Prisco Blasts Brooking Signing

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Don't worry, fellas. This is Pete Pricko, your friendly neighborhood Patriots homer. If the Patriots didn't do it, it's doomed for failure and defeat.
 

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theebs;2661492 said:
If your an old aging injury prone player and have the chance to go to

A. The best run franchise in the league.
Play for the best coach in the league.
Play on one of the better defenses in the league.
Play on a team with the best qb in the league.
Play in a quiet locker room that is focused on the task at hand at all times.


or

B. Play for a lame duck coach who cant control the locker room.
Play for a team coming off a 9-7 record in a tough division.
Play for a franchise that attracts tons of attention for all the wrong reasons.
Go to a team that has newman, scandrick and jenkins already.
play for a team that at the first sign of trouble the locker room is going to explode.



I could go on and on. If springs didnt have his father here I would think it would be a no brainer. Yes we do have a chance to win next year but no where near as good as new england and in new england football is the most important thing, which is kind of the personality that springs strikes me as having.

In Dallas that is simply not the case and it sucks that it isnt.


Joust with windmills much? Channeling that inner Colin Cowherd? Have a need to fawn over a team some regard as "greater" somehow?
 

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dwmyers;2661624 said:
Joust with windmills much? Channeling that inner Colin Cowherd? Have a need to fawn over a team some regard as "greater" somehow?


facts are facts.

Feel free to debate which is the better franchise.
 
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Prisco is absoulutely correct... The guy doesn't cover space well enough to play at a high level. It was a dumb signing especially when they had Burnett as a free agent.
 

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If you are going to complain at least this makes sense.

There is a very specific complaint here and to me that I can accept whether I disagree or not.

I don't know that Brooking is slow but I'd bet he isn't running any 4.5s.

If he is too slow then he is a 2 down player. I don't think we overpaid at all or that this was a bad signing by any means but at least this criticism is not asking us to be believe the moon is made of cheese.


But just to restate my own points here. You have to sign guys like this and Kitna to protect yourself prior to the draft. You can not expect young draftees to come in and start day 1.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;2661752 said:
Prisco is absoulutely correct... The guy doesn't cover space well enough to play at a high level. It was a dumb signing especially when they had Burnett as a free agent.

You know I bet you and Prisco are right, I'm sure Wade (who coached the guy for two yrs) and our scouts didnt even bother to look at any film on the guy or think how he might fit the defense, they probably just said "There's Keith Brooking!!!!!!, Lets get him!!!!"

:rolleyes:
 

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theebs;2661492 said:
If your an old aging injury prone player and have the chance to go to

A. The best run franchise in the league.
Play for the best coach in the league.
Play on one of the better defenses in the league.
Play on a team with the best qb in the league.
Play in a quiet locker room that is focused on the task at hand at all times.


or

B. Play for a lame duck coach who cant control the locker room.
Play for a team coming off a 9-7 record in a tough division.
Play for a franchise that attracts tons of attention for all the wrong reasons.
Go to a team that has newman, scandrick and jenkins already.
play for a team that at the first sign of trouble the locker room is going to explode.



I could go on and on. If springs didnt have his father here I would think it would be a no brainer. Yes we do have a chance to win next year but no where near as good as new england and in new england football is the most important thing, which is kind of the personality that springs strikes me as having.

In Dallas that is simply not the case and it sucks that it isnt.

The Pats should be appealing to any player provided dollars are near even.

However....

Texas and Dallas are ALL about the Cowboys. We don't care about the Red Sox or Yankees and we don't care about the Celtics or Knicks. Recall what Parcells said? This is the "big stage".

Also note that in Dallas, Texas you do not pay state income taxes. You also have one of the best cost of living rations in the United States. Many NFL players(and other sports) retire here. You also happen to be from here. And it isn't 15 below zero all winter with crazy wind.

Plus the Cowboys have loyalty. They all get jobs after football seemingly.

Zach Thomas made the same decision last year... Dallas or New England. He chose Dallas. Why? Probably because he was from Texas.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;2661752 said:
Prisco is absoulutely correct... The guy doesn't cover space well enough to play at a high level. It was a dumb signing especially when they had Burnett as a free agent.

Not gonna argue the first point because its just opinion.

But the second part makes no sense....

Yes, Burnett is a free agent.
So what?

Its not like Burnett was gonna sign a deal this cheap.
And even if he did it's not like we could count on him to play 3 downs all year at ILB when he hasn't been able to stay healthy playing part time.

This signing doesn't preclude us from signing or drafting another ILB at all.

It was a cheap, solid pro.
 

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The Brooking signing is harmless at worst and gives us a solid run stopper and example-setter in the locker room at best.

Moreover, Zach Thomas was not bad last year for us and Prisco is showing how full of **** he is by trying to present this reasoning.
 

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When it's the Patriots signing old vets who have lost a step to these modest contracts... it's pure genius.
 

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If Belichick would have signed him, he would have gone off about how Belichick does such a great job at getting extra miles out of aging linebackers.

In fact, it was Belichick that really wanted Zach last year.
 

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Apparently Prisco has forgotten the days of Barron Wortham and Joe Bowden.
 

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tunahelper;2661416 said:
Falcons 4-3 requires a lot more coverage ability on there LB's. Brooking was playing out of place at SOLB & has lost a step I am told by longtime Falcon fans, but he can still run well enough and play inside LB, the team wanted to stay younger there.

Bingo. And he says he can still play which I actually believe. He was upset he wasn't making big plays but he had a good year o/w even playing out of position.

theebs;2661463 said:
...snip.... Brooking is here because this is probably the only place where he is going to get to start and play a bunch of snaps. I dont think that is true of anywhere else for him.

I highly doubt that he wouldn't play in the league at all next year as a starter. He's a good Will. He's just not fast enough or big enough to play outside. You have to have long arms and/or big time speed to rush OTs in this league.
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and again, my talking about new england was in reference to Springs. So please get a clue.

Actually you said 10 players out of 10 would go to NE over someplace like Dallas, didn't you?

Apollo Creed;2661479 said:
Falcons tried to create the perception they were letting him walk to drive down the interest, then tried to slide back in and sign him. Very solid move for us, decent price, 13 years of experience, and just came off a nice playoff run.

This is just insurance, I still expect us to draft LB early in the draft - but Brooking will make that transition a lot easier, and even at his age, I'm certain he's more durable than KB.

Another Bingo. Also Brooking is faster than Zach and bigger.

Yakuza Rich;2661480 said:
Zach was hardly much of a problem last year. And in the second half of the season he was fine once the D-Line started to do their job (sans Ratliff who was always doing his job). And saying Zach looked slow is ridiculous. And how exactly is Dallas supposed to get quicker at the positiion? Get an aging Ray Lewis? (who I would like to have, but more for leadership reasons)

You're best off getting a quality, veteran like Brooking who has played for Wade and then drafting a young player to learn.




YAKUZA

I think he was a half step too slow too often and he did get tied up by interior lineman too often as well. Part of the latter is the DL not covering the OL. I agree this is a good move. You aren't going to get a better Will at that price. He'll be at least as good as Zach.

Apollo Creed;2661495 said:
Bradie managed to get freed up more once the season went on, I attribute that to Wade taking over and guys getting comfortable in the scheme. It just seemed to me like Zach was a tad slow and undersized, and our guys weren't giving him much help on that side.

I definitely see the combo of Brooking/Draft Choice to be a very solid combination next year.

Bingo again.

irvin4evs;2661843 said:
The Brooking signing is harmless at worst and gives us a solid run stopper and example-setter in the locker room at best.

Moreover, Zach Thomas was not bad last year for us and Prisco is showing how full of **** he is by trying to present this reasoning.

Zach wasn't great but he wasn't a huge weak link. He clearly isn't the player we'd like at WILB in Wade's scheme though.
 

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Jed_70;2661415 said:
Brookings is depth. Nothing wrong with adding quality depth, especially when Bobby Carpenter's your only other option.

Case.
Point.
 

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you tube vid of brooking posted by dc fanatic on another site

http://sportsmediablog.***BANNED-URL***/archives/2009/03/keith-brookings-lives-by-this.html
 

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atlanta let him go because they couldn't agree on contract terms. not because he's slow. they wanted to resign him. he's led them in tackles since 01.
 

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Originally Posted by theebs
...snip.... Brooking is here because this is probably the only place where he is going to get to start and play a bunch of snaps. I dont think that is true of anywhere else for him.

I highly doubt that he wouldn't play in the league at all next year as a starter. He's a good Will. He's just not fast enough or big enough to play outside. You have to have long arms and/or big time speed to rush OTs in this league.
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and again, my talking about new england was in reference to Springs. So please get a clue.

Actually you said 10 players out of 10 would go to NE over someplace like Dallas, didn't you?

no jobber I actually was only referring to springs and his situation. I said right out, besides his father being here I would think new england would be a perfect fit.



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