Prescott vs. Romo Playoffs

[Legend]

Romo never had the teams that Dak has had. Jerry was still 100% controlling the team back then doing trades for players like Roy Williams and the dude had a terrible offensive line for most of his years with 0 running game. Dak has had a great offensive line and running game almost every year he has been a QB. Tony was very much similar to Dak in that they are inconsistent, but when Romo was at his best he was better than Dak could ever be. It may turn out that Dak ends up being more consistent than Romo which may help him have more success, but from a talent perspective I think Romo has him there.

Dak never played on a Cowboys team with 13 pro bowlers like Romo did in 2007.

 

[Legend]

FWIW

2021 defense wasn't anywhere remotely near our worst D. They had a rough spell then righted the ship somewhat

• 7th in points allowed
• 18th in total yards allowed

And by the way
2013 defense...one of the many crap defenses in the Romo era (though not all were)

• 32nd in Total Defesne
• 26th in points allowed

You forgot about the Cowboys D in 2007

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html?group=D&cat=T&yr=2007&lg=NFL

 

[Legend]

These are the Dallas Cowboys defensive rankings for Romo and Dak:

Romo:

2006 20
2007 13
2008 20
2009 2
2010 31
2011 16
2012 24
2013 26
2014 15
2015 16

Dak:

2016 5
2017 13
2018 6
2019 11
2020 28 (Injured game 5, out for the rest of the season)
2021 7
2022 6

Highest for Tony was 2. Worst was 31.
Highest for Dak was 5. Worst was 28.

Dak has consistently had higher ranked defenses than Tony ever had. Tony never had a SB worthy level defense except for the 2009 season. Even his best chance in 2014 it was middle of the pack. No wonder it couldn't stop an injured Rogers.

The number 2 ranked defense was the one that gave up 34 points (4 TDs by the old man Favre) to Minnesota in the divisional playoff game. The same game where Tony was sacked six times and hurried at least a dozen. One of the headlines after the game was "Tony Romo had no chance against the Vikings' pass rush."

The 2007 D should be in the top 10

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html?group=D&cat=T&yr=2007&lg=NFL

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

100% agree with you. If you remember in 2014, Romo was effectively told to stop changing the plays and stick to the script. That was the year Murray had the career rushing year. Romo played amazing that year, unfortunately they lost in GB.

Yep. We just needed Romo to play above his head and I don't think he ever got the chance to in the post season.

 

[Legend]

I always love it when some fans cherry pick certain seasons or stats to disparage Romo as to why they didn't have better success. Several teams have great years that don't translate to playoff success or winning a Super Bowl. By your logic, Steve Young sucks because the 49ers who had great teams in 1992, 1993 and 1995 didn't make the Super Bowl.

You have to take advantage of your opportunities because they will more than likely not be many.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

My mistake, thanks. That's what is weird that it's not ranked among the worst, it was plain awful!

Yeah i'm not buying that ranking if they weren't the worst. I think they generated turnovers pretty well but they couldn't stop the run or the pass. It was turnover or touchdown. Couldn't get off the field. I never felt so hopeless watching a team play.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You have to take advantage of your opportunities because they will more than likely not be many.

Finding that out the hard way. I remember when Romo first came into the game for us....I thought we had 10 years of competing.....wasn't even half of that. And then in 2016 with Dak and Zeke....we're making the playoffs at a better rate but not nearly as much as I thought. You make the playoffs make it count.

Falcons and Panthers haven't made the SB since. You get a shot it might be your last.

 

[Legend]

You don't really think those guys were all Pro Bowlers do you.
Come on.
That was back when the fans voted them in and the voting was done mid season.
Dallas took off smoking early in the year and were all the rave.
It was a popularity contest and a joke

That WAS a great team though. It was also Romo's 1st full years as a starter. I'm sure he'd have liked to have those guys 5 years later.

Dak’s rookie year was similar. 13-3 and then one and done during the divisional round.

 

[nhcowboysfan]

Well what great years did Romo have if you are tryin to discount 2007 and 2014? Those were considered the best two years of his career.

Romo had several good years but your definition seems to be limited to the two playoff games where they lost in the division round, both of which were not lost by Romo, but you seem to think otherwise.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Romo had several good years but your definition seems to be limited to the two playoff games where they lost in the division round, both of which were not lost by Romo, but you seem to think otherwise.

Well I use to agree that it wasn't Romo's fault. But i'm starting to feel otherwise. Its not just Dak's last game, its Purdy's, its Daniel Jones's......when the playoffs come around you need to take it up a notch. Come you sit here and say Romo had a post season where he was better than he was in the regular season? Where he's just not determined to lose? I won't say those losses are all his fault but he surely did nothing to take those games over and that's probably why he sits here ringless.

 

[Legend]

Romo had several good years but your definition seems to be limited to the two playoff games where they lost in the division round, both of which were not lost by Romo, but you seem to think

Finding that out the hard way. I remember when Romo first came into the game for us....I thought we had 10 years of competing.....wasn't even half of that. And then in 2016 with Dak and Zeke....we're making the playoffs at a better rate but not nearly as much as I thought. You make the playoffs make it count.

Falcons and Panthers haven't made the SB since. You get a shot it might be your last.

The same can be said of the 1990s Cowboys.

After the 1992 and 1993 seasons it seemed the Cowboys could continue to win Super Bowls on a consistent basis. 3 SBs in 4 years and 0 since for almost the last 30 years.

 

[nhcowboysfan]

Keep one thing in mind about Romo. His head coaches for most of his career were Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett. Wade was never offered another head coaching opportunity after Dallas; and as for Jason Garrett - he's working as an analyst for NBC - enough said.

 

[Gator88]

Sorry but its true, he was told to stop freelancing as much as he had in the past. They focused the offense around Murray, remember 1800 yards, 400+ carries.
Are we thinking about the same season? Yes Romo was great that year, because he was under a bit of control.
It's no shame in saying that. Romo was a very good player for us, more eye popping plays than Dak even to this day.
For some reason or another it never translated to playoff success.
2007, 2009, 2014. Three outstanding opportunities.

You can repeat it as much as you want, but that doesn't make it true. You might be mistaking the fact that when they brought in Linehan that year, they finally allowed Romo input to the offensive gameplan so that it was more effective.

 

[SultanOfSix]

The 2007 D should be in the top 10

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html?group=D&cat=T&yr=2007&lg=NFL

I got the stats from https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ and I used the Team Defense stats.

 

[eromeopolk]

Dak has tied Romo's playoff wins in half the number of years. Romo never advanced beyond the division around. If Dak can get one more playoff win and advance to the NFC championship game, the Prescott-Romo debate can be put to bed forever.

Spoken like a true Arlington Jonesboys fan. At the prom, Jonesboys fans would settle for a dance with their sister.

Have you ever heard of Danny White. Three NFC Championship game appearances in a row. Until Dak takes a team to 3 NFC Championship games in a row, he is no better than that other fake Jerry Jones Country Club QB cowboys legend Romo. They can't carry Danny Whites jock strap.

 

[starman22]

This debate should have been put to bed when we (finally) changed head coaches. Both of the QB's were strapped with Garrett for years. Now that the coaches have been changed, there is no more fair comparison.

 

[nhcowboysfan]

Well I use to agree that it wasn't Romo's fault. But i'm starting to feel otherwise. Its not just Dak's last game, its Purdy's, its Daniel Jones's......when the playoffs come around you need to take it up a notch. Come you sit here and say Romo had a post season where he was better than he was in the regular season? Where he's just not determined to lose? I won't say those losses are all his fault but he surely did nothing to take those games over and that's probably why he sits here ringless.

I contend that if Romo played for teams that were more complete like the Patriots with Belichek, the Ravens with Harbaugh, and even the Saints with Payton, he would have won a Super Bowl if not more than one. His two coaches were Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett. Neither has had a head coaching opportunity since leaving Dallas. Having said that, my biggest fault with Romo was his lack of fire - not with regards to his competitiveness, but the manner in which he interacted with his teammates. I never saw him get into the grill of his teammates and shout at them to step up - unlike a Brady, Peyton, or Rodgers. He was too nice of a guy and as the old phrase rings true: "Nice guys finish last."

 

[dckid]

You can repeat it as much as you want, but that doesn't make it true. You might be mistaking the fact that when they brought in Linehan that year, they finally allowed Romo input to the offensive gameplan so that it was more effective.

Cool man I am ok with us having different opinions.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Well I use to agree that it wasn't Romo's fault. But i'm starting to feel otherwise. Its not just Dak's last game, its Purdy's, its Daniel Jones's......when the playoffs come around you need to take it up a notch. Come you sit here and say Romo had a post season where he was better than he was in the regular season? Where he's just not determined to lose? I won't say those losses are all his fault but he surely did nothing to take those games over and that's probably why he sits here ringless.

You are right about that. 2007 most disappointed Cowboy team ever. Romo didn't elevate his game. He was mediocre.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I contend that if Romo played for teams that were more complete like the Patriots with Belichek, the Ravens with Harbaugh, and even the Saints with Payton, he would have won a Super Bowl if not more than one. His two coaches were Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett. Neither has had a head coaching opportunity since leaving Dallas. Having said that, my biggest fault with Romo was his lack of fire - not with regards to his competitiveness, but the manner in which he interacted with his teammates. I never saw him get into the grill of his teammates and shout at them to step up - unlike a Brady, Peyton, or Rodgers. He was too nice of a guy and as the old phrase rings true: "Nice guys finish last."

I mean you can say that literally about everyone not named Brady lol. If Aaron Rodgers had Bellicheat he may have had a few more rings. Same goes for Phillip Rivers.....Dak had Garrett early in his career...I don't recall anyone hyping up Mike McCarthy prior to this year.