Prescott's 15+ yard targets when tied or trailing

[Thetriplets22]

Have you seen all of Romo's horrible games? What's your point?

My point is I don't care how he did against trash teams. If he can't perform against our division rival and we lose agajn to him then that's a problem. How many bad games did Romo had when he made second team all pro?

 

[SDCowboy]

My point is I don't care how he did against trash teams. If he can't perform against our division rival and we lose agajn to him then that's a problem. How many bad games did Romo had when he made second team all pro?

 

[Thetriplets22]

When did Romo throw 37 times for 165 yards and two interceptions

 

[65fastback2plus2]

cute stats, but missing a ton of info to tell you anything really.

 

[sean10mm]

My point is I don't care how he did against trash teams. If he can't perform against our division rival and we lose agajn to him then that's a problem. How many bad games did Romo had when he made second team all pro?

49ers, Commanders, and Eagles. He threw 5 picks in those 3 games and the team only scored 17, 17 and 10 points.

Dak threw 4 picks the entire 2016 season.

 

[SDCowboy]

When did Romo throw 37 times for 165 yards and two interceptions

When was Romo ever remotely close to this good his (Romo's) rookie season? This season Dak was as good as Romo ever was, outside his 2014 season. Dak threw for as many, or fewer INT's the entire season as Romo would sometimes throw in a single game. By your bizarre logic, does that make Romo suck?

Seriously, the quest for some here to try and diminish what Dak has done his rookie season, to try and build up Romo (who doesn't need building up), has reached absurd levels. Being excited about Dak, and recognizing how good he is, isn't a slight to Romo nor what he's done for this team.

 

[sean10mm]

Romo threw 5 picks in a game on two separate occasions.

Romo threw 4 picks against the Giants in one game.

Romo threw 3 interceptions in games against division rivals 5 times.

Again, for reference, Dak had 4 picks in all of 2016, less than half as many as Romo had in 2014.

 

[sean10mm]

My point is I don't care how he did against trash teams.

We know how he did against the Packers, Steelers and Ravens: 3-0, 8 touchdowns, 1 interception, lowest completion % of 67%, lowest passer rating 117.4, over 300 yards twice.

 

[noshame]

Paging fire marshal EROD.

LOL

 

[Future]

Dak seems to be excellent throwing a deep ball but he doesn't do it that frequently because he evidently places a higher priority on ball protection. I'm looking forward to watching him in the playoffs.

Agreed, but I think a lot of that comes from simply not understanding which shots you can and can take - as in Dez 1 on 1 doesn't necessarily have to be open.

The downfield passing game will come with more experience.

 

[noshame]

Prescott and Brady finished the season tied as the highest-rated passers on throws of 15+ yards in the air. Contrary to what you might think, it had little to do with having the lead most of the time -- at least in Dak's case. In a comparison of the 32 QB with the most attempts of 15+ yards in the air when tied or trailing in the game, these were the top passers:

Well, Ill be darned.

 

[sean10mm]

Fans have unrealistic expectations about QBs, to the point I don't think they even know what "ordinary" elite QB play looks like. Anything short of 2004 Peyton Manning/2007 Brady endless rocketball touchdowns and they want to cut ties and burn everything down... so they can go back to starting the guy they spent the last 8 years trashing because HE wasn't absolutely perfect all the time!

Maybe Dak could bust out of nowhere, sure. Anything is possible. But if you can't enjoy what he's been doing as a rookie, then you're never going to enjoy 99% of the football played by any team, because what you want isn't a real thing. You want video game dominance that doesn't exist outside the odd fluke year... most of which don't even end in Super Bowl wins, funnily enough.

The Cowboys don't need a perfect QB. They need a good fit for what they, specifically, need their QB to do. If you're trying to party like it's 1995 you don't particularly need (or even want, necessarily) the next Favre, you want the next Aikman. If you care more about style points and volume stats than team wins, then the team Garrett is trying to build will never make you happy, because it's clearly not how they're going about this.

 

[Thetriplets22]

When was Romo ever remotely close to this good his (Romo's) rookie season? This season Dak was as good as Romo ever was, outside his 2014 season. Dak threw for as many, or fewer INT's the entire season as Romo would sometimes throw in a single game. By your bizarre logic, does that make Romo suck?

Seriously, the quest for some here to try and diminish what Dak has done his rookie season, to try and build up Romo (who doesn't need building up), has reached absurd levels. Being excited about Dak, and recognizing how good he is, isn't a slight to Romo nor what he's done for this team.

Dude we need to win a Super bowl this year and a rookie QB isn't the answer. Look at how much better Romo is since he's been a rookie If we are going to beat NYG/GB, Atlanta then New England it won't be with a rookie

 

[sean10mm]

Dude we need to win a Super bowl this year and a rookie QB isn't the answer. Look at how much better Romo is since he's been a rookie If we are going to beat NYG/GB, Atlanta then New England it won't be with a rookie

You don't want Romo, you want an imaginary version of Romo who never had a bad game in 2014 (when he had several) and who is the sure path to a Super Bowl (when he never made a deep playoff run even on strong teams in 2007, 2009 and 2014) and who is likely to stay healthy (when he's not), AND who never lost in the NFCE (when he did, several times, sometimes badly.)

 

[pansophy]

Dude we need to win a Super bowl this year and a rookie QB isn't the answer. Look at how much better Romo is since he's been a rookie If we are going to beat NYG/GB, Atlanta then New England it won't be with a rookie

I am worried Dak will not quite have enough to get us over the finish line, much like Big Ben didn't his rookie season.

But I think it's more likely that the defense lets us down than the offense. Dak is playing more than good enough to win, especially if they continue to have Dak throw from under center without play action.

 

[erod]

Paging fire marshal EROD.

So now a 15-yard pass is considered a deep ball? LOL

Dak does not feel comfortable throwing the ball downfield from the pocket, and he doesn't see the deep middle from there at all. If he does go deep from the pocket, it's on go routes down the sideline or an occasional in route. Otherwise, he only likes to go downfield when he rolls out. He doesn't have the arm strength for a deep out.

Silly stats like this don't show that.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Romo threw 5 picks in a game on two separate occasions.

Romo threw 4 picks against the Giants in one game.

Romo threw 3 interceptions in games against division rivals 5 times.

Again, for reference, Dak had 4 picks in all of 2016, less than half as many as Romo had in 2014.

All interceptions aren't equally bad. Sometimes you have to push the issue. Sometimes things happen. And Romo always operated a more aggressive game plan by coaches than anything Prescott has been asked to run.

Oh and Romo never operated with a team this good. Ever.

I imagine Daks rookie season looks a lot different if he's brought into the 2nd half of a game in 2006 don't you?

Acknowledging these things doesn't take away from understanding that Dak had the greatest rookie qb season of all time. You can understand both things and not be insulting Dak or Romo.

 

[sean10mm]

All interceptions aren't equally bad. Sometimes you have to push the issue. Sometimes things happen. And Romo always operated a more aggressive game plan by coaches than anything Prescott has been asked to run.

Oh and Romo never operated with a team this good. Ever.

I imagine Daks rookie season looks a lot different if he's brought into the 2nd half of a game in 2006 don't you?

Acknowledging these things doesn't take away from understanding that Dak had the greatest rookie qb season of all time. You can understand both things and not be insulting Dak or Romo.

I actually liked Romo a lot as QB, but people are posting like he's some Canton-bound angel of football that will guarantee world titles without fault, which is very silly. We literally had a guy go "WHEN DID ROMO EVER HAVE A BAD GAME?!" for crying out loud.

 

[BrassCowboy]

When was Romo ever remotely close to this good his (Romo's) rookie season? This season Dak was as good as Romo ever was, outside his 2014 season. Dak threw for as many, or fewer INT's the entire season as Romo would sometimes throw in a single game. By your bizarre logic, does that make Romo suck?

Seriously, the quest for some here to try and diminish what Dak has done his rookie season, to try and build up Romo (who doesn't need building up), has reached absurd levels. Being excited about Dak, and recognizing how good he is, isn't a slight to Romo nor what he's done for this team.

And it is sad to say you are right, too many fans I notice on here feel the need to downplay or just flat out hate on Dak to lift up Romo.
Like you said, Romo don't need lifted up. We all respect and value his talents and for what he has done for this team. It is only the onset of Dak at the exact right moment came on and earned the right to be starting for this team. Romo has some issues of concern that make Dak an earlier starter than expected, and it has less to do with what Romo can do on the field and more to factors that are out of his control being his age and ability to stay healthy.

No need to hate, there is enough of that coming from fans of other teams out there.

 

[Crown Royal]

Right, I wouldn't call 15 yards "deep," but most people don't realize just how few passes are thrown even that far. PFR has to make the cutoff somewhere, and even at 15 yards, that still leaves 82.2% of all passes classified as "short" passes.

Thanks for doing this. I consider 10-19 yards an "intermediate pass," which I think Dak has shown he is very good at. Interestingly enough, I thought it was also Romo's best pass his first couple of years. Typically, living in this range is where I feel QBs who can make a living as a starter need to live, and Dak checks that box very well.