. Too bad Xabi Alonso will miss the final.

 

[RastaRocket]

I thought Real was in decent shape to move on after the first leg, but did not expect that type of game. Very impressed. Too bad Xabi Alonso will miss the final.

Meh, they have a log jam of world class players.

 

[joseephuss]

Meh, they have a log jam of world class players.

I'm not worried about Real. They'll fill the void. I am a fan of Xabi and disappointed he won't be playing.

 

[JBS]

Real actually doesn't have many players that can fill in for xabi

Khedira would be ideal. But he's hurt

Illaramendi is his likely replacement and is improving, but he's young and inexperienced..

When xabi was hurt to start the year, the team was horrid defensively. .. He's really a stable piece in that that midfield for this squad..

I do think Illaramendi had improved and is better suited to fill his position now than he was in sept/oct

 

[joseephuss]

I agree they can't fill the void directly player for player, but they will adjust tactics as a whole to cove up for his absence. I think they will be fine. Plus neither Atletico Madrid or Chelsea are as strong offensively as Bayern. They are not slouches, but they aren't as explosive as Bayern. There is a chance Khedira will be given the all clear by the time the final is played. I would still prefer to see Xabi involved.