Prescott Pre Draft Article

[LACowboysFan1]

From Brady's profile, one thing stands out: "Could make it in the right system ..."

Obviously, he did get in the right system. Dak did not, and after 2 1/2 years, I'm afraid he's gotten too many ingrained habits that would be difficult to break.

Could he have been another Brady? No, of course not, has anybody else won 5 SBs and been to three others? And you can't coach out every flaw, even Brady has flaws.

But we'll never know, if Dak had had Norv Turner or somebody like that as a coach I suspect he'd be a whole lot better at this point in his career. Now for as long as he's here we'll have to build a better team around him than he has now, and hope he can be another Dilfer or Flacco...

 

[LACowboysFan1]

I didn't think the tipped ball interceptions are bad luck. When you are inaccurate your WRs will tip balls and they will get intercepted

Some of the tipped balls for ints are bad luck, the ball has to bounce or be tipped to or fall where a defender is, it doesn't always do so. And every quarterback has bad throws that are tipped interceptions.

But you are right in that the more inaccurate throws there are the more likely they are to be intercepted....

 

[JustChip]

There's absolutely some truth to that.

Here's the difference. By year 3, it was fairly clear that the scouts had missed on Brady and the guy was a horse you could ride. By year 3, Richard Sherman was a 1st team all pro with 20 Career INTs. They showed quickly that the scouts had been wrong.

In year 3 of the Dak Train, there's still a lot more doubt than anything else. At this point, a lot of people (rightly so) are thinking the scouts had this one right.

Very true. But it's kind of like hindsight is 20/20. There are probably as many examples of pre-draft analysis wrong when viewed at the 3 year mark as right. It's like stats, the facts are the same, but one can create or emphasize any individual stat to support whatever position one wants to. The real value in it all is it allows us to say "see, I'm right" or "I told you so". And this isn't directed at you, just a general statement about all of us.

 

[AmishCowboy]

I think the Cowboys should tailor the offense more toward Dak's skill set, something they are not doing now

 

[Cowboysfan917]

So this is where this ridiculous narrative originated? Wow..what a crap article. Yes, he missed a few throws in the Alabama game, he also made a ton of throws and ended up losing 25-20. I let the 2nd example just keep running and watch every play. May want to do that...

1 really bad pick and 1 tipped pick. 2 tds. Offense looked like our offense now...no weapons against a great defense yet Dak gutted his way to almost winning the game.

Not to mention Dak is a better qb today.

Hmm you mean the offense of Dak’s college team looked like the offense of Dak’s pro team... hmmmmm.... I wonder who the one player who touched the ball every play on both those teams was.... it’s a mystery

 

[Cowboysfan917]

I think the Cowboys should tailor the offense more toward Dak's skill set, something they are not doing now

The problem with this is that then you are invested. You begin to draft and sign players to fit this scheme and then you find that if Dak is not the guy, even when you tailor the offense to him, you have to blow the whole thing up. If Dak is not good enough to be a pocket passer then he is not good enough to be a franchise QB.

 

[Brax]

"Not sure were you got KM as a guru, surely not from my post"

You said, and I quote "he did the QB guru/coach thing this year and it appears he got worse."

Who else has he had this year? Isn't Moore the quarterback coach? If not, which guru were you referring to?

again read the below link, it explains everything
http://www.espn.com/blog/nfceast/po...tt-hopes-a-change-in-mechanics-yields-results

 

[Dallasfann]

This is Dak's biggest flaw to this day. Nothing annoys me about his game more then this....

Prescott goes through his progressions and decides to leave the pocket prematurely. His line had the LSU front blocked. Once he leaves the pocket the defense converges on him and he decides to throw a pass across his body. He doesn’t account for the underneath corner who tees off on his wide-out.

In this scenario, Prescott compounds a bad situation by being careless with the football. He should have just opted to run for the yardage or throw the ball away.

Prescott is a rugged runner who punishes defenses once he gets moving downhill, but he doesn’t have great footwork or agility, especially in the pocket.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

again read the below link, it explains everything
http://www.espn.com/blog/nfceast/po...tt-hopes-a-change-in-mechanics-yields-results

You put the word GURU in your post. I'm just noting I don't think he had one, has nothing to do with any other article outside this site....

 

[InTheZone]

Not one mention of accuracy issues

 

[risco]

There's absolutely some truth to that.

Here's the difference. By year 3, it was fairly clear that the scouts had missed on Brady and the guy was a horse you could ride. By year 3, Richard Sherman was a 1st team all pro with 20 Career INTs. They showed quickly that the scouts had been wrong.

In year 3 of the Dak Train, there's still a lot more doubt than anything else. At this point, a lot of people (rightly so) are thinking the scouts had this one right.

I understand what you mean and you make a valid point. However, both Tom and Sherman had exceptional coaches and leaders around them. Can you say the same thing for Dak? Anyway, I will wait until the end of the season before I crucify / praise Dak.

 

[jterrell]

Not one mention of accuracy issues

The pre-draft article on Dak was all an accuracy issue.

As in completely inaccurate.

He's won 25 games as a pro. Most of any QB selected his draft or after.
Wentz has 21 and Goff 19.

Dak has shown a strong arm, an ability to run the football and severe toughness and durability.
That's plenty to build around at the position.

As to accuracy he has a whole .2 points less percentage than Aaron Rodgers. And he has had 1 game all year below 62% comp % even with WRs not know for large catch radii.

Keep posting dumb stuff tho....

 

[BoysForLife]

The pre-draft article on Dak was all an accuracy issue.

As in completely inaccurate.

So you don't think there was any accuracy at all in the pre draft assessment of Dak?

 

[jterrell]

From Brady's profile, one thing stands out: "Could make it in the right system ..."

Obviously, he did get in the right system. Dak did not, and after 2 1/2 years, I'm afraid he's gotten too many ingrained habits that would be difficult to break.

Could he have been another Brady? No, of course not, has anybody else won 5 SBs and been to three others? And you can't coach out every flaw, even Brady has flaws.

But we'll never know, if Dak had had Norv Turner or somebody like that as a coach I suspect he'd be a whole lot better at this point in his career. Now for as long as he's here we'll have to build a better team around him than he has now, and hope he can be another Dilfer or Flacco...

Brady didn't 'get' in the right system. They brought the right system to him.
Brady was initially a back up and bus driver for a good Pats defense and running game.
His first playoff year he averaged 189 yards passing per game. For comparison's sake Dak has averaged 215.

But they knew once they went with Brady they had to build around him and what he did best. The system evolved and once they were able to steal Wes Welker from Miami they had the prototype Brady-friendly guy. He was basically Beasley that broke tackles(as a former school boy RB). NE has never looked back. It has been a pass heavy spread style offense that relied on guys getting open right away and basically invented rub plays in the NFL.
NE stole college concepts long before anyone else.

For all intents and purposes NE took the 2 minute offense and just ran it all the time and they continue to tweak their system every season with new concepts and players to prevent defenses from ever getting too comfortable.

If Dak can learn anything from Brady it is how important a personal position coach is.
Brady has a team of personal coaches that keep his mind and body right.
His technques improve constantly because he never stops practicing them.

If DAL can learn anything from NE it is how to cater to your guy. Focus on what he does best and then work out from that not ask him to be a QB robot.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Is this article talking about Dak Prescott who led a team with almost zero NFL talent to the number 1 ranking in the nation?

This is silly. Obviously he has issues. Every QB does. He has been good the last few games.

It's like people saw two different games vs the red skins. I heard people say they thought it was a good game. To me it was a horrible game. I saw two bad teams play each, and while Dak did improve once he got what looked like a concussion, it still didn't look good to me.

 

[jterrell]

So you don't think there was any accuracy at all in the pre draft assessment of Dak?

I think there are about 15 teams that wish they had a scouting report begging them to draft Prescott in the first 4 rounds of his draft.
They'd either have a better QB or a far cheaper one that's similar in talent or both.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Exactly why I don't understand people just don't get it this kid is not or will never be an elite QB.

They're still comparing him to brady too.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Anyways, we’re stuck with him. For the foreseeable future Dak Prescott is the starter and the Jones boys will see to it. They love him. At least the old man does.

So sit back everyone and enjoy the ride.

 

[BoysForLife]

I think there are about 15 teams that wish they had a scouting report begging them to draft Prescott in the first 4 rounds of his draft.
They'd either have a better QB or a far cheaper one that's similar in talent or both.

That's a stretch imo.

he might be an improvement over a few guys in the league currently starting but 15?
The guys he is supposedly cheaper than and similar in talent are probably playing on rookie contracts also, so more often than not, that scenario doesn't play out in the manner you describe it

 

[Gator88]

Brady didn't 'get' in the right system. They brought the right system to him.
Brady was initially a back up and bus driver for a good Pats defense and running game.
His first playoff year he averaged 189 yards passing per game. For comparison's sake Dak has averaged 215.

That was a league with different passing rules. Averaging 189 yards then, while nothing special, is still way better than 215 yards now.