Prescott Pre Draft Article

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Lol no talent ? WHAT ?

Lol last few games.....you mean the last one wher she ran into the end zone and fumbled for a td. Lol yep that's Dak
He is talking about MissSt where Dak is the best QB they have EVER had and led them to their best EVER showing.
Dak was a program defining player for MissSt.
 

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ROFL.. the best QB of all-time was fairly poor as a young starter by the same standards you numbskulls use to bash Dak, which was exactly the point.
2001 or 2016 doesn't really matter much when you rank low, you rank low.

There was of course 1 less team in 2001.

Teams who succeed maximize their QBs.

Brees is another example textbook example.
He averaged 208 yards per game for his Chargers career which was 5 seasons....
The very first year in NO he averaged 276!
Scheme matters.

Yes scheme does matter

On the other hand, Philip Rivers who took over for Brees in San Diego seems to have done quite well for himself there
 

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ROFL.. the best QB of all-time was fairly poor as a young starter by the same standards you numbskulls use to bash Dak, which was exactly the point.
2001 or 2016 doesn't really matter much when you rank low, you rank low.

There was of course 1 less team in 2001.

Teams who succeed maximize their QBs.

Brees is another example textbook example.
He averaged 208 yards per game for his Chargers career which was 5 seasons....
The very first year in NO he averaged 276!
Scheme matters.
:rolleyes: Obviously scheme matters, but even more important than scheme is growth/improvement. Brady had a slow first year, but would regularly (not always) be in both the top 10 for yardage and passer rating even with generally weak offensive supporting casts until 2007. Dak hasn't been close to the top 10 for either since his rookie year.
 

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Lol no talent ? WHAT ?

Lol last few games.....you mean the last one wher she ran into the end zone and fumbled for a td. Lol yep that's Dak

Uhhhhhh- Dak played with like one nfl player on offense during his years at miss state....some rb who was a 6th round pick....
 

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He beat up on weaker teams in college. It happens all the time. By the way, what exactly did he win in college?

As a starter he went 13-10 in the SEC, and he went 4-11 against top 25 competition. They never won the SEC West, not to mention the SEC Championship itself.

He had a great 2 game run to get to number 1. Then MSU beat a 5-7 Kentucky team, a 6-7 Arkansas team, and Non-Major Tennessee-Martin (??) team. Following that they folded and lost 3 of 4 games all to teams ranked but ranked below MSU.

Tim Tebow won a state championship in high school, won two college national championships, and went 7-4 and won a playoff game in his second season with Denver. Does that make him a great quarterback?

Yes, you are what you are in some senses. However, sometime how you got where you are is just as important (if not more so).

Good kid, but the reports on him before the draft were and, unfortunately, still are accurate. Like I said I root for him, and hope he and those around him are able to help him improve, but right now he is what he is (and was before we drafted him).
I wish you had Parcell's eyes.

That's why Parcells got a Super Bowl with Jeff Hostetler who played just like Dak. All he did was run around be inaccurate and win game after game after game and the Super Bowl.

To show how wrong your analysis is, you compared Tim Tebow as a passing QB to Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott had 477 pass attempts his senior year compared to 314. The both has the same coach who was Prescott Head Coach. That coach built his fame on both players. Why do you think he let Prescott throw more than Tim Tebow? Because he could pass the ball better!

He is what he is and you are what you are. He is a winning QB that completes more than 60% of his passes and has a better than 2:1 ration of TDs to Ints, and that can run in at least 6 TDs and rush for 5.7 ypc avg.

Stop with the Mark Twain Statistics. "There are three kinds of lies; lies, damn lies, and statistics". Statistics show that Tony Romo was better than any QB in Dallas Cowboys history. If you believe that, you are what you are. This is Daks 3rd season. No Cowboys QB has ever started a football season without the previous no.1 WR, no.1 TE, and no.1 C. Lets see what Dak does starting off with this advantage provided by Jerry, Stephen, and Jason. So far he is 3-4, has completed +60% of his passes, has a 2:1 TD to int ratio, and has 2 TDs and a 5.7 ypc avg. He is what he his.
 

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I wish you had Parcell's eyes.

That's why Parcells got a Super Bowl with Jeff Hostetler who played just like Dak. All he did was run around be inaccurate and win game after game after game and the Super Bowl.

To show how wrong your analysis is, you compared Tim Tebow as a passing QB to Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott had 477 pass attempts his senior year compared to 314. The both has the same coach who was Prescott Head Coach. That coach built his fame on both players. Why do you think he let Prescott throw more than Tim Tebow? Because he could pass the ball better!

He is what he is and you are what you are. He is a winning QB that completes more than 60% of his passes and has a better than 2:1 ration of TDs to Ints, and that can run in at least 6 TDs and rush for 5.7 ypc avg.

Stop with the Mark Twain Statistics. "There are three kinds of lies; lies, damn lies, and statistics". Statistics show that Tony Romo was better than any QB in Dallas Cowboys history. If you believe that, you are what you are. This is Daks 3rd season. No Cowboys QB has ever started a football season without the previous no.1 WR, no.1 TE, and no.1 C. Lets see what Dak does starting off with this advantage provided by Jerry, Stephen, and Jason. So far he is 3-4, has completed +60% of his passes, has a 2:1 TD to int ratio, and has 2 TDs and a 5.7 ypc avg. He is what he his.

Sometimes you have to go by what you see and not by stats which can be deceiving. For every stat you throw up that show Dak in a good light there just as many if not more that tell you he isn’t starting materiel in the NFL. He will be a solid backup in this league. Yes the Tebow comparison is silly.
 

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I wish you had Parcell's eyes.

That's why Parcells got a Super Bowl with Jeff Hostetler who played just like Dak. All he did was run around be inaccurate and win game after game after game and the Super Bowl.

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Ironic comparison.

Hostetler's 1990 Giants Super Bowl squad, had the leagues #1 scoring defense and a top 5 rushing attack.
And won the Super Bowl.

Dak's 2018 Cowboys squad has the #1 scoring defense and a top 5 rushing attack.
And a losing record.

Fascinating. I wonder what the difference is.
 

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And then he won Rookie of the year and was an MVP candidate.

He should not have been rookie of the year. That clearly should have gone to Zeke who had he not been restrained would have broken the rookie rushing record. It was Zeke not Dak who pushed this offense forward and allowed the defense to stay off the field.

19th in passing yards, 15th in passing touchdowns, but you think he should have been an MVP candidate? That is laughable.

Zeke on the other hand lead the league in rushing with more than 300 yards over the 2nd best runner. He was also 3rd in rushing touchdowns. Note, both runners had much better QBs than Zeke did in Carson Palmer and Tom Brady.
 

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He should not have been rookie of the year. That clearly should have gone to Zeke who had he not been restrained would have broken the rookie rushing record. It was Zeke not Dak who pushed this offense forward and allowed the defense to stay off the field.

19th in passing yards, 15th in passing touchdowns, but you think he should have been an MVP candidate? That is laughable.

Zeke on the other hand lead the league in rushing with more than 300 yards over the 2nd best runner. He was also 3rd in rushing touchdowns. Note, both runners had much better QBs than Zeke did in Carson Palmer and Tom Brady.

You can argue with the coaches and football experts that voted on him.
 

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Sad part is they are spot on. He just happened to get into the best system in history under the best head coach in history.

I love the "system" arguments to try to take down Brady.

First, the Patriots offensive system dates back to the 1970s. Anybody could run the Erhardt-Perkins playbook if they wanted to. There is literally no mystery to their "system" whatsoever. You might notice that this system didn't matter in the slightest until it was Brady running it. Before that it was seen as a plodding "ground and pound" kind of scheme that was already antiquated by the 1980s. Brady starts using it and suddenly it's the scheme that was magical all along? BS.

Second, what system is so magical that it can take the mentally and physically slow player with no arm that Brady was portrayed as by draft gurus and turn them into a 5 time champion? That makes no sense at all. At some point the quarterback has to, you know, make the quick decision and throw the accurate pass under pressure. Without those talents, no offensive scheme can function in the NFL long-term.
 

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You can argue with the coaches and football experts that voted on him.

People buy into hoopla and they don't necessarily pay attention to facts and reality. What you did just now was a common logical fallacy, an appeal to authority.
 

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Ironic comparison.

Hostetler's 1990 Giants Super Bowl squad, had the leagues #1 scoring defense and a top 5 rushing attack.
And won the Super Bowl.

Dak's 2018 Cowboys squad has the #1 scoring defense and a top 5 rushing attack.
And a losing record.

Fascinating. I wonder what the difference is.
JASON GARRETT AND SCOTT LINEHAN, JERRY JONES GM, HEAD COACH, And OWNER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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That's one theory

Then again that Brain Trust is the group that's convinced Prescott is the right man for the job
No, that brain trust tried to trade up for Paxton Lynch. Wade Wilson sold Jason Garrett and Jason Garrett sold Jones on Dak Prescott only as a development player to be behind Romo (Wade and Jason knew he was more than that). However, Dak was the first QB with talent that could challenge Romo. Romo felt the first heat for his job and went playing a preseason game like the Super Bowl after Dak lit up the previous 2 preseason games. Playing with perceived competition for his job (remember he was injured the year before), he went and got himself hurt again. The rest is His-Story.
 

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No, that brain trust tried to trade up for Paxton Lynch. Wade Wilson sold Jason Garrett and Jason Garrett sold Jones on Dak Prescott only as a development player to be behind Romo (Wade and Jason knew he was more than that). However, Dak was the first QB with talent that could challenge Romo. Romo felt the first heat for his job and went playing a preseason game like the Super Bowl after Dak lit up the previous 2 preseason games. Playing with perceived competition for his job (remember he was injured the year before), he went and got himself hurt again. The rest is His-Story.

Blah blah blah

Conjecture at best
And poor conjecture at best
 

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People buy into hoopla and they don't necessarily pay attention to facts and reality. What you did just now was a common logical fallacy, an appeal to authority.

so he was 2nd behind Zeke in your opinion then? LOL

That fact would not change the argument that he was all world that year.
 

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so he was 2nd behind Zeke in your opinion then? LOL

That fact would not change the argument that he was all world that year.

It wasn't even close. He put up very average QB numbers and the team didn't ask him to do more than that. Being on a team that is winning doesn't make you a better player. Zeke was the difference maker in 2016.
 
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