Prescott weapons vs the rest of the NFC East

CATCH17

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we've been round and round on this many times Catch. There is no point in showing you Dak V Romo stats in the first 2 years of their career. Under the same offensive scheme and with about the same number of pro-bowlers on the team in their first 2 years. In fact Romo-lead teams in 2007 and 08 had more pro-bowlers, Romo was THAT good :rolleyes:

Dak is better early on in his career then Romo was. Nobody can deny that.

But Romo is a more talented passer then Dak. Romo was a playmaker at his position and Dak is a Alex Smith bus driver type with some upside.
 

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did we give Prescott enough weapons? We are set at RB but looking at the WR's and TE's on paper we went from middle of the pack to the bottom of the deck in the NFL. With Terrance Williams coming off injury and most likely suspended for driving drunk and fleeing the scene. We really need to get a veteran TE who actually showed something in the NFL. Right now we are putting a big burden on often injured guys and a low round rookie. When you have lesser talented players u need to have a good scheme. Not sure we have a guy on the offensive coaching staff that can scheme up a good offense for us to run. We might be a very very run heavy team. Don't let teams get up on us or we might not have the firepower to catch up.
I look at it as we lost Dez and Witten way past their prime. We will miss Witten's leadership more than anything. Dez never clicked with Dak and Dak has played extremely better without Dez. Now we have Hurns, Gallup, Shultz and Tavon added which IMO keeps us in the middle of the pack as you say. Add in more passes to Zeke and getting Sauce back on track and I personally believe by season's end we would have forgotten that we lost 2 Cowboys legend. It's a new era.
 

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Dak is better early on in his career then Romo was. Nobody can deny that.

But Romo is a more talented passer then Dak. Romo was a playmaker at his position and Dak is a Alex Smith bus driver type with some upside.
Romo was not asked to play his first 2 seasons. The advantage of learning the NFL game from the sideline is huge. I would compare Dak to a young Ben who was also forced to play early in his career but more of a facilitator than playmaker. Although I think Dak is more of a playmaker than Ben was early in his career.
 

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I look at it as we lost Dez and Witten way past their prime. We will miss Witten's leadership more than anything. Dez never clicked with Dak and Dak has played extremely better without Dez. Now we have Hurns, Gallup, Shultz and Tavon added which IMO keeps us in the middle of the pack as you say. Add in more passes to Zeke and getting Sauce back on track and I personally believe by season's end we would have forgotten that we lost 2 Cowboys legend. It's a new era.
Yup. This receiving corps could be really outstanding, and it could be really mediocre. The signs and talent are actually there to make it the best receiving corps we've had in years, but there is absolutely no way to tell for sure until play starts. Preseason games will be very interesting to watch this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I don't post very often, but what I see of zeke's body worries me immensely



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lol nfce fans hate Zeke
 

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lol nfce fans hate Zeke
OMG, someone thought that was real?

C'moooooooooon people. Don't be stoooopid.
 

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RB's they're good but it remains to be seen if they have the best in the division as they have the last two seasons. WR's is an unknown as there are too many new players and Williams could be gone. TE's, the Cowboys are way behind the East teams and you could make a case that the other East teams have 3 of the top 10 or even top 5 TE's in the league. Ertz, Ingram and Reed are excellent TE's and would be better than ours had Witten not retired. However, the Cowboys offense was not set up for a dynamic TE as a playmaker like the other three are.

If that OL can keep them off Manning, that is going to be a ballbuster offense to even slow down and they may have the new set of triplets at RB, WR and TE.

The problem that the Cowboys were presented with was too many key elements to address at LB and OL to go high on a WR and there wasn't one really worth a 1st. They did what they could at WR with two players added and a good looking prospect in the 3rd.

They couldn't address everything and I am content they did what they could. My primary concern is not the weapons for the QB but the QB himself. And for the OC to utilize the weapons that he does have.

CouchCoach...I'm actually looking forward to what evolves in the current group of tight ends. Blocking and receiving are being stressed, but there is some good core talent from the five who will be at camp.
 

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Yup. This receiving corps could be really outstanding, and it could be really mediocre. The signs and talent are actually there to make it the best receiving corps we've had in years, but there is absolutely no way to tell for sure until play starts. Preseason games will be very interesting to watch this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed. It's the unknown that makes it exciting at this point. Can't wait for camp and putting on the pads to see what these guys can do against a Kris Richard led back seven.
 

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Most QBs look much worse than Dak when they have a LT as bad as Dak did the 2nd half of the season.

Dak doesnt really rely on Zeke all that much, but going from an elite LT to an abomination at LT really hurts all QBs. Then there was no gameplan adjustments going from Smith to Bell/Green, so the coaching staff failed. Dak wasnt the problem.
You are correct in your assessment, add in Zeke missing six games to compound the problem. Less we forget, as many on here seem to do, Dak was a second year QB last year. I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong, but what second year QB had success last year? with their LT and top RB out for a extended period of time.
 

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We have no idea what we have in our WR's except Bease and T Will. All we're doing is taking Herns and Thompson and juxtaposing their careers to date on what they will be here. If Herns can stay healthy, he'll make us forget all about senor Dez. Thompson at the very least is the equal of Butler, the guy he replaced and Butler was never used enough. We have a new WR coach, maybe that makes some difference

I read the 1st page only. Sooo much drama. "We might get 4-5 wins" . . . really???

I agree NCN. None of these folks throwing up their hands and crying "Ohhh, woe are we" has any frikken idea what our passing game will be like. "Bottom 5 at WR and TE in the League" . . . and this assessment WITHOUT even see a performance. I don't know but I think Miralax could help these poor criers in despair.

Let this team develop. If by game 5-6 we still look terrible then y'all can just let 'er rip on the coaches, players, scheme, game planning, Jerrah, Stephen, JG, and every other thing every one of y'all like to dramatize and bi*ch and moan about.

Sheesh !

I'm kinda excited and can't wait for the season to start. It's almost like Christmas in September for me.
 

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You are correct in your assessment, add in Zeke missing six games to compound the problem. Less we forget, as many on here seem to do, Dak was a second year QB last year. I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong, but what second year QB had success last year? with their LT and top RB out for a extended period of time.
So, as I said, he needs an all pro LT, pro bowl RB and several of the best offensive linemen in the game to succeed?

I don’t buy the whole Zeke suspension excuse either. We lost plenty of games with him and Morris was more than serviceable in his absence. Obviously Zeke is better than Morris but if Dak can’t compete without Zeke then we better starting looking at another QB because RB’s like Zeke won’t be around for the entirety of Dak’s career and Zeke will have a hard time maintaining such high production as he gets older and god forbid we field a an O line that isn’t top 5, then what?

I can hear the excuses now. “How is Zeke supposed to get over 1,000 yards without 3 pro bowlers on the O line”? “How exactly is Dak supposed to complete a pass without Zeke being so productive because he’s not the threat he once was”? Next year it will be “We never had a true #1 WR”.

I’ve said it before, Dak and Zeke were and are extremely lucky to have this O line their first few years in the NFL. If they played behind the Giants O line, Zeke probably would have barely broke 1K yards his rookie season and Dak would probably already be riding the pine. If they can’t produce because one or two players are missing then perhaps some people should stop making excuses.
 

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We have a top 3 O line and top 3 RB, that’s much more than most QB’s have. Just look at the teams with a stud WR and/or RB’s but no O line. I don’t think our situation is as bad as you make it seem.

On the other hand, if we need a top O line and RB for the rest of Dak’s career in order for him to be successful then that’s concerning. Most QB’s don’t have that luxury and they don’t fall apart like Dak did mid way through last season.

Most are not 2nd year 4th round picks .......see the way that works. Some Cowboy fans :banghead::banghead::banghead:
 

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Most are not 2nd year 4th round picks .......see the way that works. Some Cowboy fans :banghead::banghead::banghead:
Yeah, I do, and I actually like Dak and haven’t thrown in the towel on him like a lot of people. All I’m saying is if the second half of last season was any indication of how he will continue to play if under less than ideal circumstances then we’re in trouble.

It’s also why I never annoinyed him the next Brett Favre after his first season as well. The guy couldn’t have landed in a better position his rookie year.
 

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The problem as I see it is most are assuming things will work out positively regardless. You can’t make that assumption. There simply too many moving parts. New techniques being taught new schemes being learned. Especially where the OL is concerned. Is 6 months enough to not only learn a new way of doing things but unlearn the old way?
In the heat of battle human nature saids players revert back to what’s most comfortable. The preseason may not tell the story as teams don’t game plan. But I know that if you can’t throw the ball it becomes harder to run it. So we’ll see. I personally don’t think enough was done defensively. That’s where I think you’ll see the teams failure. But that’s just my two cents...
 
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This is going to be a very good offense. I have no doubt Gallup, Hurns, Beasley, Elliott and Austin will do a lot of damage in the passing game. The scheme just got much better. Before it was Witten, Dez, Witten, Beasley, Witten, Dez, Witten Williams, Beasley, Beasley, Dez, Witten. lol rinse and repeat. Mostly two players dominating receptions will be gone.. and it couldn't happen soon enough. Right now the only player among RBs TEs and WRs dominating touches is Elliott. It's a new day.. finally.
 
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