Prescott Pre Draft Article

Nexx

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The pre-draft article on Dak was all an accuracy issue.

As in completely inaccurate.

He's won 25 games as a pro. Most of any QB selected his draft or after.
Wentz has 21 and Goff 19.

Dak has shown a strong arm, an ability to run the football and severe toughness and durability.
That's plenty to build around at the position.

As to accuracy he has a whole .2 points less percentage than Aaron Rodgers. And he has had 1 game all year below 62% comp % even with WRs not know for large catch radii.

Keep posting dumb stuff tho....

so youre saying since Wentz and Goff have lower win totals Dak is better than both? what kind of logic is that?!?!?
 

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The problem with this is that then you are invested. You begin to draft and sign players to fit this scheme and then you find that if Dak is not the guy, even when you tailor the offense to him, you have to blow the whole thing up. If Dak is not good enough to be a pocket passer then he is not good enough to be a franchise QB.
So what do we do?
 

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Brady didn't 'get' in the right system. They brought the right system to him.

Not really any difference, the system he plays under suits him, whether it was there when he got there or it was developed, same result...
 

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That's a stretch imo.

he might be an improvement over a few guys in the league currently starting but 15?
The guys he is supposedly cheaper than and similar in talent are probably playing on rookie contracts also, so more often than not, that scenario doesn't play out in the manner you describe it
Bills.
Giants
Jags
Bucs
Dolphins
Titans
are basically certain. Bad teams with bad QBs all looking for answers but paying more than DAL.

Then you get to teams who would be better off with less invested in QB via trade and/or money

Was, Minny, Den, Oak(125 MILLION!!), 49ers(137.5M!!!)

Then you have some teams with recently highly drafted guys that aren't winning yet but ate very high picks to get the kid
Browns, Jets, Cards.

And a subset of teams with aging vets who will look for replacements soon: 6 teams are starting QBs older than 35.
Saints, Pitt, LAC

Reality is stable, long term answers at QB that didn't cost a team a fortune are very few and very far in between.
Every team in the league wants Pat Mahomes.
Pats would give you Brady and GB would give you Rodgers for him right now without blinking.
But that type of talent is generational and if you do not have that you better make the best of what you do have.
Because even being the worst team over a full decade like the Browns guarantees you NOT a single thing.
 

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The proliferation of read-option offenses has allowed for more college quarterbacks to put up strong numbers and wins. Dak Prescott is a solid college quarterback that has led Mississippi State to uncharted waters as a football program. However the baseline skills needed at the next level are not consistently shown in his game.........https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2015/11/04/dak-prescott/

In the NFL, if the pass protection is good, Dak wins. The stats support this concept.

The Cowboys have more invested in the OLine than probably any other team when both draft picks and cap space are considered.

The losses this season are on the OLine or OLine coach. Give Dak better pass protection, and they would have won most games.
 

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The proliferation of read-option offenses has allowed for more college quarterbacks to put up strong numbers and wins.

We have a read option QB, yet the read option doesn't proliferate here. Guess we're not interested in strong numbers and wins.
 

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Not really any difference, the system he plays under suits him, whether it was there when he got there or it was developed, same result...
Point being it wasn't dumb luck but intentional organizational focus on making Brady as successful as possible which has translated to the last NFL dynasty. The current offensive juggernauts LARams and Chiefs both have done the same thing mixing in lots of college concepts and adding offensive weapons.
 

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Could have written this article today with very few edits.

Dak's Combine profile was depressingly predictive:
WEAKNESSES
Beat up this year thanks to poor protection. When he wasn't being sacked, he was being hit hard. Not as competitive a rusher in 2015. Sacks and usage in run game might be taking a toll. Increase in short pass attempts from 86 to 208 this year reason for higher completion numbers. Accuracy on intermediate and deep throws dropped sharply. Pocket poise has been compromised. Hyper aware of pressure around him and lacks awareness to slide and find temporary shelter to make throw. Concern over pressure too often trumps ability to get through progressions. Must speed up the pace of his reads. Footwork is a mess. Slight stride onto stiff upper leg with little weight shift. Restricted follow through and too often tries to muscle throws with upper body. Throws to target rather than leading or throwing them open on short/intermediate throws. Too respectful of underneath coverage and must be more willing to challenge the defense. Needs to improve anticipation.
 

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The proliferation of read-option offenses has allowed for more college quarterbacks to put up strong numbers and wins. Dak Prescott is a solid college quarterback that has led Mississippi State to uncharted waters as a football program. However the baseline skills needed at the next level are not consistently shown in his game.........https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2015/11/04/dak-prescott/

And then he won Rookie of the year and was an MVP candidate.
 

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Is this article talking about Dak Prescott who led a team with almost zero NFL talent to the number 1 ranking in the nation?

This is silly. Obviously he has issues. Every QB does. He has been good the last few games.

Lol no talent ? WHAT ?

Lol last few games.....you mean the last one wher she ran into the end zone and fumbled for a td. Lol yep that's Dak
 

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That's not really true.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2001/passing.htm

Brady finished 22nd in passing yardage but actually only passed for more yards than 3 players who played in 15 or more games.
So he was a bottom of the barrel starter by yards passing in 2001.
Brady was 24th in yards per game just like Prescott was his rookie year. Brady also had the 13th best rushing attack in terms of yardage while Prescott had the benefit of the 2nd so fairly comparable rankings despite Prescott's huge edge in offensive supporting cast.

As for the reason that I say it is a different rule set now, the QB with the 21st most passing yards per game this year (Trubisky 259.1) would be ranked 2nd in 2001 in yards per game over Peyton Manning (258.2).
 

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In the NFL, if the pass protection is good, Dak wins. The stats support this concept.

The Cowboys have more invested in the OLine than probably any other team when both draft picks and cap space are considered.

The losses this season are on the OLine or OLine coach. Give Dak better pass protection, and they would have won most games.
I'm pretty sure most professional qb's can win with good pass protection. Is that really saying anything?
 

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Pretty much everything said in that article is still true today, only thing not discussed was leadership.
 

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Brady was 24th in yards per game just like Prescott was his rookie year. Brady also had the 13th best rushing attack in terms of yardage while Prescott had the benefit of the 2nd so fairly comparable rankings despite Prescott's huge edge in offensive supporting cast.

As for the reason that I say it is a different rule set now, the QB with the 21st most passing yards per game this year (Trubisky 259.1) would be ranked 2nd in 2001 in yards per game over Peyton Manning (258.2).
ROFL.. the best QB of all-time was fairly poor as a young starter by the same standards you numbskulls use to bash Dak, which was exactly the point.
2001 or 2016 doesn't really matter much when you rank low, you rank low.

There was of course 1 less team in 2001.

Teams who succeed maximize their QBs.

Brees is another example textbook example.
He averaged 208 yards per game for his Chargers career which was 5 seasons....
The very first year in NO he averaged 276!
Scheme matters.
 
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