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Clove;2566614 said:
Our problems are not TO. Better start with the QB first and work your way down from there.
That's getting straight to the point, although I'd start higher than that.

And nobody ever accused me of being a TO apologist.
 

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percyhoward;2566630 said:
That's getting straight to the point, although I'd start higher than that.

And nobody ever accused me of being a TO apologist.
I'd start with Jerry, you're right.

I love this guy but he has to stop messing with things he's not good at. Yes he's done it for 19 years or so, but not very good at it after Jimma.

Wade needs to stop letting the Prison police themselves, or demote himself to defensive coordinator.

Romo - needs to work on Accuracy, and his impulse to just fling it up, and for goodness sake, hold on to the ball when you're sacked.

TO - needs to stop whining about the play-calling and so forth. Just STHU and play ball, let Jerry fire the play-caller if he's not doing his job.

Witten - needs to continue doing what he does.

Crayton - needs to keep doing what he does. We all know his limitations, he can't do anything about that, but he does catch the ball, and fights for first downs. He also talks trash in the media, I don't care about that, it's actually fun.

Austin - needs to step up and start demanding respect from the defense. He needs to go and hang out with Romo, buddy up and tell Romo he can trust him to throw him the ball.

Flozell - needs legitimate competition.
Kosier - is what he is.
Bigg - doing a great job.
Gurode - needs competition, and possibly a move to Guard like another poster suggested.
Colombo - has to work on speed rushers - He also needs some competition.

Crickett - he is what he is
Bennett - needs to take a huge leap forward his second year..

Roy Williams - Needs to start pushing TO out of the number 1 position like TO did to Jerry Rice years ago.

EDIT: TO should never do another interview again.
 

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I agree with Clove.

It's not all TO.

You release him, you release 1,000 yards and 10 TD's. I don't see the rest of the receiving corps filling the breech.

And I don't see a ball-control offense being a cure-all for this offense.

You have a better than piss-poor Proctor at LG and you'd see the same offense as you did in '07-- maybe even better.

The big problem with this offense was as Vela pointed out in training camp-- no depth at the offensive line.

For me, I'm not interested in trying to win ball games 16 to 14 with a last minute field-goal.

The offense in '07 was exciting and fun to watch-- gimmee more of the same.
 

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Clove;2566646 said:
EDIT: TO should never do another interview again.
All players must make themselves available for post-game interviews and at least once during the week for the press. In regards to Owens "shutting up", there are really only two guidelines which he should follow:
  • He shouldn't interject his feelings, etc., into his NFL-mandated interviews. Concentrate on play-by-play Q&As only, nothing more. If necessary, some of the questions posed to him during one of these interviews could be answered with a standard, "Next question" response, which he should be commended for enacting at times.
  • Everything else outside of what's required by the league for its players to interact with the media shouldn't be attempted, approached or considered (i.e. Deion Sanders one-on-one type interviews).
We can all hope that he will shut up, but we must all be realistic (myself included) what that effort would entail. These are two goals which are completely doable by anyone. However, this is Terrell Owens. <end comment>

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Hostile;2566612 said:
If you say so. I don't think he was exactly classy about any of it and I like McNabb and am not a fan of Owens.

Indeed he was not.
 

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Bleu Star;2566670 said:
Indeed he was not.

Says TO's biggest shill. Or does that honor go to Jordan? Maybe you two can duke it out. Comparing TO to McNabb is a moral obscenity. Or maybe you think JFK "provoked" LHO.
 

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DallasEast;2566668 said:
All players must make themselves available for post-game interviews and at least once during the week for the press. In regards to Owens "shutting up", there are really only two guidelines which he should follow:
  • He shouldn't interject his feelings, etc., into his NFL-mandated interviews. Concentrate on play-by-play Q&As only, nothing more. If necessary, some of the questions posed to him during one of these interviews could be answered with a standard, "Next question" response, which he should be commended for enacting at times.
  • Everything else outside of what's required by the league for its players to interact with the media shouldn't be attempted, approached or considered (i.e. Deion Sanders one-on-one type interviews).
We can all hope that he will shut up, but we must all be realistic (myself included) what that effort would entail. These are two goals which are completely doable by anyone. However, this is Terrell Owens. <end comment>

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Just a question...

Where does TO "talking" rate , in your world, on the reasons the Cowboys went 9-7? Say out of your top 10 reasons, what was he?
 

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Clove;2566646 said:
Romo - needs to work on Accuracy, and his impulse to just fling it up, and for goodness sake, hold on to the ball when you're sacked.

TO - needs to stop whining about the play-calling and so forth. Just STHU and play ball, let Jerry fire the play-caller if he's not doing his job.
I'm certain Romo's injury affected his accuracy, but he's not being coached enough on the impulse throws and ball protection. Garrett and Wilson need to get on his butt about it and not let up, instead of just being awed that he can do things they never could. I could be way off base, but I imagine that's the case.

As for Owens, like others have said, whenever Romo's throwing balls to Witten in the offseason, Owens needs to be there too. All the WR's do. Roy definitely does.
 

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Been preaching that for quite a while now, Hos.

Get rid of TO and any of the other clubhouse lawyers. Decide to run the ball. Make up your mind to do it. Get across to the team that it's a mentality, and we WILL do it.

If we have to draft another tackle and guard to hedge against our starters not being able to do it, we will. If we have to get a battering ram of a fullback, we will.

I don't know about TO, but there's a good chance that we'll at least run it much more next year. Don't have time to check the stats now, but Wade said at his last PC that his teams have usually been among the league leaders in NOT turning the ball over. So I think all the INTs and fumbles sickened him. In fact, he singled them out as the single most important reason we underachieved. Like he pretty much said, the best way to limit INTs -- and keep Romo from getting hit and hurt so much -- is to run it more.

Maybe the best thing is that this style will work much better in December when the weather gets nasty. It's pretty much a proven fact.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2566681 said:
I don't know about TO, but there's a good chance that we'll at least run it much more next year.
That's something I look forward to, but will have to see to believe.
 

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bbgun;2566674 said:
Says TO's biggest shill. Or does that honor go to Jordan? Maybe you two can duke it out. Comparing TO to McNabb is a moral obscenity. Or maybe you think JFK "provoked" LHO.

I would gladly yield that honor to Jordan. But you know I am going to get mine too. ;) Someone has to counter these ridiculous ideas tosses about on this board. I'm just doing my part to save a few seals.
 

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5Countem5;2566676 said:
Just a question...

Where does TO "talking" rate , in your world, on the reasons the Cowboys went 9-7? Say out of your top 10 reasons, what was he?
I do not rank the Cowboys' woes on a scale.

I do acknowledge what I consider are all the problems which hampered the team's success every year equally, although I must profess to illustrating one or two above the rest at times.

Look no further than my signature line for one example. Hey! It doesn't have a picture of Terrell Owens! :rolleyes:

All teams have problems. I doubt that any team in history has ever eliminated all its problems, but I also believe that teams can improve their chances of working towards a common goal by eliminating as many of their problems as humanly possible.

Question answered.

Question posed.

Since you believe that NFL players are not affected by "distractions", do you also believe that NFL players can specify "distractions" which can affect a team's overall performance OUTSIDE lack of tackling, dropped passes, etc?
 

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DallasEast;2566693 said:
I do not rank the Cowboys' woes on a scale.

I do acknowledge what I consider are all the problems which hampered the team's success every year equally, although I must profess to illustrating one or two above the rest at times.

Look no further than my signature line for one example. Hey! It doesn't have a picture of Terrell Owens! :rolleyes:

All teams have problems. I doubt that any team in history has ever eliminated all its problems, but I also believe that teams can improve their chances of working towards a common goal by eliminating as many of their problems as humanly possible.

Question answered.

Question posed.

Since you believe that NFL players are not affected by "distractions", do you also believe that NFL players can specify "distractions" which can affect a team's overall performance OUTSIDE lack of tackling, dropped passes, etc?

Cop out...:lmao:


I don't understand your question... My point is that the players are not distracted by the things that you and so many others here dwell on. Well, I mean that they can deal with ESPN and other reporters WITHOUT it affecting their ability to play...period.

You want him gone as a sacrifice for a disappointing season. I don't want him gone as long as he can help.

One of us will be happy next year and one won't. Wonder which it will be?
 

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Hostile;2566181 said:
I would definitely get rid of Owens. Not because he is a bad player, he isn't. Not by any wild stretch of the imagination.

Not because the fans and media are calling for it. Screw that. Who cares? I don't.

Not because it could drive Garrett or Sherman away. I'm the biggest Garrett shill on the forum. I have a serious agenda for him to be the next Head Coach.

There are three reasons why I would do this. Felix Jones, Marion Barber, and Tashard Choice.

I love ball control Offense. I love to pound the other team to death. I love to see the Defense getting rest while the Offense moves the chains.

Roy can be a #1, Austin #2, Crayton the #3. Witten is the best weapon in the passing attack anyway and Bennett could be utilized more.

The money saved could shore up the O-line which is badly needed. I'd like to spend on Defense so that they can be the attacking disruptive force I want. 59 sacks in 2008 was great, but they gave up too many points, too much yardage and wore down.

The payoff would be less distractions. Sorry Owens fans, but denying he is a distraction is wearing blinders. Guy is one hell of a football player, but he is high maintenance and what this team needs is a new focus. Ball control is the answer.

We'd still have some home run hitters with Roy, Austin and especially Felix.

We might score fewer points, in fact we probably would. But I'd trade that for a more focused, less distracted team that wins more and I think we'd win more in 2009 with Owens gone and a new focus on Offense.

It's just my opinion and you're free to disagree.

Great Post Hos

Do you have a bug in my cell phone because I was expressing nearly an identical plan (with Owens) to a friend of mine last night and have not posted it here.

Here's my GM plan:

1) Hire 3-4 new coaches. New A/P will carry more weight with the players if the orders are barked out by some new voices.

2) New DC to work under Wade and or at least one new def postion coach.

3) New offensive assistant to work under Garrett. This is the trickey hire. Could be a no name guy with a nice track record or a name who didn't get an offer he liked. Maybe Shannahan or someone like him willing to come in as a consultant for a year.

4) BALL CONTROL TEAM ORIENTED OFFENSIVE APPROACH. I want this team to committ to running slightly more than it passes. In todays NFL that's rare. Even if its a 33 run/ 32 pass split. Best way to keep our most important player( ROMO) healthy.
I want all the skill players involved. Powers that be must have a come to Jesus meeting with all involved parties including Owens.
Owens, Witten, Williams, you're not geting 90 balls this year. Bennett, Austin, Crayton, you are getting more snaps and passes this year.

I want Jones, Barber and Choice invloved. Committ to running the ball no less than 30 times in every game. No RB gets less than 10 or more than 15 carries in a game.

As much as I want balance to keep everyone fresh we still need to be sure our two best game breaking threats can thiers.
I'm talking about Owens and Felix Jones. We need to have Owens in motion more and do more to free him up. He doesnt need to catch 7 or 8 balls, but he should get at least 4 each game and end up as our leading receiver.

Even though I want Choice and Barber involved, we need to utilize Jones. He should start and get 14-15 touches every game he's healthy. He's the best homerun threat we've had since Dorsett.

I see two key benefits if we distribute the ball this way. We will be more effective and our players will have less wear on them come December.
Just look at how banged up Witten was.

5)This team needs to practice harder. Very few teams tackle to the ground during the season. Anyone want to guess which team does it every year during the season more than any other team in the league? They get more injuries in practice because of it and the players fricken hate it! But year in and year out they tackle as well as anyone and come December their record is second to none. THE EAGLES!

It's been said over and over that football is about blocking and tackling. If this team committs to running the ball and tackling in practice the talent we have will shine.
 

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Why does having TO mean you can't have an effective run game? Are people saying TO held the hand of Garrett to force the OC into throwing him the ball? Then why was Witten getting as many catches as TO? Was Witten also holding the hand of Garrett to not run the ball and throw it to him?

Sorry... I don't buy it... One has to predicate that it is TO that runs this offense, not JG... JG was made Assiatnt head Coach and paid 3 million dollars to coach this offense. He had all the control in the world to run the ball. He chose not to... He didn't in the beginning of the season, even when the whole TO 'complaining' wasn't happening...
 

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BTW, if Shanahan was here, TO wouldn't be going anywhere... Shanahan wanted him just as bad as Jerry did... TO chose the Cowboys, because of the spotlight and it being the NFC East...
 

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khiladi;2566707 said:
Why does having TO mean you can't have an effective run game? Are people saying TO held the hand of Garrett to force the OC into throwing him the ball? Then why was Witten getting as many catches as TO? Was Witten also holding the hand of Garrett to not run the ball and throw it to him?

Sorry... I don't buy it... One has to predicate that it is TO that runs this offense, not JG... JG was made Assiatnt head Coach and paid 3 million dollars to coach this offense. He had all the control in the world to run the ball. He chose not to... He didn't in the beginning of the season, even when the whole TO 'complaining' wasn't happening...

Dallas threw the ball 16 more times than the year before when they went 13-3 and had the #3 Offense in the NFL and this team was behind a lot more.

I didn't hear any complaints them about throwing too much then.



It's execution people.
 

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percyhoward;2566687 said:
That's something I look forward to, but will have to see to believe.

I don't blame you, but the fact that the coach mentioned it pretty much immediately after the season ended makes me think that he feels pretty strongly about it. :)

And besides all the aspects about controlling turnovers and keeping the defense fresh, Wade's philosophy on offense has always been simply to get the ball in the hands of his best players. Well, in one year, we went from a very average RB corps of Julius and Barber to a very talented one of Felix, Choice, and Barber. And we added a very gifted young TE, too. That looks to me like a pretty massive shift in the balance of power talent-wise towards the RBs and TE. (And I mention the TE because I include shorter, controlled passes to the TE as much safer pass plays than the ones so deep down the field and still part of a power game.)

So IMO, it all fits together nicely.
 

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5Countem5;2566703 said:
Cop out...:lmao:
That's your bs talking, which isn't anything new.
5Countem5;2566703 said:
I don't understand your question... My point is that the players are not distracted by the things that you and so many others here dwell on. Well, I mean that they can deal with ESPN and other reporters WITHOUT it affecting their ability to play...period.
Now THAT'S a cop out. First, you don't understand. Then you avoid the question by repeating your longstanding stance that nothing is substantial except what you state is meaningful.
5Countem5;2566703 said:
You want him gone as a sacrifice for a disappointing season. I don't want him gone as long as he can help.
More bs.

There are forum archives. Use them.

I'm not a chameleon. I don't do 180's. I never wanted Owens here when he was in a 49er uniform. I never wanted him here when he was in an Eagles uniform, BUT you think that I wouldn't want him NOW in '09 when I didn't want him in '06, '07 or '08?

Bull****.

What I want from Owens is what I've always stated on this forum.

1. Shut the hell up.
2. Do his job which includes not dropping those passes which hit him in the hands.
5Countem5;2566703 said:
One of us will be happy next year and one won't. Wonder which it will be?
Happy?

Save. This. Reply.

If this team wins the Super Bowl next season, I will be overjoyed that the Dallas Cowboys franchise has captured its sixth Lombardi Trophy. However, it will not change my stance or any of my past, present and/or future statements about Terrell Owens one iota.

Remember.

Save. This. Reply.

If this team does not win the Super Bowl next season, I will be saddened that it did not achieve it's goal once again, but I will continue to be faithful to the franchise. However, it will not change my stance or any of my past, present and/or future statements about Terrell Owens one iota.

Clear?

Didn't think so.
 
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