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MONT17;2566475 said:
I guess we can try to bring jujo back? TOs problem is that he is the leader of this team because Romo is a girl...TO is not a very good leader!

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Bruh, you dont know how correct you are. He is not a good leader (mainly because of his past). He will never be in a position to be a vocal leader, but he is forced into that position because no one else will speak/step up.

Ellis-no one repects him he cries every summer
WARE-great player but too nice of a personality
TO-past will for haunt him
ROMO-too blaze' blaze'
Bradie-pretty good but not good enough
Newman-not in his personality
Barber-too quiet
Ratliff-nicer than ware

no one else is good enough to take on the role.
 

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Im in favor of a more ball control offense if you have a coaching staff that can coach that offense and an offensive line that can support such a system. The cowboys would still have to beef up their offensive line a little bit as they hadn't shown this year they could consistentely run it when they wanted to.

With or without TO, The cowboys need to make the game easier on Romo as his penchant for turnovers isn't not gonna magically go away.
 

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5Countem5;2566517 said:
Don't we all.

You guarantee me that and I would go cut TO myself...

You see.. That's the thing. Those 8/10/12 yard runs come because TO is sucking up not only the corner but also a safety. The other safety has to play center field basically. You downgrade our WR corps and defenses will re-adjust to place 8 in the box 90% of the time and dare us to run on it. Guaranteed.
 

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I'd worry about depth. As we've seen in the past, when TO was injured our receiving corp gets no respect. Same thing would happen if Roy gets hurt.
 

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Hostile;2566513 said:
The difference here is that McNabb did stab TO in the back whereas Tony has not.

Huh? When did that happen? And if it did, was it while TO was still an Eagle? All I remember is that TO publicly stated that he'd rather catch passes from Favre than McNabb, which ignited a firestorm. If that's not backstabbing, I don't know what is. And if McNabb replied in any way, well, that's just good ol' self-defense.
 

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I'm very confident in Roy Williams abilities but I would like to leave nothing at risk and keep TO just in case Roy Williams tanks it this offseason and doesn't get his game sured up.
 

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Bleu Star;2566540 said:
You see.. That's the thing. Those 8/10/12 yard runs come because TO is sucking up not only the corner but also a safety. The other safety has to play center field basically. You downgrade our WR corps and defenses will re-adjust to place 8 in the box 90% of the time and dare us to run on it. Guaranteed.

That's a good point.

I would say that if we were to cut TO, I'd want to replace him with another WR - a S Moss "type" or even a D Branch type. Someone who can stretch the field a bit and give defenses a different look once in awhile in terms of how to best cover him.

I guess more practically, a real HC could tell TO how we're going to run the offense this year and his role in the offense. If he didn't want to do it, we could part ways.

And If TO accepted his role in the new offense, the HC wouldn't want to hear any complaints.

But I don't know if that is going to happen either.
 

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bbgun;2566553 said:
Huh? When did that happen? And if it did, was it while TO was still an Eagle? All I remember is that TO publicly stated that he'd rather catch passes from Favre than McNabb, which ignited a firestorm. If that's not backstabbing, I don't know what is. And if McNabb replied in any way, well, that's just good ol' self-defense.
You think there wasn't friction between McNabb and Owens? Who caused it is irrelevant to me. All I'm saying is that there isn't the same symbiosis between him and Tony.
 

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Hostile;2566571 said:
You think there wasn't friction between McNabb and Owens? Who caused it is irrelevant to me. All I'm saying is that there isn't the same symbiosis between him and Tony.

Friction and controversy have always followed Owens, but where's the evidence that McNabb "backstabbed" him, either publicly or privately? Or did anything close to what TO did to him? I don't see it, and until I do, McNabb is the victim.
 

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Hostile;2566211 said:
Actually, I want to mimic the 90's Cowboys who rode Emmitt Smith to 3 titles by wearing teams down. The kind of coaching Jason Garrett learned under guys like Zampese and Norv. Back to his true roots.

It's great to have a quick strike Offense, but I think we would be a better team by beating the other teams up. Guys like Flo and BIGG are maulers. Gurode is too. Holland could be. Columbo is a mauler who likes to be an enforcer. Give them what they need, a reason to beat the hell out of someone.
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Hostile;2566181 said:
I would definitely get rid of Owens...I love to pound the other team to death.
I realize you're not saying Owens has to be gone for the offense to become more balanced. You just want Owens gone for chemistry reasons, and with the 3 RB's and Bennett and Austin around, you think that makes Owens expendable. Or makes him not worth the trouble he's been. I think that as long as we win, Owens isn't a problem anyway. But what I read in most of your post was less about Owens than it was about the offense making the best use of all its weapons--and that I agree with completely. Jerry's original plan to build the offense around Romo and the intermiediate-to-deep passing game is due for some serious revisions.

The thing is, we don't have to imagine this offense without Owens. We have seen this offense without Owens, because he was effectively taken away in several games. Whether TO is back or not, this team will still find itself in positions where it will have to rely on some other player or some other philosophy to win games. This is the challenge for Romo and whoever the OC happens to be.

With no Owens for defenses to worry about, you could even make a case that the challenge would be greater.
 

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Hostile;2566484 said:
That is a big plus that I meant to mention and did not.

I will be honest, the only thing I would really like about TO being here in 2009 is that Roy would see how hard he works and might follow suit. As I said earlier, if he can shut his mouth and be on board with this team winning I'd be okay with keeping him.

I don't think TO is a bad person. In fact I think he is brutally honest. The problem is the spins and theories that arise from him being brutally honest and how they come back to the team and divide it and take them away from their jobs.

Truth be told...I'd be thrilled if every player on this team quit talking to the media and the coaches other than "coach speak." No Hard Knocks. I'd even like it if Jerry shut up. There is too much chance for boomerang innuendos and conspiracy theories.

Sure, much of his trouble with the Eagles was that the Eagles over-reacted to him.

I don't think he's bad either, but he does bring some problems to the table. He lacks tact and often he's not a trooper when things aren't going his way.

... if a reporter asks you if your wife's bottom is abnormally large, you don't say "yes," even if it is. You just don't. Nothing good will come from it, and something bad probably will. Owens lacks tact and bad things often come from it.

And Owens becomes a distraction (too much moodiness) when he decides that he isn't getting enough balls thrown to him. -- There are plenty of guys on the team who could complain ... Felix Jones when he wasn't getting his carries, Leonard Davis when the run play is called to the other side of the line, Witten when he's open, and so on. But that complaining isn't productive or helpful. It is just distracting. (and the last thing this Cowboys team needs is more distractions).
 

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bbgun;2566587 said:
Friction and controversy have always followed Owens, but where's the evidence that McNabb "backstabbed" him, either publicly or privately? Or did anything close to what TO did to him? I don't see it, and until I do, McNabb is the victim.
They backstabbed each other.

McNabb is more victim than Owens. No argument.
 

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Hostile;2566594 said:
They backstabbed each other.

McNabb is more victim than Owens. No argument.

Because, as we learned in kindergarten, words can hurt!


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Rampage;2566392 said:
Just look at the current playoff teams.
Tenn - run team
Baltimore - run team
Pitt - run team
SD - i'd say about even(will probably get eliminated tommorrow go chargers! go!)
NYG- run team
Philly - pass team(will probably get elinated tommorrow though i think they might win)
Carolina - run team
Arizona - pass team (that will probably get elininated tommorrow)
that's 5 running teams 2 passing teams and 1 i'd call even but slightly lean towards passing(chargers). coincidence?
Obviously it's not a coincidence, and there are some pretty decent defenses there too. And it isn't so much that AZ and Philly are exceptions, because remember, Philly ran more than we did this season. And both the Eagles' and Cards' passing attacks are HEAVILY based on yards after catch. It's basically ball control using the pass instead of the run.

They're all ball control teams.
 

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Hostile;2566594 said:
They backstabbed each other.

McNabb is more victim than Owens. No argument.

TO threw his QB under the bus, who proceeded to defend himself in a classy manner. McNabb "backstabbed" no one.
 

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bbgun;2566604 said:
TO threw his QB under the bus, who proceeded to defend himself in a classy manner. McNabb "backstabbed" no one.
If you say so. I don't think he was exactly classy about any of it and I like McNabb and am not a fan of Owens.
 

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I remember when TO went out with injury last year and OMG. I don't mind releasing TO, but I'll keep repeating this all thru the off-season. If TO is gone, same result.

Our problems are not TO. Better start with the QB first and work your way down from there. And if you think Witten is going to be successful when the defense can "T" off on him, good luck.

If TO is gone, we'd better replace him quickly, along with the offensive line and Romo's decision making.
 
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