Prescott NFL's leading passer on 15+ yard targets

Exactly what I was thinking. Dak just makes everyone better around him. While the excuses are going around that Wentz doesn't have weapons.
He has a running back and a reciever that was drafted in the first round. 2 decent TE a big play threat in Sproles that can also score returning punts and a top elite defense. People need to stop with the excuses, Wentz is the number 2 overall pick in the draft and isn't playing like it
 
Everyone with at least 60 attempts has 3 picks. Brady only has 39 attempts and also no picks.

Throwing the ball downfield more just leads to turnovers. And turnovers suck.
49 TD / 41 INT

That's the combined ratio of the 10 players with the most attempts on these targets.

Winston 8/4
Luck 6/4
Rthlsbrgr 7/3
Bortles 1/5
Mariota 6/3
Rodgers 4/3
Flacco 3/5
Ryan 9/3
Palmer 2/7
Dalton 3/4
 
Did you look at everybody else's?

Most of these deeper targets are incomplete. The league-wide completion rate is 41.9%. Of the 30 QB with the most attempts at this distance, Prescott ranks 5th in completion percentage.
It hurts to admit that there are people ahead of him doesnt it. Bad news, the cowboys dont have the best player at every position.
 
We don't need to pass excessively for "big plays".

In plays with passes over 25 yards, and rushes with over 10 yards, Dallas is currently #1 in differential.
 
remember when everyone was calling Dak a dink and dunk passer

good times

There's some who are still calling him that. There's one guy on the board who compared Dak's rookie season with Kyle Orton's rookie season. :facepalm::facepalm:
 
He has a running back and a reciever that was drafted in the first round. 2 decent TE a big play threat in Sproles that can also score returning punts and a top elite defense. People need to stop with the excuses, Wentz is the number 2 overall pick in the draft and isn't playing like it

Well said
 

The point isn't that efficiency goes up with increased attempts, it is that it does not necessarily go down, as you originally claimed.

You can go back through all of those quarterbacks' seasons and see that very plainly -- their highest rating split is often at attempts 21-30 or 31-40. For example, last year, Eli's rating was higher from 31-40 than from 1-10 or 21-30. In 2011, his rating went up with more attempts ... from 76.8 on attempts 1-10 to 86.5 on 11-20 to 102.1 on 21-30 to 111.3 on 31-40. Same thing with Newton last year ... from 90.3 on 1-10 to 100.2 on 11-20 to 102.4 on 21-30 to 118.1 on 31-40.

There is nothing about having more attempts that causes a quarterback to be more inefficient. What you WILL see in many cases, however, is that a quarterback often has to throw more in games when he is already inefficient, and that inefficiency might (or might not) continue, whereas greater efficiency early in the game often reduces the need to throw more later in the game. In addition, inefficiency often means that it takes more throws to accomplish the same thing that can be accomplished in fewer throws (such as going 5-for-6 on a touchdown drive in the first quarter, compared with going 5-for-10 on an equivalent drive). Again, it's the efficiency or inefficiency that helps determine the number of attempts, not the other way around.
 
The point isn't that efficiency goes up with increased attempts, it is that it does not necessarily go down, as you originally claimed.

You can go back through all of those quarterbacks' seasons and see that very plainly -- their highest rating split is often at attempts 21-30 or 31-40. For example, last year, Eli's rating was higher from 31-40 than from 1-10 or 21-30. In 2011, his rating went up with more attempts ... from 76.8 on attempts 1-10 to 86.5 on 11-20 to 102.1 on 21-30 to 111.3 on 31-40. Same thing with Newton last year ... from 90.3 on 1-10 to 100.2 on 11-20 to 102.4 on 21-30 to 118.1 on 31-40.

There is nothing about having more attempts that causes a quarterback to be more inefficient. What you WILL see in many cases, however, is that a quarterback often has to throw more in games when he is already inefficient, and that inefficiency might (or might not) continue, whereas greater efficiency early in the game often reduces the need to throw more later in the game. In addition, inefficiency often means that it takes more throws to accomplish the same thing that can be accomplished in fewer throws (such as going 5-for-6 on a touchdown drive in the first quarter, compared with going 5-for-10 on an equivalent drive). Again, it's the efficiency or inefficiency that helps determine the number of attempts, not the other way around.

And then you consider the average pass attempts in the NFL is around 35. You fixating on low attempts is fun though.
 
I have no idea what you meant to say, or what it has to do with anything I've said.

Look at the ranges you are concentrating on and think about it.

We can keep on exchanging anecdotes though if it makes you feel better. I at least tried to discuss the mechanics concerning gameplans and defensive tendencies before.
 
Look at the ranges you are concentrating on and think about it.

You mean all of the ranges that are shown in ESPN's splits? They don't show 40-plus.

Again, if what you said were true, 31-40 would tend to be the lowest of the four ranges that ESPN shows. But it's not. It's often the highest or the second-highest -- and often higher than the quarterback's overall rating. That's despite the fact that, as I noted, quarterbacks often have to throw that many times only because they were already inefficient in that game.
 
You mean all of the ranges that are shown in ESPN's splits? They don't show 40-plus.

Again, if what you said were true, 31-40 would tend to be the lowest of the four ranges that ESPN shows. But it's not. It's often the highest or the second-highest -- and often higher than the quarterback's overall rating. That's despite the fact that, as I noted, quarterbacks often have to throw that many times only because they were already inefficient in that game.

'Often?' Based on your 3 anecdotes? As opposed to my 5?

Now you are making claims on hypotheticals without basis. Any more self-assuming takes for us?
 
Who cares about any of this. Dak is the only qb in the league with a 10-1 record at that is the top stat of all at this point.
 
The list below is for the 1st half of the game only, before the number of attempts in the game would start to make much difference (assuming they would anyway).


IMG
 
Percy and Adam thanks for the analysis, that some on this board are trying to nit pick is laughable.

Having said that, if it's still considered dinking and dunking I'll ride that all the way to the Super Bowl.
 
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