Prescott vs NFL - Intermediate Throws

[percyhoward]

Of league's top 20 rated passers with a minimum of 10 attempts on passes thrown 11-20 yards past line of scrimmage.

Prescott 18 of 24 307 yd 12.8 ypa 1 td 0 int 130.6
Wentz 13 of 19 304 yd 18.0 ypa 1 td 0 int 128.7
Manning 17 of 23 298 yd 13.0 ypa 2 td 2 int 108.5
Brees 13 of 27 241 yd 8.9 ypa 2 td 0 int 104.1
Luck 12 of 23 184 yd 8.0 ypa 3 td 1 int 100.4
Smith 12 of 23 218 yd 9.5 ypa 1 td 0 int 99.5
Tannehill 19 of 34 365 yd 10.7 ypa 2 td 2 int 88.5*
Rivers 8 of 18 125 yd 6.9 ypa 1 td 0 int 86.6
Carr 7 of 19 145 yd 7.6 ypa 1 td 0 int 82.1
Dalton 12 of 22 262 yd 11.9 ypa 0 td 1 int 78.2*
Wilson 9 of 19 163 yd 8.6 ypa 0 td 0 int 77.3
Taylor 6 of 14 130 yd 9.3 ypa 0 td 0 int 76.5
Siemian 11 of 17 181 yd 10.7 ypa 9 td 1 int 75.9
Ryan 11 of 24 181 yd 7.5 ypa 1 td 1 int 68.2
Rodgers 6 of 17 81 yd 4.8 ypa 1 td 1 int 46.4
Cousins 10 of 25 175 yd 7.00 ypa 1 td 2 int 44.6

*not including Thur night game

source: Elias Sports Bureau

Prescott is only 1 of 8 for 28 yards on 20+ yard targets.

He's 10 of 11 for 191 yards 1 td 0 int (149.1) on throws of 11-20 yards between the numbers.

 

[Hawkeye19]

Garrett's offense is predicated on exploiting the intermediate passing game... Romo does not throw deep that often either.

Garrett loves to get chunks of yards, yet avoid the lower percentage deep passing game.

Dak is doing what is being asked of him within this offense. He will get even more effective with experience.

 

[Trouty]

Of league's top 20 rated passers with a minimum of 10 attempts on passes thrown 11-20 yards past line of scrimmage.

Prescott 18 of 24 307 yd 12.8 ypa 1 td 0 int 130.6
Wentz 13 of 19 304 yd 18.0 ypa 1 td 0 int 128.7
Manning 17 of 23 298 yd 13.0 ypa 2 td 2 int 108.5
Brees 13 of 27 241 yd 8.9 ypa 2 td 0 int 104.1
Luck 12 of 23 184 yd 8.0 ypa 3 td 1 int 100.4
Smith 12 of 23 218 yd 9.5 ypa 1 td 0 int 99.5
Tannehill 19 of 34 365 yd 10.7 ypa 2 td 2 int 88.5*
Rivers 8 of 18 125 yd 6.9 ypa 1 td 0 int 86.6
Carr 7 of 19 145 yd 7.6 ypa 1 td 0 int 82.1
Dalton 12 of 22 262 yd 11.9 ypa 0 td 1 int 78.2*
Wilson 9 of 19 163 yd 8.6 ypa 0 td 0 int 77.3
Taylor 6 of 14 130 yd 9.3 ypa 0 td 0 int 76.5
Siemian 11 of 17 181 yd 10.7 ypa 9 td 1 int 75.9
Ryan 11 of 24 181 yd 7.5 ypa 1 td 1 int 68.2
Rodgers 6 of 17 81 yd 4.8 ypa 1 td 1 int 46.4
Cousins 10 of 25 175 yd 7.00 ypa 1 td 2 int 44.6

*not including Thur night game

source: Elias Sports Bureau

Prescott is only 1 of 8 for 28 yards on 20+ yard targets.

He's 10 of 11 for 191 yards 1 td 0 int (149.1) on throws of 11-20 yards between the numbers.

Rodgers is a big surprise on that list -- Rodgers 6 of 17 81 yd 4.8 ypa 1 td 1 int 46.4

Is he having an early downfall? I've seen many, many fans in Packerland worrying about that, as weird as it is to say. His play has steadily declined since about week 4 of last season. He did have 4 TDs last week which is great, but his numbers (yds/ypa) are still down (his ypa was over 8 last week, to be fair, but only ~200yds). And this is with Nelson back. I personally think he lost confidence in himself due to terrible line play for a time being, and his ad lib style just wasn't working. His last game was very efficient, so most likely it's premature. But there's a lot of discussion going on about this very fact.

Dak third overall in YPA, and only .2 behind Eli! Love that nice 130.6 QB rating, too. Wentz's ypa is unreal. Thanks for the awesomeness, Percy

 

[Trouty]

Garrett's offense is predicated on exploiting the intermediate passing game... Romo does not throw deep that often either.

Garrett loves to get chunks of yards, yet avoid the lower percentage deep passing game.

Dak is doing what is being asked of him within this offense. He will get even more effective with experience.

Garrett's done a great job scheming for Dak (feels weird complementing Garrett )

Well, Linehan has. So i take my complement back... jk

 

[Dodger12]

Prescott is only 1 of 8 for 28 yards on 20+ yard targets.

Good stuff Percy. The long ball is something we need to see more of from Dak. With all the Wentz/Dak comparisons, that's the one area Wentz has been pretty good at. But I don't know if that's by design and the staff wants Dak to be more conservative with his throws.

 

[percyhoward]

Garrett's offense is predicated on exploiting the intermediate passing game... Romo does not throw deep that often either.

Dak's 8 deep attempts isn't a low number. Rodgers, Manning, Rivers, Newton, Ryan, and Wentz all have 7-9 attempts at 20+ yards.

 

[Dodger12]

Garrett's offense is predicated on exploiting the intermediate passing game... Romo does not throw deep that often either.

Romo always had a good deep ball, especially when TO was here. Even Laurent Robinson benefited going deep.

 

[Doomsday101]

Good stuff Percy. The long ball is something we need to see more of from Dak. With all the Wentz/Dak comparisons, that's the one area Wentz has been pretty good at. But I don't know if that's by design and the staff wants Dak to be more conservative with his throws.

I think we will see more down field passes just as the Cowboys did with Beasley last game. I think Beasley taking off on a go rout surprised the Bears after seeing film of nothing but inside slants by Cole.

 

[Trouty]

Dak's 8 deep attempts isn't a low number. Rodgers, Manning, Rivers, Newton, Ryan, and Wentz all have 7-9 attempts at 20+ yards.

Maybe it just feels that way (low amount of deep balls) since they're not hooking up, yet? Idk And the fact that we're used to seeing Romo drive the ball deep with repeated results.

 

[Hawkeye19]

Romo always had a good deep ball, especially when TO was here. Even Laurent Robinson benefited going deep.

Would have to see the numbers... Romo works the intermediate routes to perfection.

He has taken his deep shots for sure, but TO and Laurent R were years ago lol...

 

[Dodger12]

I think we will see more down field passes just as the Cowboys did with Beasley last game. I think Beasley taking off on a go rout surprised the Bears after seeing film of nothing but inside slants by Cole.

I hope that's the case or teams will figure us out pretty quick. They're already crowding the short part of the field and we need to keep opposing defenses honest.

 

[Dodger12]

Would have to see the numbers... Romo works the intermediate routes to perfection.

He has taken his deep shots for sure, but TO and Laurent R were years ago lol...

I think we saw him go deep a lot less with his back issues. But I always thought he had a great deep ball and his arm strength was surprising, at least to me. But that part of his game always stuck out to me.

 

[Hawkeye19]

Dak's 8 deep attempts isn't a low number. Rodgers, Manning, Rivers, Newton, Ryan, and Wentz all have 7-9 attempts at 20+ yards.

Interesting... Hopefully he is able to connect on a few more down the line. Would certainly open up the running game and play action more.

However-- his numbers at the intermediate level are awesome. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Let him do what he is comfortable with.

 

[Doomsday101]

I hope that's the case or teams will figure us out pretty quick. They're already crowding the short part of the field and we need to keep opposing defenses honest.

And yet we are still seeing a high percentage of completion. This offense has not had problems moving the ball heck we have only punted 9 times in 3 games. Dak just needs to continue making his reads and not try to force things. If the deep ball is there then take it but if not then he needs to go to his other reads.

 

[Hawkeye19]

I think we saw him go deep a lot less with his back issues. But I always thought he had a great deep ball and his arm strength was surprising, at least to me. But that part of his game always stuck out to me.

Yah... Now that you mention it, I too wonder if his back issues have a part to play in it.

May not even be due solely to physical limitations either... Deep throws require you to hold the ball longer. I wonder if they have been phasing them out in an attempt to cut down on the number of hits Romo takes?

 

[Denim Chicken]

Prescott is only 1 of 8 for 28 yards on 20+ yard targets.

So the sole completion was that catch by Beasley? How long was the pass on that 47 yarder that Williams fumbled?

 

[Dodger12]

And yet we are still seeing a high percentage of completion. This offense has not had problems moving the ball heck we have only punted 9 times in 3 games. Dak just needs to continue making his reads and not try to force things. If the deep ball is there then take it but if not then he needs to go to his other reads.

Don't get me wrong Dooms. I agree with your take. But I also see the risks in a rookie QB (or any QB for that matter) routinely sustaining long drives without any mistakes. The fact that Dak hasn't thrown an INT is incredible. I also think D's crowding the line because they don't fear the deep ball with catch up to us sooner or later. Again, maybe all this is by design and the design is working because Dak is not turning the ball over. But I don't think he can make a living on being a bus driver, especially with our D.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

If it works, go with it.... no need to throw the ball deep for no reason. The amazing thing is that pretty much every throw has been to a wide open player. I know that last year guys were not getting open consistently for the backups. I feel like coaching has gotten much better in that regard.

 

[DogFace]

Rodgers is a big surprise on that list -- Rodgers 6 of 17 81 yd 4.8 ypa 1 td 1 int 46.4

Is he having an early downfall? I've seen many, many fans in Packerland worrying about that, as weird as it is to say. His play has steadily declined since about week 4 of last season. He did have 4 TDs last week which is great, but his numbers (yds/ypa) are still down (his ypa was over 8 last week, to be fair, but only ~200yds). And this is with Nelson back. I personally think he lost confidence in himself due to terrible line play for a time being, and his ad lib style just wasn't working. His last game was very efficient, so most likely it's premature. But there's a lot of discussion going on about this very fact.

Dak third overall in YPA, and only .2 behind Eli! Love that nice 130.6 QB rating, too. Wentz's ypa is unreal. Thanks for the awesomeness, Percy

What's it called when a baseball picher thows out his arm? Dead arm or something? Maybe this has happened to Aaron.

 

[Trouty]

What's it called when a baseball picher thows out his arm? Dead arm or something? Maybe this has happened to Aaron.

Yeah, dead arm for pitchers. But with Rodgers it seems more like the yips, ala Tiger (tho, that's a bit drastic) or Chuck Knoblauch.

Like I've said, it's probly premature, but it is something to watch.